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The Uncanny Parallels Between Donald Trump And FDR
the Federalist ^ | January 26, 2016 | Julian Adorney

Posted on 02/29/2016 11:55:17 AM PST by pilgrim

The New Deal’s executor held many positions similar to those of to one Donald J. Trump. ________________________________________________

Imagine a U.S. president who is bombastic, egotistical, and just a little racist. He worries opening the borders will mean an influx of undesirables. He implements capricious executive orders, and seems more concerned with his own power than with the Constitution. He’s often called a fascist by people who know what the term means.

No, I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Debate raged last December about whether President Trump would be a fascist. Steve Horwitz and Martin O’Malley, among others, claimed he would be. Not so fast, said Megan McArdle at Bloomberg View. A fascist president could never take power in America, McArdle argues, because, among other things, “America has neither the weak institutions nor the revolutionary organizations necessary for a Trump Reich to fester.”

But that’s not quite true. FDR may not have been Hitler or Mussolini. But the difference was one of degree, not of kind. And now Trump is following in his footsteps. Suspicious of Americans, Immigrants, and Refugees

FDR spied on political dissidents in the name of national security. In May 1940, he warned of a “fifth column” in America (a military term for civilian rebels), and claimed refugees might be enemy agents.

In “FDR Goes to War,” noted historians Burton and Anita Folsom tell the story of how FDR used the Internal Revenue Service, Federal Bureau of Investigation, and attorney general to go after his political enemies. He wiretapped phones, ordered tax audits of dissidents, and created a personal spy group to collect incriminating information about political rivals.

All of this was before FDR rounded up almost 122,000 Japanese-Americans and forced them into internment camps. While national security concerns were cited, FDR also considered Asians biologically untrustworthy.

FDR was also hostile towards refugees. When Jews sought to escape from Nazi Germany, FDR barred the gates. The State Department cut refugee immigration by 75 percent by imposing burdensome regulations. FDR defended his actions on the grounds that “among the refugees there are some spies….” But as with the internment camps, a darker motive also played in: FDR was an anti-Semite who waved away pleas to let in Jewish refugees as “Jewish wailing.”

This isn’t to suggest that all opposition to immigration is fascist. Many reasonable Americans favor immigration restrictions. But FDR’s immigration ideas, summed up in his claim that immigrants ought to have “blood of the right sort,” were clearly prejudicial. So is Trump’s rhetoric about Mexicans. The New Deal’s Not So Different from Fascism

Economically too, FDR’s ideology closely resembled the fascist policies of Mussolini’s Italy. With the creation of the National Recovery Association (NRA), FDR set up a system that pushed each industry into a cartel that cooperated with the federal government to set wages, prices, and “fair practices.” One NRA report even stated directly, “The Fascist Principles are very similar to those we have been evolving here in America.”

This similarity was not accidental. Rexford Tugwell, one of the architects of the New Deal, wrote that Mussolini had done “many of the things which seem to me necessary.”

Roosevelt said he was “deeply impressed by what [Mussolini] has accomplished.” Mussolini returned the favor in his review of FDR’s 1933 book “Looking Forward,” noting that, “Reminiscent of Fascism is (FDR’s) principle that the state no longer leaves the economy to its own devices.”

Like Trump, FDR had little respect for the separation of powers. When he tried to pass a 99.5 percent marginal tax rate on income above $100,000, Congress rebuffed him. So he issued an executive order mandating a 100 percent marginal tax rate, and lowered the ceiling to incomes of $25,000 per year (which Congress later rescinded). His attempt to do a similar end-run around the Supreme Court, the court-packing scheme, is infamous.

Paul Warburg, one of FDR’s first-term advisors, claimed, “I believe that Mr. Roosevelt is so charmed with the fun of brandishing the band leader’s baton at the head of the parade, so pleased with the picture he sees of himself, that he is no longer capable of recognizing that the human power to lead is limited.” FDR saw himself as a benevolent dictator, and his actions reflect that grandiosity. Trump has made a campaign of this same sort of grandiosity.

It’s true that FDR didn’t take total power in the United States, and that U.S. institutions prevented him from doing so. The Supreme Court struck down his ideas, especially before 1937. When he tried to pack the court with allies, the public rallied against him. Congress also refused to pass certain laws on his agenda. The Dictatorial Type Keeps Resurfacing

But FDR was both powerful and destructive. He was not Mussolini, but he ran roughshod over the rule of law, and dramatically transformed American politics—which should serve as an example of what a Trump presidency might look like.

In fact, a Trump presidency could be even more dangerous, because the powers of the presidency have expanded. The White House can place citizens on terrorist watch lists—spying on them and preventing them from flying. The president can order U.S. citizens who are abroad, like Anwar Al-Awlaki, to be assassinated without a trial. The National Security Agency allows the president to spy on political dissidents such as Faisal Gill (a Muslim Republican) and Nihad Awab (director of a Muslim civil rights organization), or even to wiretap news outlets like the Associated Press.

This doesn’t mean a Trump presidency would lead to brown shirts on the street. But there is more to fascism than goose-stepping and military style uniforms, and Trump, like FDR, displays many such characteristics. So when people look at Trump’s agenda and claim “it can’t happen here,” they’re ignoring history that’s not even a century old. Not only could such things happen, they already have.

The only sure way to guard against Trump is to roll back the enormous power of the government that he would be managing. History, even in the United States, shows that dangerous men dupe voters and take power. We should shrink government so that when they’re elected, they take as little power as possible.

Julian Adorney is a Young Voices Advocate. He has written for FEE, Townhall, The Hill, and Lawrence Read’s latest book “Excuse Me, Professor.”


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My parents considered FDR as a savior or benefactor. Believed that 'til their death. Used the old term "Yellow Dog Democrats."

Almost disowned me when informing them, their son was no longer a Democrat! 'Persona non grata' for quite a spell.

1 posted on 02/29/2016 11:55:17 AM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim

I just put this list together; seems to fit here as well:

Trump on the issues:

“The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.....I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.”

Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.102.

“I’m a conservative on most issues but a liberal on health. It is an unacceptable but accurate fact that the number of uninsured Americans has risen to 42 million. Working out detailed plans will take time. But the goal should be clear: Our people are our greatest asset. We must take care of our own. We must have universal healthcare. “

Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p.206-208

“I’m “fine” with affirmative action.”

Source: Fox News Sunday 2015 Coverage of 2016 presidential hopefuls , Oct 18, 2015

“I can’t take Israel’s side.”

http://www.wnd.com/2016/02/dump-on-trump-night-debate-means-war-on-gop-kingpin/

“Donald Trump Thinks Kelo-Style Eminent Domain is ‘a wonderful thing”

http://reason.com/blog/2015/10/06/donald-trump-thinks-kelo-style-eminent-d

“Donald Trump pledges to curb press freedom through libel laws”

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/26/trump-pledges-curb-press-freedom-libel-laws-first-amendment


2 posted on 02/29/2016 11:56:50 AM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: pilgrim
"This doesn’t mean a Trump presidency would lead to brown shirts on the street. But there is more to fascism than goose-stepping and military style uniforms, and Trump, like FDR, displays many such characteristics. So when people look at Trump’s agenda and claim “it can’t happen here,” they’re ignoring history that’s not even a century old. Not only could such things happen, they already have. "

Hysterical right to the bitter end.
3 posted on 02/29/2016 11:58:19 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: pilgrim

I think Trump is a Big Government autocrat at heart.


4 posted on 02/29/2016 12:01:12 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: pilgrim

Well, FDR was hailed as “The American Mussolini” when he first came on the scene.


5 posted on 02/29/2016 12:01:34 PM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: Jewbacca

And the hated-by-Trumpsters Mark Levin broke down the 42 million uninsured meme years ago using census data— it was about 3 million uninsured citizens who weren’t in between jobs, illegal immigrants, etc. That number is a sham and it’s accepted— of course by the really really greatest most winningest fact-vacuous Trump.


6 posted on 02/29/2016 12:04:24 PM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: Phinneous

Oh, and he’s going to make media-issued headsets great again—that way he won’t misunderstand questioners who ask him about David Duke.


7 posted on 02/29/2016 12:05:23 PM PST by Phinneous (She-yibaneh beis hamikdash bi-m'heirah v'yameinu v'sein chelkeinu b'sorahsecha.)
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To: pilgrim

I come from the same tradition, except it was my Granparents who were FDR new dealers and southern yellow dawg democrats. My Father would be a Reagan Democrat, I could not vote in the 80 election but by the 84 election, I was a Reagan Conservative.


8 posted on 02/29/2016 12:05:43 PM PST by CTrent1564
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To: pilgrim

Not mentioned above, but FDR prolonged the Great Depression by seven years.

Finally the economy was ‘rescued’ from economic depression by WWII.


9 posted on 02/29/2016 12:06:00 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, all Democrats are communists)
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To: VanDeKoik
Former CIA director Michael Hayden believes there is a legitimate possibility that the U.S. military would refuse to follow orders given by Donald Trump if the Republican front-runner becomes president and decides to make good on certain campaign pledges.

Seems there is some resistance.
10 posted on 02/29/2016 12:08:45 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim

Comparing the deportation of millions of ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS to the internment of 122,000 Japanese Americans is not the same.


11 posted on 02/29/2016 12:10:12 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Liberals are the Taliban of America, trying to tear down any symbol that they don't like.)
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To: Jewbacca
Thanks! Agree!

Past as prelude. So neat, so clean. So full of certitude. Like a fortune cookie Confucianism. Something you might hear on CSI: Special Victims Unit. A maxim cited by pop psychologist "Dr. Phil (link is external)" McGraw, in one of his many self-help books (link is external).

I'm sure you have heard the mantra. It's creeping into risk assessment reports and court testimony by forensic psychologists. Sometimes, it's augmented with incendiary metaphors: The subject is "a ticking time bomb"; he is "carrying a hand grenade and it's just a matter of when he pulls the pin."

One current case of mine involves a guy with a cluster of several violent offenses a few years ago, when he was in his 20s. He was using drugs back then, and hanging around with a bad crowd. Plus, he is chronically psychotic. Not a good combination.

But if you predict future violence based on a set of risk factors like his, you will be wrong more often than not. Only about four out of ten of those individuals judged to be at moderate to high risk of future violence go on to reoffend violently, according to research (link is external). The low base rates of violent recidivism will be working against you.


https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/witness/201301/the-best-predictor-future-behavior-is-past-behavior
12 posted on 02/29/2016 12:13:07 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: Jewbacca

13 posted on 02/29/2016 12:13:54 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Agreed. Think if the enticement is removed for them coming they will stop?

Reverse “Build it and they will come.”

Remove benefits and jobs available and “They will go.”


14 posted on 02/29/2016 12:16:13 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: pilgrim

This article is a steaming pile of excrement.


15 posted on 02/29/2016 12:16:16 PM PST by gogeo (Donald Trump. Because it's finally come to that.)
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To: DoughtyOne
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16 posted on 02/29/2016 12:17:32 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: gogeo

Thanks.

Thanks for that great articulated, rational, elequent, definative, documented response.


17 posted on 02/29/2016 12:19:16 PM PST by pilgrim
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To: DoughtyOne

I expect more from you.

Perhaps read my post and refute it, if your goal is to persuade.

If your goal is to ensure the ~30% of Republicans who state they will not ever support Trump, even against Hillary, are committed to their position, continue on.


18 posted on 02/29/2016 12:20:14 PM PST by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: pilgrim

Hate
Bigotry
Racism

Hmmm, do I see a pattern building here?

Using time tested methods to get information from terrorist, is bad?

Vulgarity, finally something I can agree with. I should do less of it.

Voting Trump...


19 posted on 02/29/2016 12:20:30 PM PST by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: pilgrim

nice IMAGINARY SMEAR JOB..... if anyone is a nazi its hillary... and hillary has spoken to eleanor roosevelt according to ehr own words... hahahahaha

there is nothing to this story except calling FDR what he was..... a phony ....who many think knew in advance about pearl harbor... and let it happen

FAR AS SAVING THE USA.... WW2 SAVED THE ECONOMY....
FDR went against the advice of his treasury advisors and made the depression WORSE AND LONGER... FDR IS A DEM PIECE OF GARBAGE... reverred like teddy “lion of the senate” pants around the ankles chappaquidik kennedy, john MM kennedy and bill BJ clinton.... ALL MORAL EQUIVALENTS ... i wont go in to FDR’s dalliances.....

The author should get a job with the Long Island psychic OR HIS OWN TV SHOW channeling people from the past and making up camparisons to living people...... hahahahaha
better off using the “magic 8 ball” ..... hahahahahaha


20 posted on 02/29/2016 12:22:28 PM PST by zzwhale
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