Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The work of Neanderthals: Ancient ring-like structures from 176,000 years ago
l a times ^ | 05/25/2016 | Deborah Netburn

Posted on 05/25/2016 7:10:46 PM PDT by BenLurkin

Deep in a dark cave in southwestern France lie half a dozen mysterious structures that scientists believe were built by Neanderthals 176,000 years ago -- about 140,000 years before the first modern humans arrived in Europe.

The structures, described Wednesday in the journal Nature, are located in what is known as the Bruniquel Cave. They are made of roughly 400 pieces of stalagmites, all roughly, almost eerily, the same size.

Archaeologists say these mineral formations were probably broken off the cave floor by ancient hands and then deliberately arranged into two large rings and a series of four round piles up to 15 inches high.

If all the pieces were gathered up and placed on a scale, they would weigh 2.4 tons.

they may have been used to contain fire, perhaps to light the cave.

Experts say the assemblages are unlike anything else in the historical record. It is still unclear exactly what purpose they served -- whether some type of domestic use or a ritual or symbolic behavior.

Regardless, they represent some of the earliest known constructions made by hominids, as well as the earliest known evidence of cave use by early humans. They also suggest that early Neanderthals may have had better control over fire than was previously thought.

And perhaps most intriguingly, the study authors say that the group responsible for the mysterious construction must have had a fairly sophisticated social structure.

"Building these structures was a project. It required an objective which has been discussed among several people and enough social organization to assign tasks," said Jacques Jaubert of the University of Bordeaux in France and the first author on the study. "Certainly, it was a collective work."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: bruniquelcave; france; geometry; godsgravesglyphs; jacquesjaubert; neandertal; neandertals; neanderthal; neanderthals; uofbordeaux; uraniumseriesdating
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

1 posted on 05/25/2016 7:10:47 PM PDT by BenLurkin
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: SunkenCiv

ping


2 posted on 05/25/2016 7:11:09 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Better take pictures quick.

Islamic Muslims will certainly destroy it forever once they become Mayor.


3 posted on 05/25/2016 7:16:01 PM PDT by TheNext
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

can you post the picture of the structure. unless you have a subscription to the LA times you can’t read the article.


4 posted on 05/25/2016 7:22:01 PM PDT by ckilmer (q e)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ckilmer

Picture here:

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2090183-neanderthals-built-mystery-underground-circles-175000-years-ago/


5 posted on 05/25/2016 7:25:12 PM PDT by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: ckilmer

More pictures here:

https://www.google.com/search?q=neanderthals+stalagmites+circles+cave+france&safe=active&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwilmKCz2PbMAhUKMSYKHQDyA-MQ_AUIBygB&biw=1536&bih=708&dpr=1.25

(select images tab)


6 posted on 05/25/2016 7:26:22 PM PDT by PAR35
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Ok call me crazy but the pictures do not look like a manmade structure to me. This seems super speculative, at best.


7 posted on 05/25/2016 7:26:44 PM PDT by Stingray51
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Interesting. Will try to look it up the next time I’m in the Midi.


8 posted on 05/25/2016 7:27:20 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Stingray51

Some scientists just make it up as they go...I think this is one of those situations


9 posted on 05/25/2016 7:35:20 PM PDT by jsanders2001
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Neanderthals Feng Shui.

“... deliberately arranged into two large rings and a series of four round piles up to 15 inches high.|


10 posted on 05/25/2016 7:43:54 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

That is positively an artificial structure.

But it could be done by one guy in a couple of days if his torches held out.


11 posted on 05/25/2016 7:48:25 PM PDT by Rockpile (GOP legislators-----caviar eating surrender monkeys.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
"They're selling stalagmites down at Home Cave-oh for a dollar a pound,"


12 posted on 05/25/2016 8:15:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: UCANSEE2

It looks like it was done by one of those remodeling Neanderthals that takes your money and never finishes the job.


13 posted on 05/25/2016 8:37:15 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
Cave Kids vandalizing our Mother the Earth while Daddy was hunting Wooly Mammoths and Mommy was gathering berries.

Doesn't take a lot of brain power to move 12 lb rocks from point A to point B.

How much tax dollars did this one cost to dream up??

14 posted on 05/25/2016 8:48:41 PM PDT by HP8753 (Live Free!!!! .............or don't.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Ants, termites, bees, wasps, elephants, apes. monkeys, dolphins, whales, lions, chickens and beavers have “fairly sophisticated social structures”.


15 posted on 05/25/2016 8:53:23 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 ((("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

Looks like a dildo collection.

And I bet this is a lot closer to the truth than most of the guesses. Celebration of sexuality or something politically incorrect like that.


16 posted on 05/26/2016 12:12:14 AM PDT by CurlyDave
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]


This one has one of the best titles in the history of publishing (well, at the very least, in the history of kinda fringey books), but reads like the author has ADHD. So I haven't finished it. That was more than a couple of years ago...

BTW, currently the only site working for me is FR -- I can't bring up Google or Amazon, or anything else. That's what's known as the old switcheroo.

Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neanderthals: 100,000 Years of Lost History Atlantis and the Kingdom of the Neanderthals:
100,000 Years of Lost History

by Colin Wilson


17 posted on 05/26/2016 5:31:46 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.

18 posted on 05/26/2016 5:31:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (I'll tell you what's wrong with society -- no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin

I would suggest they are natural formations

I see no strong evidence for Neanderthal involvement beyond the need of a modern day reputation builder


19 posted on 05/26/2016 5:52:07 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc;+12, 73, ....Opabinia can teach us a lot)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BenLurkin
they may have been used to contain fire, perhaps to light the cave.

That should be easy enough to determine, as the remnants of ash would remain detectable in the soil.

20 posted on 05/26/2016 9:46:51 AM PDT by JimRed (Is it 1776 yet? TERM LIMITS, now and forever! Build the Wall, NOW!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-27 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson