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Inside Knowledge About Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Could Lead To World-Changing Technology
earthmysterynews ^ | October 11, 2017 | huffpo

Posted on 10/11/2017 8:57:37 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Tom DeLonge...spent many years studying UFOs, and essentially left his previous lucrative career to devote himself to this pursuit, using his own personal income and resources to set up an entertainment company called To The Stars (TTS). It had the goal of disseminating information about UFOs, consciousness, the paranormal and other unexplained mysteries through artistic pursuits such as fiction and non-fiction books, feature films, and television productions.

Most importantly, while doing so, Tom was gradually able to establish relationships with flag officers and other highly placed insiders in the aerospace industry, intelligence, the Department of Defense and NASA. These independent sources provided him with information about the UFO phenomenon and worked with him to develop a plan for the incremental release of this information through TTS, which would be particularly geared towards reaching younger audiences.

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Then, in late 2016, Wikileaks published a number of Tom’s emails to John Podesta, which revealed the names of some of these sources. Among his advisors were two generals: one was a commander of the U.S. Air Force’s research laboratory at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and responsible for managing the Air Force’s $2.2 billion science and technology program; the other was the Special Assistant to the Commander of Air Force Space Command at Peterson Air Force Base. As devastating as this was to some, it established for those who doubted him that Tom was indeed telling the truth about his high level contacts.

Tom’s plans for TTS were delayed at this point, but he persevered. Subsequent delays have been out of his control, but everyone involved agrees with the necessity for a gradual release of information.

“The fact is, we might not necessarily be alone,” Luis Elizondo says. “Now is the time to move forward and try to answer some of life’s deepest mysteries.”

(Excerpt) Read more at earthmysterynews.com ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science; UFO's
KEYWORDS: aatip; alaska; astronomy; bigelowaerospace; danielinouye; davidfravor; harryreid; hawai; hawaii; huffingtonpost; huffpo; jimslaight; johnpodesta; luiselizondo; nevada; podesta; robertbigelow; science; tedstevens; tomdelonge; ufos; wikileaks
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To: JockoManning

Thanks!


81 posted on 10/13/2017 12:41:15 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: Rockingham
The UFO/ET subject is fascinating but offers little in the way of solid evidence.

The way I think about these issues is to imagine an ant walking around the streets of Chicago.

The ant does not have the mental capacity to comprehend the purpose of Chicago or its inhabitants. All of the daily drama we take for granted is a total mystery to the ant.

The point is that there are limits to our understanding based on limits to our intelligence and sensory and instrumentation capacity.

It is a major error of many humans with a variety of beliefs and traditions to claim certainty that we are the highest pinnacle of creation, the most intelligent species that there is.

Our "evidence" may be no more compelling that the ant's "evidence" about what is happening in Chicago.

The UFO phenomenon (and its variations) are what is called a "clue" that we are like the ants in Chicago--what we don't know is greater than what we do know.

It is not necessary to accept or reject strange ideas that are "not supported by evidence". Just hear them, file them away, and don't be too quick to attack those who claim they have witnessed "crazy" events or beings.

They may have gotten a momentary glimpse and a tiny bit of insight about what is happening in the cosmic Chicago.
82 posted on 10/13/2017 1:26:23 AM PDT by cgbg (Hidden behind the social justice warrior mask is corruption and sexual deviance.)
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To: cgbg
Well-reasoned and well-stated. It occurred to me recently that, in addition to the certainty of death and taxes, there is at least one other thing that is more or less universally true: the world is not entirely as we think it is. No matter how certain one may be in one's thinking, smugness is folly because being wrong from time to time, even on big things, is part of the human condition.

For me, there are a handful of UFO cases that are solid enough on the facts as to suggest that at least some UFOs are real objects likely of extraterrestrial origin. Yet I am not at all certain of that and hope for more and better information.

83 posted on 10/13/2017 3:30:04 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: SunkenCiv

i still remember having the begeezus scared out of me as a tyke when I first watched the “day of the triffids”, but not too many years later i laughed at “salt water” being the big solution to killing them. Now, using “salt water” as a killing solution is a meme equivalent to witches melting in the rain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_of_the_Triffids_%28film%29


84 posted on 10/13/2017 9:03:46 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: cgbg
And he's the only one who's seen 'em, what a surprise. Even the conspiracy website that 'investigated' his claims and managed to talk to three of the other servicemen he mentions in the book don't verify his observations. Where they saw a wild horse out on the range, he saw four tall white aliens walking really close together.

85 posted on 10/13/2017 10:48:02 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: catnipman
I've actually never seen that one, remember when it was out, that's about it. Sci-fi is part of the horror genre (aliens instead of monsters, technology or maybe telepathic or empathic 'powers' instead of magic, etc), and while I sometimes enjoy science fiction, horror is just dopey. :^) Reading your post, I do wonder if the salt water thing was an homage (or send-up) when it was used in the movie "Alien Nation".

86 posted on 10/13/2017 10:55:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: JockoManning
Even though Sitchin was full of it, I'd rather have one of his devotees for a neighbor I see once in a while, than to have some damned single party state / zero tolerance / straight ticket voting / signs in the yard Demagogic Party nitwit in that house. :^)

87 posted on 10/13/2017 10:57:36 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And the Globe is Warming. Don’t doubt that the Reptilians want it warmer so they can do more feeding and breeding. (and what makes your think GEICO is a company run by terrestrials?)


88 posted on 10/13/2017 11:01:43 AM PDT by VietVet876
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To: Rockingham
That EM drive took (and still takes) physicists by surprise, and its design must be terribly frustrating, because it doesn't leave a way back out to some kind of acceptable explanation, outside of a purely QM model. :^) It's an absurd situation, not least because there appears to be no plan to test it in space. A test bed should be orbited, pronto! :^) Gwynne Shotwell of SpaceX stated not long ago that they're doing work on nuclear propulsion, a system that has never shown practical feasibility and was abandoned in the 1970s (it can't get itself off the ground, it only works in space). Seems like EM drives (radio frequency resonant cavity thrusters) would be cheaper and better and easier to recycle after each use, but hey, the mighty Elon has spoken, the smoke has gone up on each side of his face and everything. :^D

89 posted on 10/13/2017 11:07:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

“horror is just dopey”

oh, “Day of the Triffids” was a VERY dopey movie, simply awful, but back in the day, it looked real-enough to 10 year old kids who didn’t know any better.

and yes, since then salt water has been used frequently as an homage or send-up.


90 posted on 10/13/2017 11:17:04 AM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SunkenCiv
For sure.

There are air-heads and then there are thoroughly lobotomized air-heads--some of which can be quite obnoxious to dangerous.

91 posted on 10/13/2017 11:19:23 AM PDT by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: SunkenCiv

Except that the oligarchy still seems to be trying somewhat to squelch such advances from reaching very public venues and uses.


92 posted on 10/13/2017 11:20:51 AM PDT by JockoManning (to cpy/paste if want: http://preview.tinyurl.com/Haiku-For-The-End-Times)
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To: catnipman

The book was really good.


93 posted on 10/13/2017 11:22:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Don't mistake your dorm political discussions with the desires of the nation)
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To: AppyPappy

“The book was really good.”

good to know. I’ll get it from my library; apparently it’s volume one of a trilogy.


94 posted on 10/13/2017 4:01:14 PM PDT by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: SunkenCiv
The Chinese claim to have tested an EM Drive in space, there are rumors to the effect that the US military did the same on an X-37B flight, and academic and private industry flight tests are said to be in the planning stage.

The pace of the space testing effort by the academic physics community though may seem leisurely, but this is likely because academic physicists would want not incremental but definitive results. That requires building one or more fully instrumented and robust EM Drive models that are thoroughly ground tested in order to eliminate all possible technical faults, measurement errors, and alternative explanations for any thrust that might be observed in space.

Ideally, a space flight test also ought to resolve which theoretical physics explanation for EM Drive thrust is true and to provide guidance for how the design might be improved. As it is, there is no consensus as to how the EM Drive might work. The two best explanations in my layman's view are Unruh radiation or that the de Broglie-Bohm pilot wave theory of quantum mechanics is true. If so, the EM Drive would revolutionize modern physics.

In any event, if the EM Drive works, whomever first explains and proves up the physics can expect that their future will include an early morning call from the Nobel Committee in Stockholm.

95 posted on 10/14/2017 9:55:10 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham

Even if they can’t explain it, those who build a successful design and launch a mission to, say, Alpha/Beta or Proxima Centauri, or Barnard’s Star (or even a proof of concept mission to one of the outer planets and back) will look pretty smart. Right now, the Chinese aren’t looking too good, with a recent major launch failure, and their space station falling down.

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96 posted on 10/15/2017 1:57:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: VietVet876

I admit it, that actually makes some sense... those ads, they’re everywhere... vaccinating us against fear... oh, he’s such a cute little gecko...


97 posted on 10/15/2017 2:05:54 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: SunkenCiv

Technology and discovery was going gangbusters through the 1930s. Most research was privately funded then. WWII happened and the bomb changed everything.

Since the US Government became the primary patron of scientific discovery, significant progress in physics in particular has been relatively stalled.

The notable exceptions were proving Einstein’s theory on the existence of gravity waves and the verification of the Higgs boson.

There is, today, one of the most protected facilities in the USG that houses Tesla’s ‘recovered’ documents in New Mexico. Extremely highly controlled access.

Einstein was once asked, “What is it like to be the most intelligent man in the world?”

His reply, “I don’t know, you’ll have to ask Nikola Tesla.”

Einstein even believed Heisenberg was more intelligent. His math pretty much saved quantum theory.

As for the speed of light being a limit, what we do know is that it works for building bombs and making nuclear power plants.

What may change is that a new branch of physics springs up along the lines of ‘dimensional physics’. The physics of spacetime and its properties.

I’ve never felt good about the notion of ‘dark matter’ to explain where all the missing matter in the Universe may be. I think we don’t know enough about spacetime and its properties - whether and how it can be folded, etc.

I know this - Tesla had likely solved the world energy problem before his money guy pulled the plug on him.

He was harvesting electrical energy from ‘the air’ and transmitting it either over the air or through the ground to a receiving station. He hinted that this electricity was only the tip of the sundae - that there was vastly more energy in ‘empty air’ than anybody could imagine.

It’s fun to think about, but entrenched interests and government’s role as an erector of barriers into new markets will keep any of this from our generation and the millenial generation.

The millenials are shaping up to be a pretty good generation. They are calling BS on the Boomers (aka ‘The Locust Generation), and the acquiescent X’ers that followed them.


98 posted on 10/16/2017 8:36:19 AM PDT by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: RinaseaofDs
The Higgs (said to be found, but its characteristics had to be changed to make that claim) and solar neutrinos (ditto), and dark matter are kludges. So, for that matter, is the completely undetected and unattested Oort Cloud. Tesla's talk to the engineers, where he spoke of "the very wheelwork of nature" was interesting, but if he'd known how to get there, he'd have gotten there.
Ernest Lawrence, a pure experimentalist... said, "Don't you worry about it -- the theorists will find a way to make them all the same." -- Alvarez by Luis Alvarez (page 184)

99 posted on 10/16/2017 12:58:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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To: BenLurkin; bert; Tennessee Nana
Realizing that the denial game is no longer viable, the CIA is seeking to take over the topic in order to control the public perceptions.

To anyone with even moderate understanding of how such propaganda memes are sewn, the January 22nd, 2018 CTCAM with George Knapp, A. Rojas, and 'surprise call in' person, Chris Melon, nails it.

The meme we will be subject to going forward is that conspiracies and looking back at the lies, manipulation, and the trillions of dollars spent in pursuing the technologies should now be set aside and focus on 'collecting more data for analysis'. How did that intro to the Outer Limits TV show start ... No need to adjust... we control?

100 posted on 01/24/2018 12:25:33 PM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensational perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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