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Massive 'Lava Lamp' Blobs Deep Inside Earth Have Scientists Puzzled
livescience.com ^ | 07/05/2016 | Greg Uyeno

Posted on 07/07/2016 5:53:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin

Two continent-size blobs of hot — and possibly molten — rock can be found deep underground, about halfway to the center of the Earth, according to a new study. These curious structures — each of which is so large that it would be 100 times taller than Mount Everest...

One of the blobs is located beneath the Pacific Ocean, and the other can be found beneath the Atlantic. These underground structures start where the Earth's mantle meets the core, but they send "plumes" up through the rock like a Lava Lamp, the researchers said.

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Different types of seismic waves travel at different speeds, depending on the type of rock the blobs are moving through. And by comparing the timing and delay of signals from multiple locations, seismologists can build models of what's going on in the Earth's interior.

The blobs are characterized by slower wave speeds, which suggests they are a different temperature from the rest of the Earth's mantle...But at some of the edges, normal wave speeds transition abruptly to low wave speeds. A pure temperature difference would result in a more gradual change... which suggests the blobs are likely made up of something different from what makes up their surroundings.

Because they're big and characterized by the slower wave speeds, the blobs have been called large low velocity provinces (LLVPs). And ... scientists call the areas large low shear velocity provinces (LLSVPs).

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If an especially large "superplume" of magma from one of these blobs were to make it to the surface, it would result in "massive eruptions where the lava will come out for millions of years at a time," ...There isn't much cause for alarm, though. "The next one could be on its way," he said, "but it could be a million years away."

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism
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1 posted on 07/07/2016 5:53:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: BenLurkin

Leftovers from Theia?


2 posted on 07/07/2016 5:55:24 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: Little Pig

Did they find leisure suits and platform shoes?


3 posted on 07/07/2016 5:56:33 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam. Buy ammo.")
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To: BenLurkin

Let’s hope they circulate, as in a lava lamp, rather than burble to the surface!


4 posted on 07/07/2016 5:57:08 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: BenLurkin

Bet there’s a lot of methane spewing into the waters and into the atmosphere.


5 posted on 07/07/2016 5:58:04 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Little Pig

Good point!


6 posted on 07/07/2016 5:58:47 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

The Climate Change people already understand and know all about the geophysics of the earth. They know how everything works. /sarc


7 posted on 07/07/2016 5:59:10 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

Don’t forget the sun ... they know all about how the sun works, too!


8 posted on 07/07/2016 6:01:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down." ~ Johnny Cash)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Exactly...as they rise and cool they become more dense, then fall.


9 posted on 07/07/2016 6:01:29 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: Starboard

That’s because they’re Climate Scientologists! For Science!


10 posted on 07/07/2016 6:06:22 AM PDT by Noumenon (We owe them nothing: not respect, not loyalty, not obedience.)
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To: Little Pig

Nothing puzzling at all about these molten plumes. The ones discovered are located somewhere beneath the slowly separating plates that are cleft beneath the Atlantic Trench and the Mariana Trench, where the depths are the greatest and the earth’s crust are presumed thinnest.

Fluids being acted upon by immutable physical forces. Eventually, there will be an enormous discharge of the internal pressures and a new equilibrium will be established.

Can’t say much for the survival rates for any plant or animal organisms in the immediate area, though, and secondary effects would have world-wide effects. One or more supercaldera volcanoes will be formed.


11 posted on 07/07/2016 6:06:50 AM PDT by alloysteel (Of course you will live in interesting times, Nobody has a choice, now.)
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To: BenLurkin

It’s the pressure from the weight of the oceans that keeps them from bubbling to the surface, so if the oceans rise a bit, it would not be a bad thing.


12 posted on 07/07/2016 6:07:54 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: BenLurkin

I read a sci-fi short story once, (Arthur C. Clarke?), that had these ‘blobs’ as sentient beings who theorized that nothing could live on the surface of their underground world because it was too cold and nothing could survive there..........................


13 posted on 07/07/2016 6:08:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: alloysteel

Or we’ll get a replay of the Deccan Traps, which in reality would be worse.


14 posted on 07/07/2016 6:09:30 AM PDT by Little Pig
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To: BenLurkin

Typical science nowadays, every estimate has millions of years of variation. At that point, suck up your pride and admit you just don’t know.


15 posted on 07/07/2016 6:15:27 AM PDT by Marko413
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To: smokingfrog

Well sure, as long as no islands get tipped-over and the polar bears don’t go extinct....


16 posted on 07/07/2016 6:23:33 AM PDT by bigbob (The Hillary indictment will have to come from us.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

“Let’s hope they circulate, as in a lava lamp, rather than burble to the surface!”

I wonder how large a near earth object would have to be in order to effect your scenario, and whether the moon’s gravity already influences them to some degree.


17 posted on 07/07/2016 6:26:13 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: BenLurkin

Pacific one is the continent Mu.

Atlantic one is the continent of Atlantis.


18 posted on 07/07/2016 6:48:47 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: BenLurkin

It is probably just Xenu waking up. Or Cthulu.


19 posted on 07/07/2016 6:56:22 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: 75thOVI; Abathar; agrace; aimhigh; Alice in Wonderland; AndrewC; aragorn; aristotleman; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.
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20 posted on 07/07/2016 6:57:29 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
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