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Presidents love to come out and say we're going to Mars. Bush was going to take us to Mars. President Trump is taking us to Mars. Hillary was going to take us to Mars. I'm sure they would all love to be at the helm when we finally get to Mars, but as of yet, no Mars. President Kennedy took "Great America" to the Moon, but I wouldn't place good money on "Not Great so Much America" Getting off the planet again any time soon.

Call me cynical.

1 posted on 05/07/2017 5:13:22 AM PDT by brucedickinson
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Stephen Hawking has a new message for humanity: Get off Earth within the next 100 years or perish. In order to survive as a species, humans must colonize other planets.

Hogwash.

2 posted on 05/07/2017 5:15:47 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("We tend to retreat into cheap moralizing when economic realities become uncomfortable.")
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Unless those guys at the bottom are our current Astronauts i have NO IDEA what you’re trying to convey.

Show four of the nastiest gang members the year we went to the moon. We still got there.

Your negativeness is a constant through your posts and you need to get rid of that :)

Smile sometimes!


6 posted on 05/07/2017 5:17:49 AM PDT by dp0622 (IThe only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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Chris Hadfield performs "Space Oddity" aboard the ISS

David Bowie himself was extremely impressed.

9 posted on 05/07/2017 5:29:36 AM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (I don't give a damn about your feelings. Try to impress me with your convictions.)
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Get off Earth within the next 100 years or perish.

The Chicken Little Crowd weighs in.

The only thing that could destroy life as we know it is government.

ML/NJ

17 posted on 05/07/2017 5:38:44 AM PDT by ml/nj
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No matter what the former Canadian astronaut’s reasons are - I didn’t even read what they are - Mars should not be our next major off world exploration by living humans - robotic rovers, yes, humans no.

Our next major off world exploration by living humans should be a moon base.

It can be like a “boot camp” for how best to make a “human habitat” camp, off world, and how to make it work. There is all sorts of things that can get “field tested” on the moon.

Meanwhile, by continuing to use robotic rovers on mars we can add to what knowledge of Mars we have, which will make for better exploration of Mars by living humans when we are ready.

We can also begin building a space platform. It would fist be used as a travelers station for the trips back and forth to & from the moon. Reusable space vehicles for going back and forth to and from the moon would be docked there. Humans going to the moon would only need vehicles to get them to the space platform, not vehicles that would take them all the way to them moon. They would have their own “shuttle craft” for the moon landing & returning to the orbiting vehicle that took them to the moon; when it was time to return to the space platform orbiting earth. From the platform, they would take another kind of “shuttle” to return to earth.

It would be the “boot camp” for those things a space platform can do for us too.

Together the moon base experience and and space platform experience will prepare us for major explorations of Mars by living humans.

At some point it might be understood to work best constructing in earth orbit - in modules that get put together - the long range space vehicles, and as reusable vehicles. The heavy-lifting from earth’s surface (energy resource wise) would only be done in stages building the vehicles, and then not again. Leaving high earth orbit has a lower energy requirement, and doing so leaves a payload ability for the fuel-energy for the long distance travel.

We learn to walk before we learn to run.


19 posted on 05/07/2017 5:56:57 AM PDT by Wuli
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There was a professor Frank Brown from Northwestern University who during the 1970’s wanted to send potatoes into space. He had previously observed that potatoes have metabolic rates that were in sync with the moon. If you moved potatoes from the east coast to the west coast those potatoes would retain the metabolic cycle for their old location and only gradually change to the new. Changes in latitude; changes in attitude.

It was his speculation that Humans were similarly in sync with the sun and moon and moving out of range of the moon may have profoundly negative effects on our bodies. Humans quite possibly will wither and die if moved too far from our homes. Dr. Hawking’s conclusions may be based on incomplete data...


20 posted on 05/07/2017 6:00:10 AM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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There seems to be no shortage of AstroNuts ready to go....


21 posted on 05/07/2017 6:08:23 AM PDT by Paladin2 (No spelchk nor wrong word auto substition mobile devices. Please be intelligent and deal with it....)
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But Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield has previously said that humans just aren't ready to live on other worlds.

Hell! We're not ready to live on this one if the reports are correct.

22 posted on 05/07/2017 6:09:36 AM PDT by Don Corleone (.leave the gun, take the canolis, take it to the mattress.)
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I suggest you watch “The Expanse” on Netflix. Going to Mars isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.


25 posted on 05/07/2017 6:15:30 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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But Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield has previously said that humans just aren’t ready to live on other worlds.

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I saw a Youtube of Hatfield giving a TED talk. Something isn’t right about him. He’s smart, but he looks mean, and he gave me that impression during the talk, too.


31 posted on 05/07/2017 6:23:53 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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The people who master space travel will be the people our grandkids work for. I would like it to be our grandkids who master it.

And in that vein, I’d like to see a bit more urgency about space exploration. I thought when we landed on the moon that we’d be on Mars thirty years later; as it turns out we can’t even get back to the moon. There just isn’t much interest. When they killed the manned space program, it was because they thought we could better spend that money helping the poor. Five decades later we still have lots of poor, but no men beyond a hundred miles from the surface, and we have to pay the Russians even to get there.


42 posted on 05/07/2017 6:55:26 AM PDT by marron
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Why would a Canadian astronaut’s opinion matter? I don’t think that Canada has ever built a rocket capable of going beyond the upper atmosphere of earth. They hitch rides on other rockets. Not that that’s a bad thing but it’s kind of like asking some guy who’s rode a taxi a couple if times what kind of developments are coming up for next years taxicabs. I would, however, value his opinion on hockey. For future rocketry plans, I’ll ask a rocket scientist.


58 posted on 05/07/2017 7:41:16 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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Most Idiots think Mars is Hollywood’s 5 minutes away


60 posted on 05/07/2017 7:48:13 AM PDT by butlerweave
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Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield has previously said that humans just aren't ready to live on other worlds.

Matt Damon proved it. But hey, let's keep sending Hollyweirdos there till we get it right. Please.

62 posted on 05/07/2017 7:57:34 AM PDT by Kudsman ( Anyone to the Right of Stalin is a Far Right Wing candidate to the Far Left Wing Media.)
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72 posted on 05/07/2017 10:30:29 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a Simple Manner for a Happy Life :o)
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And in 1960 we weren’t ready for the moon. There’s only one way to get ready: have a goal.


74 posted on 05/07/2017 11:01:40 AM PDT by discostu (Stand up and be counted, for what you are about to receive.)
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We don’t even have the technology for the necessary radiation shielding. We are not going anywhere if we cannot protect from radiation caused cancer and genetic mutation of our sexual organs.


77 posted on 05/07/2017 1:06:38 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The Left has a mental illness: A totalitarian psyche.)
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President Kennedy took "Great America" to the Moon,

That would have been Nixon.

Kennedy was dead as a door nail by the time we got to the moon.

83 posted on 05/07/2017 1:35:28 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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We weren’t ready for the moon when it was announced. Not even close.


86 posted on 05/07/2017 2:10:52 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media and Shariah Socialism.)
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