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1 posted on 11/05/2016 7:52:44 PM PDT by CorporateStepsister
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To: CorporateStepsister

Yes, sharing the same room.


2 posted on 11/05/2016 7:53:45 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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Is Hitler necessarily in Hell?


3 posted on 11/05/2016 7:54:01 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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Judas in inferno, for sure (according to Dante). Pilate may have gotten away with Purgatory, but I’ll have to look it up for confirmation.


5 posted on 11/05/2016 7:55:58 PM PDT by rfp1234 (Hail Obambi, our Deer Leader)
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“The blood of Jesus is enough to wipe away even the worst of sins. ... “

No one’s talked to me yet, tho...


7 posted on 11/05/2016 7:56:54 PM PDT by Insigne123 (It is the soldier, not the community organizer, who gives us freedom of the press)
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Theologically, we can only say the one would go to hell if he died unrepentant, and only God knows his final state of mind.

Even one who commits suicide might have a split second of remorse.

It is a mystery that God can be infinitely just and merciful at the same time.

So that point is moot; you’ll argue forever.


9 posted on 11/05/2016 7:57:56 PM PDT by budj (beam me up, scotty...)
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Ask yourself who they thought Jesus Christ was.

If it isnt “My God and personal savior”, did they wind up trusting God and receiving His Good News?


10 posted on 11/05/2016 7:58:00 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Judas, yes; Jesus himself said that it would be better if that one had never been born.

Pilate? Maybe, maybe not.


11 posted on 11/05/2016 7:59:51 PM PDT by Luircin (Stomp Hillary, build wall, stop Islam. Any of the above are good reasons to vote. Trump 2016)
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In the Orthodox Church Pilate and his wife are saints.


12 posted on 11/05/2016 8:01:36 PM PDT by buwaya
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For what it’s worth:

Some early Christian traditions say Pilate repented, converted to Christianity, and was martyred. Hence, he’s considered a saint.

one reference: http://www.basarchive.org/sample/bswbBrowse.asp?PubID=BSBR&Volume=19&Issue=6&ArticleID=2

Scripture is silent on this. But who knows? It would be wonderful if it were true, attesting to our Lord’s amazing grace!


14 posted on 11/05/2016 8:03:49 PM PDT by NEWwoman (God Bless America)
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Nobody knows. Personally, I hope everyone gets a chance to ask forgiveness and avoid hell, even right after death. Even some of my in-laws. ;)


15 posted on 11/05/2016 8:03:56 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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I only know a very small snippet of their lives from the Bible. It is not my place or anyone else’s to judge others eternal destinies. The temptation is there of course but that is the work of the Lord.


17 posted on 11/05/2016 8:07:11 PM PDT by xp38
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Time as we experience it is an attribute of this created nature we inhabit. Hell is outside this created nature. So I am not sure if it makes sense to talk about somebody being in hell already. My suspicion is that those who are condemned to hell do not experience Temporal duration as we understand it, but are rather stopped from becoming more evil in an eternal static state...but this is guess work.


20 posted on 11/05/2016 8:11:20 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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The traditional demise of Judas was either by hanging himself or more graphically, either falling in a field where “his guts burst out”, or becoming morbidly obese, and being run over by a chariot, so that “his guts burst out”.

Pilate’s end is even less clear. A functionary of Roman Emperor Tiberius, because of an incident, Pilate was recalled to Rome, shortly before Tiberius died. The Emperor Caligula took his place. Renowned as a dangerous tyrant, Caligula was also (wisely) quite paranoid, and was likely suspicious of the timing of his return. Caligula either ordered him to commit suicide or into exile, where he committed suicide on his own.


21 posted on 11/05/2016 8:11:34 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Friday, January 20, 2017. Reparations end.)
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Judas? given the report of his death, i would be shocked.

scripture says (matt 18:7) “Woe unto the world because of offences! for it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!”

but, my main disagreement, FRiend, is your statement that they were “doing God’s will.”

in my opinion, they weren’t doing God’s will, they were doing their own, which God allowed. God allows us our freewill even when contrary to His. Being God, He has the necessary power, presence and foreknowledge to turn all evil back to the good.


22 posted on 11/05/2016 8:14:06 PM PDT by dadfly
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No. Judas did what Jesus told him to do. And Jesus left it up to Judas to tell the others that he was the one who would betray Jesus
Judas didn’t have to dip his bread in that bowl of water.


23 posted on 11/05/2016 8:14:57 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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On the cross Jesus intervened on behalf of those who crucified Him saying “Forgive them.” That included Pilot.


25 posted on 11/05/2016 8:17:28 PM PDT by Terry Mross (This country will fail to exist in my lifetime. And I'm gettin' up there in age.)
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Judas hanged himself. That is suicide. He is in Hell even not considering his actions in the Garden.. Pilate, well we do not know the state of his soul at the time of his death or whether he came to believe. We could say that he is probably in Hell but we cannot say that with certainty.


27 posted on 11/05/2016 8:19:23 PM PDT by arthurus (Hillary's campaign is getting shaky)
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The one sin Jesus told us is unforgivable is denying the power and authority of God as Satan did. So we don’t know in either case.


28 posted on 11/05/2016 8:19:27 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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So many confuse HELL with the Lake of Fire (Gehenna)

Hell is just an english rendering of Hades or Sheol, nothing more than a hole in the ground (grave or tomb)

The Lake of Fire is Spiritual and Paul has written much on it, as did Jesus.

If a man’s works is burned up; he will lose everything, yet he himself shall be saved as if by fire.

Also, ‘Fire and Brimstone’ sounds horrific but in ancient times both were used to cleanse precious metals such as gold and silver.

I guess all that I have stated above will cause some question; however, question this.

If one believes in a God who willingly and willfully torture billions upon billions with fire with NO HOPE of redemption, I ask you to name a single instance of Satan HIMSELF performing an act as horrific (even close)

Seem to me that GOD is LOVE and Satan is NOT, then who or what are you believing in if YOUR God could even imagine such an act of burning men, women and children alive for ever. Just consider the stench, the screams, the pleading for it to just end.

Do you love a God that would do such a thing, or does one feel vindicated because HE will but not to them?

As stated from the start; this whole notion is beyond biblical belief; because IF THIS TRUTH, then how could anyone be judged before the resurrection, for surely it was after the resurrection that the deeds of each of us a read and the rewards or condemnation given. The common belief of the resurrection prohibits HELL FIRE prior to the event.

If however the common PHYSICAL belief of the resurrection is false and the resurrection is spiritual, then this fits with what both Jesus and Paul taught.


30 posted on 11/05/2016 8:20:38 PM PDT by BornToBeAmerican (Don't forget Love)
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Which ‘hell’? The only named entity that has been judged to ‘death’ is the devil. There is a number of fallen angels that too have been judged. The rest of the souls/spirit intellect are yet to be judged. There is something about that warning about judge not lest we be judged. It is Written twice that God hated Esau, but no where is it Written that Esau was judged to death.


33 posted on 11/05/2016 8:24:07 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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