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5 Unintended Consequences of Windows 10 Upgradegate
makeuseof.com ^ | June 13, 2016 | Tina Sieber

Posted on 06/13/2016 9:04:11 AM PDT by Utilizer

One thing that really annoys us about Windows 10 is Microsoft’s aggressive upgrade strategy.

Steve Jobs famously said “people don’t know what they want until you show it to them.” Microsoft must think this is true for Windows 10. And so its developers keep finding new ways to trick Windows 7 and 8 users into upgrading because surely they will like Windows 10 once the see it. Or they’ll just surrender.

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Microsoft acts as if its goal for 1 billion Windows 10 users supersedes the company’s responsibility for its existing Windows customers. This reckless battle has unintended consequences that not only hurts Microsft’s customers, but also its business.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: doze; upgrade; upgradegate; win10; win7; win8; windows; windows10
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To: Utilizer

Get a Mac.


21 posted on 06/13/2016 9:38:02 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt

When you figure out how to get rid of Ask.com, could you please lemme know. I run Firefox and have that stupid extra box to check to continue running “with the new home page” which is Firefox. We have tried everything we can think of and just can’t get Ask to go away. Thanks.


22 posted on 06/13/2016 9:39:43 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: airdalechief

Put it on all our machines. Love it.


23 posted on 06/13/2016 9:41:44 AM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: Utilizer

This thread is full of competent computer users.

Well, I am not, but I do have a bad temper when assaulted.

W 10 imposed itself on me and took off before I could do anything myself, but sit there and be victimized.

I picked up the phone and called McAFEE, spent hours with them performing major surgery on my poor little desktop, and finally excised the S.O.B. from life.

It may not be permanent, before the expiration day on the 29th, but my computer runs better and McAFEE got that stinking Windows 10 icon off my lower bar screen.

My problem is Windows wants to update, but my computer won’t allow it, no matter what selections I make, which do include Windows recommended updates. The Windows icon still begs for update permission.

Maybe McAFEE blocked these updates, I don’t know, but McAfee banishes these intruders and does it with zest!

PS: I don’t even know what 10 is, either. It’s just the bullying tactics that have determined my resolve to never cooperate. lol.


24 posted on 06/13/2016 9:42:59 AM PDT by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey. Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming-- infinitum.)
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To: Banjoguy

I do run Linux. However, some of the high-end programs I use require some version of ‘doze to operate, and the latest version I can use for them is XP. They absolutely will not run on anything later.

When I have the time I plan on setting up some manner of virtual machine on one or more of the Linux versions I run and work with them from there, however, I do not see any of these machines ever running win10.

Mepis Linux, Kanotix, Uberstudent, DamnSmallLinux, Eagle Linux, Knoppix, or Mint13K-LTE -they all work well and each fills a need without having to deal with any Upgrade issues. :)

Even trying to convince some people (even some in the local citygov) to switch some of their computers over to Kiosk Linux to avoid all the malware headaches and licensing costs they have such a hard time dealing with, but some people just are so stuck in their ways they insist they MUST have microsoft running on their machines.

It gets tiresome after awhile, I must say.


25 posted on 06/13/2016 9:45:10 AM PDT by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the muzrims trying to kill them)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Disconnect yourself from the Internet. Guaranteed no more updates.


26 posted on 06/13/2016 9:48:05 AM PDT by McGruff (How about investigating the donations to the Clinton Foundation)
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To: r_barton

Linux, yes.
Chrome-anything: No!
Chrome is Google, and they own access to your data and harvest information from any of the products you use or archive information.

Stay the Hell away from Google.

RE: “Unless you specifically need Windows to run a program, most people would be better off with a Chromebook or Chromebox.

More sophisticated users that don’t need to run a specific Windows program would be better off with Linux.

Microsoft Windows is not your friend”


27 posted on 06/13/2016 9:48:44 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Utilizer

I upgraded to Windows 10 on a tablet after which Bluetooth would no longer work. Fortunately I made an image backup using Clonezilla prior to the upgrade, so I was able to easily return to Windows 7.

Now I have run Never10, https://www.grc.com/never10.htm, which prevents the upgrade. No more nagging.


28 posted on 06/13/2016 9:50:40 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: Utilizer

Windows 10 upgrades also shut down many (not all!) video cards and audio programs on older PC’s.

Sorry: No more audio.
And yo cannot “Undo” or successfully Abort the Windows Upgrade once it starts.


29 posted on 06/13/2016 9:57:49 AM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: Utilizer

Microsoft Vista Home Premium on a new laptop turned me into a happy LINUX user. All of the Windows 10 upgrade problems I’ve read about convinces me that I made the right decision when I dumped Windows for LINUX...


30 posted on 06/13/2016 10:06:15 AM PDT by DaBeerfreak (As long as the politicians believe they're not the problem; we have a big problem.)
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To: I want the USA back
MS needs to be sued over this.

..and everyone who approved this heavy-handed approach fired.

31 posted on 06/13/2016 10:14:12 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (#GuiltyAsHELLary2016 #KimJungHill)
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To: Utilizer

Thanks for your informative response. I need to learn the virtual machine technique since there are a few pgms I need to run that will not run under Linux, e.g Sibelius 6.


32 posted on 06/13/2016 10:16:04 AM PDT by Banjoguy
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To: Utilizer

My upgrade happened on a reboot. At first I thought it was a virus. Now after months battling it, finding my pages off center, slow and the system running constantly, I have gone back to Google Chrome. I despise Windows 10 and will not use it again.


33 posted on 06/13/2016 10:24:41 AM PDT by armydawg505
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To: Banjoguy

There are a bunch of videos on u-toob that chronicle the setup and maintenance of virtual desktops. There are several “flavors” including Microsoft’s Virtual Desktop, VMware, and Oracle’s Virtualbox (to name a few).

I run VMware at work and Virtualbox on my laptop.

Oh, and there are several FReepers who appear to work with VM’s as a part of their jobs so there’s always a wealth of free advice!


34 posted on 06/13/2016 10:37:33 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Utilizer
You will be converted come what may.

Totally true! I just love my new Linux OS. Why, oh why, did I wait so long?

35 posted on 06/13/2016 10:41:09 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: 17th Miss Regt

Unless you have expensive application that only run on Windows, you should consider Linux.


36 posted on 06/13/2016 10:42:48 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: Utilizer
I have the same issue. Many of my hardware development tools will not work with anything later than XP. I keep my XP machine behind a Linux firewall. I will run XP in a virtual machine once this hardware bites the dust.

Microsoft violated their own "backwards compatibility" rules when the foisted this new stuff upon us. Whatever happened to the concept of DLLs for ease of compatibility? I have thousands of dollars worth of instrumentation and software that will not work on their new OSs.

I've dug in for a long war.

37 posted on 06/13/2016 10:50:17 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: RitaOK

I wouldn’t give McAfee the time of day anymore.


38 posted on 06/13/2016 11:01:47 AM PDT by SgtHooper (If you remember the 60's, YOU WEREN'T THERE!)
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To: Utilizer

https://www.grc.com/never10.htm Go here if you don’t want anymore notifications. Other than that I love Windows 10 and didn’t have any problems with it.


39 posted on 06/13/2016 11:06:47 AM PDT by dburt2 (Windows 10)
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To: Utilizer

I experienced a complete failed Win10 upgrade even though Microsoft said my PC was compatible. Unfortunately it wasn’t and the Win10 upgrade hung at 70% complete. I had to use my windows 7 recovery disc to recover my PC after working with Microsoft support for over 10 hours trying to restore windows 7. I spent many more hours cleaning up the mess this upgrade caused me.

I recommend everyone check with their PC manufacturer to ensure your specific model and serial number PC can support Win10 before installing it.


40 posted on 06/13/2016 11:07:16 AM PDT by Keen-Minded
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