The only way Ryan might have let Trump down was that Ryan could not deliver the votes. But make no mistake, Trump was fully on board with Ryancare and must accept equal credit or blame for the humiliation.
Posted on 04/25/2017 2:18:38 AM PDT by cba123
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump stepped back Monday from demanding a down payment for his border wall in must-past spending legislation, potentially removing a major obstacle to a bipartisan deal just days ahead of a government shutdown deadline.
Trump told a gathering of around 20 conservative media reporters Monday evening that he would be willing to return to the wall funding issue in September, according to two people who were in the room. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss the get-together, which was not originally intended to be on the record.
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The only way Ryan might have let Trump down was that Ryan could not deliver the votes. But make no mistake, Trump was fully on board with Ryancare and must accept equal credit or blame for the humiliation.
IF this story is correct.............Trump said he would be willing to address in September. What’s the big deal?
Trump, if you do this, you could lose your entire support base.
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If he caves to the filthy, anti-American RATS on the wall, HE CAN KISS MY ASS GOODBYE!
Sessions already said they have the money, or enough to start, elsewhere.
I think if Congress diesn’t do new funding Trump can creatively reassign the old authorized money that wasn’t spent. But I’m not sure.
They already are, and know it.
so you’d rather win this battle (start the wall) but risk losing the war? (FULL wall/security at the border, maybe even a northern border or increased airport/all ports of entry security upgrades to stop illegals)?
I’d rather construction stared Jan 22, 2017, but I’d also rather we get wall construction happening within the year than not at all.
Does China sell us lumber?
Did you read the article. It says what trey yingst posted. Stop trying to claim Yingst didnt say Sept.
China was the big enemy during the campaign. Any taxes imposed on them like the retroactive one just placed on canada
Example?
It’s great that Trump keeps signing executive orders, but this Congress has literally produced nothing in 3 months.
Trump has Romney running the RNC, Ryan pushing his agenda in the House, and McConnell in the Senate. This why we can’t get anything done.
Consider this, if the Dems were in similar situation feds would already be knocking on our doors to collect AR15s and our federal tax withholding tables would be 10% higher.
I would bring these McConnell Ryan and Romney into the White House tell them you have 60 days to produce wins on x, y, and z or I’ll find the best path to remove you from your role.
You are attempting to rewrite history.
The piublic did not even see the Ryan bill. Thats the forst thing that you have to get straight.
Secondly the bill was rumored to actually hand over the general selling and marketing of health care to the Unsurance Companies who are Ryan’s primary financial contributors.On the ground the insurance companies have successfully convinced the public that they need to suffer $6000.00 deductables, and the public has desperately swallowed it.The Insurance Companies want this to continue , giving them massive profits while screwing the People.
Thats the problem with the Ryan bill and the primary reason the bill would not pass the Freedom Caucus. If Trump is going to drain the swamp, he needs to face the issue of Ryan squarely, open up the States to competition among insurance companies, and insure that there is not the price gouging that is now planned.
It has noting to do with wanting to keep Obama care initiatives or ideology , that can be done with reasonable planning and taxation changes.
Ryan wants his corporate supporters to have a huge payday. Its that simple.And Ryan tried to hoodwink the People to get there, as well as President Trump. That’s why Ryan has to go. The old days are over when someone like Ryan can milk everyone so his corporate supporters and lobbyists can make massive profits.That’s why Ryan could not get the votes, when he had formerly told Trump that he had the votes.President Trumps base would not accept such a huge gouge of the People.
Ryan has proven that he places the intersts of his personal fundraising and corporate lobbyists before the health of the
People. He has to go.He does not understand that the old RINO gouge/earmark days are now over.Finito. Kaput.
Good Bye Ryan.
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Paul Ryan married into money. His wife’s family are Democrats, In all truth, so is Ryan , although he has attempted to disguise the fact.He actually supported Obama’s sell out on the Iran Deal.We need a genuinely Republican Speaker.
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The Big Money Behind Paul Ryan’s Political Career
n his rise from the House’s second-youngest member to the 2012 presidential ticket, Paul Ryan has relied on the finance and insurance industries, as well as his Wisconsin background, to become a rainmaker who should provide the Romney campaign with a valuable fundraising asset.
Since his first re-election campaign in 2000, the biggest funders of Ryan’s political career have been financial firms, insurance companies, and wealthy Wisconsin companies and individuals, which have helped him amass a $4.5 million war chest, the largest in the House.
The money behind Ryan’s political career is best encapsulated by his biggest source of cash: Northwestern Mutual. As a Milwaukee-based insurance company that also offers financial services, it is all of Ryan’s biggest political backers rolled into one. The company and its employees have given him nearly $90,000 over the years, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.
But before he became the country’s leading advocate for privatizing Social Security and shrinking Medicare (and therefore a favorite of insurance companies), Ryan relied on homegrown support. Because of his family’s construction business, Ryan Inc., construction groups were Ryan’s primary financial backers in the beginning, the largest being the National Association of Home Builders and the Carpenters and Joiners Union, each of whom have given more than $50,000 over his career, according to CRP.
Midwestern groups such as the National Beer Wholesalers Association, based in Milwaukee, and companies based out of nearby Chicago, such as Abbot Laboratories and Bank One, also backed him early on.
As he ascended the ranks, his construction backers gave way to large financial groups such as Credit Suisse Group, National Association of Insurance and Financial Advisers, and the American Bankers Association. After becoming the top Republican on the powerful Budget Committee in 2007, when Ryan’s budget plans became more widely known, insurance and healthcare groups became a substantial new source of political cash. Thus far in the 2012 cycle, all but eight of Ryan’s 20 biggest backers are in the financial, insurance, or health sectors, CRP data shows. Most are financial groups like Elliott Management, the hedge fund that’s also a big giver to Romney’s campaign. Other familiar companies like Goldman Sachs and UBS are also big contributors to Ryan, who frequently criticizes the Dodd-Frank Act that regulates Wall Street and voted for the TARP bill that bailed out Wall Street banks.
Ryan brings in cash from across the country, and thus far in the 2012 cycle, nearly 70 percent of his contributions have come from outside Wisconsin. Chicago and Milwaukee are his most lucrative areas, but he’s also raked it in from surprising areas like Florida, which is actually his third-most generous state. This widespread appeal could help the Romney ticket, which raised $3.5 million after announcing Ryan would be its veep, see a permanent bump in fundraising despite both men attracting money from many of the same places.
The vice presidential nominee’s campaign finance record is not without some minor controversy. To begin with, he has long been a favorite of the libertarian billionaires Charles and David Koch. Before entering Congress, Ryan worked with a conservative group that would eventually merge with a Koch brothers’ group to become FreedomWorks, a leading sponsor of the Tea Party movement. Their mutual interests in libertarianism could explain why the private energy corporation Koch Industries has given Ryan more than $65,000 over his career. The Koch brothers have promised to funnel $400 million through outside groups to defeat President Obama this year.
Ryan’s wife, Janna Little Ryan, has also entangled Ryan in some potential conflicts of interest. Her family owns stakes in land and energy companies in Texas and Oklahoma, and according to her husband’s personal financial forms, the couple has at least $800,000 worth of holdings in those companies. An investigation by the Daily Beast last year found that those companies would receive $45 billion in tax breaks and subsidies under Ryan’s proposed budget.
Mrs. Ryan also spent a decade in Washington as a corporate lobbyist, where she worked primarily at Price waterhouse Coopers. Not only is Pricewaterhouse Coopers one of her husband’s largest sources of contributions, but so are two of her clients while working there: United Parcel Service and Blue Cross Blue Shield. Altogether the three companies and their employees have given Ryan more than $150,000 over the years.
Then there’s Ryan’s connections to a Wisconsin businessman, Dennis Troha, who with his family gave Ryan nearly $60,000 in contributions from 1999 to 2005, according to the Washington Post. Troha was simultaneously trying to open a large Indian casino in Ryan’s district and lobbying for legislation giving his trucking company special hauling privileges. To do so, Troha enlisted Ryan, who made phone calls to federal agencies and pushed for the truck legislation on Troha’s behalf.
In 2007, Troha was indicted on charges of funneling illegal campaign contributions to Wisconsin politicians to advance his gaming and trucking interests, and Ryan was the only politician named in the court documents when Troha’s associate pleaded guilty to the scheme. Ryan would later donate the equivalent of Troha’s contributions to a local Boys and Girls Club.
https://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2012/08/14/the-big-money-behind-paul-ryans-political-career
A $20B wall amortized over 4 - 8 yrs compared to a $3T annual budget would hardly be considered a budget rounding error by the OMB.
The GOPe is playing with fire.
Here is where I stand on this. I did not vote for Trump because of the wall, and that isn’t an issue that I care a lot about, BUT, if it means shutting down the government if he doesn’t back down, I say DON’T BACK DOWN!!!
This is an opportunity to shut down the EPA, cut all the billions going toward “global climate change”, cut unnecessary and destructive programs, and keep the money going to the poor, and the elderly. This is an opportunity to expose the evil heartlessness of the Democrats who cut necessary programs when the Republicans shut down the government, just to score political points.
They have no problem letting their constituents suffer for political payoffs. I say take full advantage. EXPOSE THEM!!!
Nothing is more important. $20B is pocket change to Uncle Sam.
The wall is "concrete" evidence that DC is finally starting to bend to the will of the people.
The wall is the war. If we can’t get $4B to kick off wall construction then we are not going to ever get anything.
Is China selling us unfairly cheap lumber?
Nothing is more important then immigration, NOTHING. Trump was elected to build the wall. If he backs off on the wall I am done with him and the GOP.
He has backed off of one promise after another, the wall is the the final straw. BUILD THE WALL.
The Rats know that if Trump backs off the wall he will lose his base, that is why they are pushing so hard on no wall.
I am not asking about lumber. If trump can place a retroactive tax on Canada he can do it on china. Has he?
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