Posted on 05/07/2017 5:13:22 AM PDT by brucedickinson
In an upcoming BBC program, Stephen Hawking has a new message for humanity: Get off Earth within the next 100 years or perish. In order to survive as a species, humans must colonize other planets.
But Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield has previously said that humans just aren't ready to live on other worlds. In 2015, he visited Business Insider to discuss his thoughts on where humans will go next and why.
Hadfield became a mainstream figure thanks to his YouTube videos from space and wide social media presence. Now retired, Hadfield is the best-selling author of "An Astronaut's Guide to Life on Earth."
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There seems to be no shortage of AstroNuts ready to go....
Hell! We're not ready to live on this one if the reports are correct.
Oh no, certainly. There is talk these days of all sorts of exoplanets, like Gliese 581-C. Some of these planets orbit blue stars, or red stars or all manner of star that is different from ours. Folks that live on Earth, in Alaska for example, literally go crazy from periods of long darkness. Just the amount of light can drive us loopy. I know from experience that you can take a houseplant that is thriving in a particular area, and move it two feet to the left and it will wither and die. You never know. That being said, of course we could adapt and build shelters and bring light and such with us, but yes, finding Earth equivalents is going to be rare if not impossible and we will have to make do. Some, I’m sure, will even speak of gene-altering but then again, this is science fiction and we can’t even get back to the moon.
Damn straight.
I suggest you watch “The Expanse” on Netflix. Going to Mars isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.
Hawking is voicing the Dark Forest Theory which most have never heard mentioned.
It goes something like this: Where is everybody? With trillions of suns and billions of planets, where are all the civilizations?
Explanations range from there are none (but us) to everyone else does not use radio (so we cannot hear them).
The Dark Forest Theory goes like this:
You seem alone are in a dark forest, what do you do?
Cry for help and hope that some friendly person comes to your aid?
Do you remain silent because there are dangerous creatures that may hear your call and come to feed?
How do you know of the two possibilities which will be true?
So every one remains quiet less someone comes hunting. Being on more than one world, in more than one solar system increases the odds of remaining undiscovered by hunters.
That is all he is saying.
I tend to agree with keeping things a bit closer to home than wandering to Mars for what? The real reason should be to find other planets like ours, but Astronomers seem to feel anything within reach is a dead planet, so what is to be accomplished by going outside our short range area of near space and moon?
Eye-talians are smarter than the rest of Europe?
What about following the flow of water towards larger bodies of water unless you are in a dwarf tree forest?
But Canadian astronaut Chris Hadfield has previously said that humans just aren’t ready to live on other worlds.
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I saw a Youtube of Hatfield giving a TED talk. Something isn’t right about him. He’s smart, but he looks mean, and he gave me that impression during the talk, too.
I agree “The Expanse” is a great show.
Humanity’s problems just stay the same over a wider area.
Of course I am one of those “conspiracy theorists” who believes the human race is currently under a quarantine.
We do not play well with others—and have been confined to our dusty playground until we shows signs of adult-hood.
(To be more precise, we have allowed the sociopaths in our midst, the most immoral one tenth of 1% of the population, to rise to positions of power in every major political, business, media, religious, non-profit institution on the planet.)
I was a lead designer on several projects funded by NASA. One of my friends bought the farm that was owned by Neil Armstrong in the past. We took a long walk down by the creek. Walking in Neil’s footprints, lol. I imagine how many times he looked up at the moon from there. I also became a 99’er, jobless and hopeless. I saw where you were going with those pictures. There is an agenda going on. I’ve been a flea market vendor in the past, not much escapes your eye there watching the changing demographics and this was a decade ago. This article should really piss you off. A Hispanic chamber of commerce in Ohio??? If the Hispanic running it made these statements as a white person he would be called a racist and run out of town. It also gives you and insight into the local employers mindset. http://www.journal-news.com/business/chamber-leaders-employers-struggling-find-skilled-labor/f6VjRINxhT3YraJ9SLUT4L/
“so what is to be accomplished by going outside our short range area of near space and moon?”
The satisfying of the human thirst for knowledge, and sometimes knowledge for which we don’t, at the time, have a practical reason for.
Your question could be asked - why have all the long range telescopes we have on earth; very little practical application has been seen from our knowledge gained with them.
So, do you understand why humans will not rest with just was is practical, or with merely was has a practical application.
And, besides, in the search for “impractical” knowledge we have developed technology and products that floated into the practical sphere with great consequences sometimes.
Another thing is that, if we did colonize space, we would probably split into another species before long. It is also possible that every planet we colonize would have a different variant of the human specifies. You would definitely see humans evolve for space travel.
And that is from the biological perspective. We could also self-evolve by fusing with machines. Arthur C. Clarke (who was a tremendous visionary) also thought that eventually we would become the equivalent of cyborg spaceships.
Professor Hawking is an amazing Scientist and a Genius of his generation but when he endorsed the PLO against Israel, he lost all of my respect...
Idiocracy might be 100 years away.
President Camacho will be here monday fg sooner than that.
Then we are brothers, my friend.
I think there may have been a lot of intelligent civilizations in the universe, maybe in the millions. But the question is do they exist close enough in both time and space to discover each other? If an advanced civilization had come looking for intelligence on Earth as little as 10K years ago, it would have found none (except for some cave dwellers making paintings and using hunting tools). And 10K years is nothing in the life of the universe.
Based on the dynamics I see here on Earth, I think it is likely that a species will reach technological greatness and then devolve back into sub-intelligence. This could be caused by war. It could be as simple as losing the moral framework that made their intellect possible. In all things with a biological basis, I think the genes contain both the seeds of potential greatness and self-destruction.
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