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Current Weak Solar Cycle Could Reduce Global Temperatures By Half A Degree
warrs up with that? ^ | March 31, 2017 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 04/01/2017 10:34:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

From ​the Swiss National Science Foundation (SNSF)

Sun’s impact on climate change quantified for first time

A solar flare captured by NASA’s Solar Dynamics Observatory – click for much larger image

For the first time, model calculations show a plausible way that fluctuations in solar activity could have a tangible impact on the climate. Studies funded by the Swiss National Science Foundation expect human-induced global warming to tail off slightly over the next few decades. A weaker sun could reduce temperatures by half a degree.

There is human-induced climate change, and there are natural climate fluctuations. One important factor in the unchanging rise and fall of the Earth’s temperature and its different cycles is the sun. As its activity varies, so does the intensity of the sunlight that reaches us. One of the key questions facing climate researchers is whether these fluctuations have any effect at all on the Earth’s climate. IPCC reports assume that recent solar activity is insignificant for climate change, and that the same will apply to activity in the near future.

Researchers from the Physical Meteorological Observatory Davos (PMOD), the Swiss Federal Institute of Aquatic Science and Technology (EAWAG), ETH Zurich and the University of Bern are now qualifying this assumption. Their elaborate model calculations are supplying a robust estimate of the contribution that the sun is expected to make to temperature change in the next 100 years. For the first time, a significant effect is apparent. They expect the Earth’s temperature to fall by half a degree when solar activity reaches its next minimum.

According to project head Werner Schmutz, who is also Director of PMOD, this reduction in temperature is significant, even though it will do little to compensate for human-induced climate change. “We could win valuable time if solar activity declines and slows the pace of global warming a little. That might help us to deal with the consequences of climate change.” But this will be no more than borrowed time, warns Schmutz, since the next minimum will inevitably be followed by a maximum.

Strong fluctuations could explain past climate

At the end of March, the researchers working on the project will meet in Davos for a conference to discuss the final results. The project brought together various research institutions’ capabilities in terms of climate effect modelling. PMOD calculated what is known as “radiative forcing” taking account of particle as well as electromagnetic radiation, ETH Zurich worked out its further effects in the Earth’s atmosphere and the University of Bern investigated the interactions between the atmosphere and oceans.

The Swiss researchers assumed a greater fluctuation in the radiation striking the Earth than previous models had done. Schmutz is convinced that “this is the only way that we can understand the natural fluctuations in our climate over the last few millennia.” He says that other hypotheses, such as the effect of major volcanic eruptions, are less conclusive.

Exactly how the sun will behave over the next few years remains a matter of speculation, however, since appropriate data series have only been available for a few decades and they reveal no evidence of fluctuations during this time. “To that extent, our latest results are still a hypothesis,” says Schmutz, “and it remains difficult for solar physicists to predict the next cycle.” But since we have been observing a consistently strong phase since 1950, it is highly likely that we will experience another low point in 50 to 100 years’ time. It could be every bit as intense as the Maunder Minimum, which brought particularly cold weather during the 17th century.

Important historical data

The research project also placed great importance on the historical perspective. The Oeschger Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of Bern compared data series on past solar activity with other specific climatic conditions. People have been recording the number of sunspots, which correlates well with solar activity levels, for some three centuries now. However, it is much more difficult to quantify exactly how cold it was on Earth back then. “We know that the winters during the last minimum were very cold, at least in northern Europe,” says Schmutz. The researchers still have a fair amount of work to do before they have a detailed understanding of the relationship between solar activity and the global climate both in the past and in the future.

h/t to The GWPF



TOPICS: Astronomy; Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; fakescience; globalcooling; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax
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1 posted on 04/01/2017 10:34:54 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

LMAO..It is so funny seeing these scientists create excuses..


2 posted on 04/01/2017 10:42:06 PM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: SunkenCiv; NormsRevenge; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; TigersEye; Oynx; Marine_Uncle; BenLurkin; ...

Another climate Denier.....The Swiss.


3 posted on 04/01/2017 10:44:31 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The swamp is worse than most can imagine.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Isn't this going to interfere with global warming? Or is the ocean level going to drop by twenty feet, rather than rise by 3 inches?

I'm confused...

4 posted on 04/01/2017 10:49:15 PM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: freespirit2012

Seems to me they are saying this is completely caused by the sun.

That they’re NOT blaming humans is a good thing.


5 posted on 04/01/2017 10:49:42 PM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust cIonservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: freespirit2012
Yes, they still do believe that the Globe will warm back up when the Sun gets over its current decline...so they do admit that the Sun has an impact....

That is an improvement!

6 posted on 04/01/2017 11:03:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The swamp is worse than most can imagine.)
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Too bad John B. McLemore didn’t wait around for this!


7 posted on 04/01/2017 11:05:12 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl
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To: jonascord
Well,...they are saying...You just wait....it is gonna happen....

But they us to say the Sun had nothing to do with the Global temperature....Now they are changing their tune.....

We are beating them down!

8 posted on 04/01/2017 11:09:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The swamp is worse than most can imagine.)
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To: dp0622

The sun is the major factor in warming the earth. Who would have guessed at such an unlikely source?


9 posted on 04/01/2017 11:14:57 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: jonascord; BenLurkin
Search turned up this article:

Living with a Capricious Star: What Drives the Solar Cycle?

10 posted on 04/01/2017 11:17:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The swamp is worse than most can imagine.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Globull warmers are just trying to buy some time.

Yeah, life on earth will not end by 2050, we have a window of time to keep your grants and donations coming in, and we accept credit cards!


11 posted on 04/01/2017 11:43:14 PM PDT by Noob1999
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Will that “half a degree” be at my house or my neighbor’s house? Just asking.


12 posted on 04/01/2017 11:50:46 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (McCain has got to go. The boy is crazy.)
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To: Pollster1

“The sun is the major factor in warming the earth. Who would have guessed at such an unlikely source?”

I gotta admit - I was blindsided.


13 posted on 04/01/2017 11:52:03 PM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Magic Fingers

Me too. Completely in the dark.


14 posted on 04/01/2017 11:58:15 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: Magic Fingers

Yup!

I thought it was all due to VW diesel emissions cheating!

Maybe they can get some of their $20 billion in fines back.


15 posted on 04/02/2017 12:03:22 AM PDT by Noob1999
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Someone is very unhappy...
16 posted on 04/02/2017 12:27:49 AM PDT by BigEdLB (To Dimwitocrats: We won. You lost. Get used to it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Under Impotant Historical Data the author laments it is difficult to quantify but Professor Schmutz assures us it was “very cold”

Whenever Einstein was asked what is the speed of light I’m sure he answered “like super fast”

Yes the science is settled. The climate debate is over Professor Gore.


17 posted on 04/02/2017 12:28:28 AM PDT by Stopthethreat
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To: jonascord

I read an article that said that ocean levels have risen “significantly” but we cannot perceive it because those pesky continents keep absorbing the excess water.

Yes they actually printed that in a serious “science” article. I am not making this up


18 posted on 04/02/2017 12:37:06 AM PDT by Stopthethreat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
We know that the Obama regime lied about everything...so expect "climate change" to turn down...another ice age in our future...

Paging Bill Ayres.....billy boy ...pick up the white (no racist pun intended) phone.....

Your long term dream and our nightmare arrives....

In No Place to Hide, Grathwohl explains that the Weathermen actually believed that they would be successful in overthrowing the U.S. government and that, with the help of the Cubans, Chinese, Russians, and North Vietnamese, they would occupy America. Americans would have to be "re-educated" in camps, similar to what the communists did in Vietnam, Cambodia, Laos, and other countries they had taken over. Here is one of the chilling revelations Larry Grathwohl made in the film:

I asked, "Well what is going to happen to those people we can't reeducate, that are diehard capitalists?" And the reply was that they'd have to be eliminated.

And when I pursued this further, they estimated they would have to eliminate 25 million people in these reeducation centers.

And when I say "eliminate," I mean "kill."

Twenty-five million people.

19 posted on 04/02/2017 2:48:44 AM PDT by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth)
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To: spokeshave

In other news...I predict an emergency project...bigger and more important than the “Manhattan Project” in Trump’s second term to prepare for the ice age.


20 posted on 04/02/2017 2:52:32 AM PDT by spokeshave (In the Thatch Weave,..Trump's Wing Man is Truth)
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