Royal palace discovered in area believed to be birthplace of King Arthur

The Telegraph ^ | 8/3/16 | Nicola Harley

[LibWhacker]

A royal palace has been discovered in the area reputed to be the birthplace of King Arthur.

The palace discovered at Tintagel in Cornwall is believed to date from the sixth century - around the time that the legendary king may have lived.

They believe the one-metre thick walls being unearthed are from a 6th century palace belonging to the rulers of the ancient south-west British kingdom of Dumnonia.

Excavations have been taking place at the site as part of a five-year research project being run by English Heritage at the 13th century Tintagel Castle in Cornwall to find out more about the historic site from the fifth to the seventh centuries.

[Oztrich Boy]

[lefty-lie-spy]

I thought all the eggheads kept saying the King Arthur stories are apocryphal and that he probably never existed, and this story appears to be saying just the opposite.

[BlackVeil]

GGG ping.

[equaviator]

I saw one documentary where “Arthur” was said to be really a great ancient general and warrior chief with the luxury of having some time in between battles. How he got from there to being “King Arthur”, I have no idea.

[Fai Mao]

I think that most scholars think he is a composite of several petty kings and warlords over 2 or 3 centuries

[FLCowboy,]

I wonder how a castle with walls one meter thick can become buried and stay hidden for 1400 years.

[xp38]

ARTHUR:
It’s true! It’s true! The crown has made it clear.
The climate must be perfect all the year.

A law was made a distant moon ago here:
July and August cannot be too hot.
And there’s a legal limit to the snow here
In Camelot.
The winter is forbidden till December
And exits March the second on the dot.
By order, summer lingers through September
In Camelot.
Camelot! Camelot!
I know it sounds a bit bizarre,
But in Camelot, Camelot
That’s how conditions are.
The rain may never fall till after sundown.
By eight, the morning fog must disappear.
In short, there’s simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
In Camelot.

Camelot! Camelot!
I know it gives a person pause,
But in Camelot, Camelot
Those are the legal laws.
The snow may never slush upon the hillside.
By nine p.m. the moonlight must appear.
In short, there’s simply not
A more congenial spot
For happily-ever-aftering than here
In Camelot.

[Charles Martel]

The palace discovered at Tintagel in Cornwall

It is a silly p(a)lace.

[Charles Martel]

I saw one documentary where “Arthur” was said to be really a great ancient general and warrior chief with the luxury of having some time in between battles. How he got from there to being “King Arthur”, I have no idea.

Sounds like in war, he was tough and able.

Hmm.

[RandallFlagg]

But.........



Did they ever find the coconuts?

[wally_bert]

It’s just a model.

[moose07]

“I wonder how a castle with walls one meter thick can become buried and stay hidden for 1400 years.”

Quite easily.
The site has been used and reused over the millennia.
A Medieval Castle currently stands on the site.
Although the soil levels on the site only rise slowly due to the hostile location , the number of buried buildings that have been found there is quite amazing.
This is quite a common occurrence all over the UK, the soil levels rise from an inch or two to several yards per millennium.

[chit*chat]

TOO COOL !!!!!!!

[donozark]

Interesting. Thanx for posting! A break from all the political drama....

[sphinx]

Was there an historical Arthur? The Romano-British population of Britain certainly resisted the Germanic invasions, but we know virtually nothing about these wars.

Was there a coherent Romano-British polity that mounted a reasonably united effort, at least in the early stages, or was there a swift collapse into extreme localism, with sub-Roman provincial nobility quickly devolving into local warlords? We don't know.

Was there a singular leader who distinguished himself enough in this period that he stood out to contemporaries as the hero of the piece? We don't know that either.

The pro-Arthur camp argues that the emergence during the dark ages of the folkloric tradition of an heroic resistance led by a great war leader suggests that there was such an outstanding figure. The derivation of the name is a separable question.

[Jemian]

It hasn’t. Archeologists have just reached another layer down. But, the castle and associated legend have been known for some time.

[sphinx]

In addition, Gildas, who was a near contemporary, writes as if "the British" did in fact identify and fight collectively, at least early on, but Gildas does not mention "Arthur." He does mention one "Ambrosius Aurelianus," as the leader of the Britons. Gildas, however, was not writing history; he was writing a sermon. The British chain of command in the Saxon wars was not his concern. Failure to mention Arthur does not necessarily mean anything.

Oceans of ink have been spilled speculating about Ambrosius and his possible connections with, and possible identity with, Arthur. Arthur's name crops up later, in fragments of Welsh sagas and in Nennius. Arthur is thus apparently an early figure, but the name can't be definitively pinned back to fifth century.

[sneakers]

He’s not on the list here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqHwMloqHY4

[bert]

What else could thy possibly be?