Thanks Little Bill for starting this topic, seems like a good one for GGG as well.
Posted on 01/13/2016 1:40:00 PM PST by Little Bill
I am wondering if any FReepers had unexpected results when they did a DNA test during a family History search.
In my case I was looking for an oppressed history of serfdom and general nastiness from Norman Overlords during the Middle Ages, just preparing for an Obama America.
To my surprise I discovered we were Normans, in the Staple, Merchants, and in general capitalists, until God and Religion brought us unto this Blessed Shore to continue in the same trades.
So in this election year of the usual Freeper cage fights I thought to step outside the blood and gore of FReeper politics and speak of Family History.
It is my personal theory that many “Holcombe” and “Holcomboroughs”, after migrating to America in the early 1800s, changed the spelling of their names to the phonetic sound of the local vernacular, becoming “Huckabee” (huh-cum-be) and “Huckleberry” (huh-cum-ber-rah).
We must have had the same genealogy ex spurt! Snort!
But I had a horse when I was a teenager and I always rode bareback!
To those who are not familiar, bareback means I rode without a saddle. I was completely dressed, unlike Lady G who wasn’t.
I’ve got Morrises from Tryon County NC...
" The Skolts are considered to be the indigenous people of the borderland area between present-day Finland, Russia and Norway, i.e. on the Kola Peninsula and the adjacent Fenno-Scandinavian mainland."
BTW, Ben Franklin and Renee Zellweger had/have the same DNA.
I found a possible black sheep, sort of related. He apparently shot his wife and her lover in a car up near Alaska. Not 100% sure it was a relative, could have been someone with the same name.
There are wonderful old songs about the IRA years ago. You can find them google.
Check out the Boys of Kilmichael.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6QX2paFZxc
This year is the 100th anniversary of the Easter Uprising. God bless those men.
Women don't usually kill themselves that way. Unless they are a Kennedy, in which case they take more violent means and hanging.
By any chance did your g. uncle have a bad temper?
:) thanks.
Ha ha, no. He was the mild-mannered, nerdy type. Harmless eccentric as they say.
FWIW, my maternal grandmother jumped in front of a train from the overpass bridge, so some do go out in more dramatic ways. Sadly.
No one from the Bentley line, but you never can tell when ya start looking. Or do the DNA.
Ran out to get a subway, the veggies they put in them are good for me. Then I got sidetracked on a couple threads and powerball. Back to normal.
Nearly everyone in the west could be descended from him, reasonably sure I am several different ways, but I don't care too much about that. Few in the Orient could claim descent.
I never found any presidents, must be one or two, distant cousin type. I've found some interesting ones, one was the first Earl of Warwick, the Castle, visited there in the 70's, took a beautiful photo of it, had no clue I had any connection.
I guess the best I can say about mine is most seemed hard working, resilient, people of faith here and there but not much in recent generations on both sides.
I once dreamed that my father was once Count Crispin, had never heard of him, and while my father was still alive, told him my dream. His response was, "a Count, eh?" Nothing after that. My father was very humble but was scrupulous in his career, civil engineer, and in managing family property and taxes. Super intelligent but under appreciated. Then I found I was descended from him but my mentor on the Plantagenet group found a bad link. A couple years later I found a vetted line, have taken a few bad turns that way.
One of my favorite stories is my sister asked me to do her and her husband's. On his side, they were close relatives of the Prime Minister of Denmark. So I got a lot about him for them. Then I got to corresponding with his cousin and discovered my sister and I are 10th cousins of her husband. We had fun with that.
But I never found any Mayflower descent for us but the cousin said my sister's husband was through a female. His heritage was about 3rd or 4th gen Swedish. So I told my sister he was a Mayflower descendant. She hesitated and said, "Oh, well I guess I won't tell him right away or he will hold it over my head." I could just see that. It makes me chuckle to myself.
I've got a few Rev. war, but don't care about stuff like DAR. A lot in my research have tugged at my heart actually. I call them my little people. They lived tragic lives seemingly through no fault of their own.
I had one more ancestor I'm not proud of. My gr gr grandfather on my mom's side. Much has eluded me about them; they were the last to come to America in the 1850's. Can't find the ship. Can't find a lot of things. Did find their marriage in Manchester Cathedral, and my gr grandfather's obit I think it was said he was from Manchester. He was a brewer by trade with 5 sons.
I think a couple were alcoholics including my grandfather who died B4 I was born, they were huge, portly men. But what bothers me some is the one who came from England was arrested every year for the last five years of his life for selling liquor on Sunday. It makes me a little mad that he didn't care enough to respect our laws.
So that's a snapshop of it. English, Scots Irish, German. Possibly one Native American way back. A great great grandfather owned two slaves in KY but moved to IL so would have had to sell them, free them, or somehow lost them. He was a man of means because he paid a substitute for my gr grandfather to fight in the Civil War. I sent for his records and found he died of disease in Louisiana, buried in Baton Rouge National Cemetery. So I have to assume the earlier ones in that line (my mom's side) owned slaves in VA if they had the means.
Now that paid substitute thing brings me some proxy guilt. It was only speculated by my late mother in her notes but I proved it out. If my gr grandfather would have gone and died (he was married with about 3 children). The year the substitute died, they had a son six months later and named him the same name. I thought he died but remembered he never married but went gold mining in Alaska. My father met him there during the war.
Then my grandmother was born. I might not be here if. There's a lot of if's in the chains, isn't there?
No one on my dad's side was from the south, all New England to Illinois.
One more thing. I wonder if I got a double whammy from the Osgood's with the depression and anxiety. My gr grandmother Caroline's brother hung himself, and one of her daughters did the same thing, also a second cousin, young mother, gassed herself in the garage. Then my cherished son suddenly was diagnosed as bi-polar, refused any treatment, and killed himself. So something is definitely wrong with the genes somewhere. My dad and his father suffered from depression but were helped through it by their wives and my dad was really happy in his final years.
Freep Mail...your way
I only know some of my family’s American history.
I know about Indians attacking a settler village of one of my ancestors. They captured and enslaved the women and children. The female relative who was captured, was scalped and her hair hooked on the door of their cabin.
I learned it took two years for the men to gather enough fighters to attack the Indians who did it and kill them all - men, women and children. They freed the women and children who were still alive but my female ancestor was “bald for the rest of her days.”
Another ancestor had the first brewery in Pennsylvania and had a pretty big company town. They were very wealthy but alcoholism was a problem. It’s a long story.
Think of all the multititudes of microagressions in that double helix!
The Lady Godiva claim may be a stretch, but if finding proof to Mayflower ancestry is pretty common. New England had outstanding vital recordsin that era even to the earliest generations. No Mayflower ancestors in my line, but there were plenty within 10 years via the Winthrop Fleet
Wow..... I got to send you a Freepmail of the 1826 news article of my great great great grandfather Osgood who supposedly went crazy, and threw himself down a well. And i also have double Osgood ancestry too.
I have heard once DNA is in a registry, it is there for good and accessible ...told this by clinical lab scientist.
Sure, but Renee Z could have come by that in a variety of, uh, ways.
Thanks Little Bill for starting this topic, seems like a good one for GGG as well.
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