Posted on 04/18/2016 9:55:53 AM PDT by Cats Pajamas
If we can't pick our nominee then we should get the chance to vote for delegates. The RNC/GOP should not be able to wine/dine and cherry pick delegates.
THIS NASTINESS IS NOT A REPRESENTATIVE REPUBLIC. IT IS CHERRY-PICKED AND GERRY-MANDERED ON BOTH SIDES.
Democrat and Republican are just made up words to give us the appearance we have a choice.
D.C. is an elite club and we ain't in it!!!!!
But you didn’t make the jump to the next level. Political parties are like clubs. They exist in layers. There’s the truly casual members that pretty much just vote, there’s the more involved members who put in some legwork like working the phones, there’s the highly involved ones who show up important stuff like organizational meetings and state conventions, and then there’s the inner circle that runs things.
I have plenty of ideas, and they’re 100% accurate. You chose your level of involvement, which did NOT include being in on the decisions, and now you don’t like the decisions, and you think they should be listening to you. But when you had a chance to be in the group they listen to you decided you didn’t like the guy in charge and left. You got far enough in to know ahead of time they’d be making bad decisions, and didn’t stick around to try to change them. And now you insist it’s THEIR fault.
Who's not going to get the nomination - no matter what? Ted Cruz. Your candidate is the most hated guy in the U.S. Senate. No one likes working with him and he's not demonstrated a capability of working with others either.
As is, your candidate is nothing more than a useful idiot for the GOP-E to stop Trump and guarantee their survival. That's truth. Even Rush Limbaugh admitted it today and I've been saying this for months already, that when it came down to Trump and Cruz, the GOP-E would saddle up with Cruz then dump him at the Convention.
Have a good one FRiend :)
I heard from the Louisiana GOP that Rubio’s 5 delegates and the 5 party unbound delegates will remain unbound, and they are to “vote their conscience” at the convention.
I let them know that party insiders “voting their conscience” is what got Cruz 100% of the delegates in Colorado, and that the only FAIR way to handle unbound delegates is for those delegates to vote proportionally to how the voters of the state voted for the candidates who remain in the race at the time of the convention.
Louisiana has 10 unbound delegates. Proportional voting for Trump, Cruz, and Kasich would result in 5 for Trump, 4 for Cruz, and 1 for Kasich. That is FAIR. But I have no doubt that Cruz will somehow end up with all 10 delegate votes — on the first ballot.
Crooked system.
What I’m saying that is if you want it that way, that’s what we’ll do. Every dang one of us will show up at every meeting. What is it going to be like when THOUSANDS of folks show up at every meeting?
But we do get to vote for those who make the decisions, at well publicized times and places and with a secret ballot.
And the process to elect delegates to choose US Presidential candidates aren't chosen in the same way? That's bizarre.
Those Ron Paul supporters would call anyone who didn't agree with them stupid, uninformed, arrogant, you name it. It was like we didn't have the intelligence to understand the wisdom of their ways.
Delegates are elected by the voters. If you show up to caucus, you get to vote for the delegates.
That’s what Ross Perot did, for example.
News Flash! The Reform Party was created for no other purpose than to promote the candidacy of Ross Perot. The purpose of any political party is to promote the political interests of its actual (not necessarily its nominal) constituency.For example, the Democrat Party purports to be for poor people and minorities, but it systematically sabotages them, and has since memory of living man runneth not to the contrary. As seen in
The “Great Society” was a signal success of the Democrats, if you understand that its real objective was to keep blacks out of the middle class, as defined below.
- Losing Ground:
- American Social Policy, 1950-1980
- Charles MurrayLikewise the Republican party nominally is for the middle class - those without any pretensions of patronizing anyone else, but also with no tolerance for being patronized. But we have been seeing, and realizing that we should have seen earlier, the extent to which the Republican Party has been dominated by time servers who go along and get along, in a Washington Generals v. Harlem Globe Trotters sense, with Democrats.
perhaps, on the whole, rather than issuing that pronouncement, you might want to ask Cruz supporters what they think. I think you would be extremely surprised at how you’re perceived. We’re not called stupid...just traitors and liars...repeatedly. I stand by my first comment.
Whatever you gotta tell yourself Mr. Rove.
Any registered Republican can show up to caucus and vote for delegates at their local precinct.
Why should they? You are free to choose any party you wish or start your own. Republican party. Their rules for their nominee.
I've tried explaining the process before only to be either ignored or smeared and insulted, in which case, have given up trying to have a dialogue with idiots and don't care to try anymore!,
Delegates or those who chose them from a slate of potential nominees, are voted on by those who are registered in Primaries and they had no clue as to whom would be the 2016 candidates!
Trumpeters obviously feel "dissed" and threaten all kinds of hopefully rhetorical mayhem but most Trumpsters haven't ever been involved in any process before and believe now that their voicers aren't being heard - believe me that's not at all the case!
The fact that the United States of America is NOT a pure democracy but rather a "representative republic."
This fact is also completely unknown and not at all understood by Trumpsters, who either had no clivc classes in middle and high school or slept through them and failed, like all most all Democrats do, to understand that the U.S. is a NOT Democracy!
Trump has received more delegates than his voters have projected, especially in states like Florida and Arizona - he needed 50% plus one to get the "winner take all" delegates - he did NOT get the 50% but 47% instead yet got all delegates.
If you and Trump are demanding that Cruz got delegates he did not get fairly then Trump MUST give back both Florida and Arizona and share them with Cruz!!!
Don't bother to answer - you only add more insults as you either are dumb like a fox, ala Donald Trump or are really as uninformed as your words make you out to be.
That should be aimed at you. You’re the one lying to yourself. I’m pointing out reality, you HAD the chance to be heard and left. You are now just a part of the masses, and they don’t care about the masses.
You’d think he could have at least sent out a tweet to his followers or something.
I could see delegates fighting for votes in 4 years if better candidates fought each other at state conventions. It would make things even nastier that it is 2016. The big reason nobody knew the process before was the GOP stooge easily won re election or he went under the radar. I was complaining about Colorado two weeks ago after reading about the process. Imagine if all states cut off voters. Just elected first ballot delegates without votes. I wonder if the RNC wants that. Cut off voting.
Re election or election.
Funny. I voted for my delegates. At both the neighborhood caucus and county caucus. I still have one more vote to cast at my State caucus.
(Oh oh!! Headline: “SCANDAL! Cruz Supporter votes THREE times!”)
“Why does a local Republican have to be active...”
I like the pamphlets that come with our local ballots. Then I can see who the well dressed people are and vote for them. Although names like Andersen and Olson will ALWAYS get my vote over names like Zirscan or Rumonavich no matter how well dressed they are. And we can just mail them in too!
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