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Unexpected Results From DNA Tests
Self | January 12, 2016 | Self

Posted on 01/13/2016 1:40:00 PM PST by Little Bill

I am wondering if any FReepers had unexpected results when they did a DNA test during a family History search.

In my case I was looking for an oppressed history of serfdom and general nastiness from Norman Overlords during the Middle Ages, just preparing for an Obama America.

To my surprise I discovered we were Normans, in the Staple, Merchants, and in general capitalists, until God and Religion brought us unto this Blessed Shore to continue in the same trades.

So in this election year of the usual Freeper cage fights I thought to step outside the blood and gore of FReeper politics and speak of Family History.


TOPICS: History; Hobbies; Science
KEYWORDS: dna; genealogy; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; results; strange
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To: Little Bill
I feel a song coming on :-)
101 posted on 01/13/2016 3:47:29 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: Aliska
John Osgood and Sarah Solendine/Sullendine of Lancaster, MA

lol...Hello (about 9th) Cousin.

102 posted on 01/13/2016 3:48:30 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Aliska

i own the Osgood book, let me look.


103 posted on 01/13/2016 3:49:28 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: outofsalt

I hope not, for his sake. LOL


104 posted on 01/13/2016 3:50:01 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: Rockingham

I was talking to my Grandmother, Mothers side, one time on how my Grandfather didn’t look Irish, more like a Scot.

She said don’t tell anyone his family converted.

So years later I saw one of his family name shaking in his boots about a Protestant Minister of his family name preaching in Belfast, we are all going to die.


105 posted on 01/13/2016 3:53:58 PM PST by Little Bill (o)
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To: Little Bill

No way, no how am I sending in my DNA to Big Brother.

I did our genealogy many years ago. Went to the actual places they lived and looked at the original documents. I don’t trust others’ research. Today, if you’re stumped, those online sites on only good for a hint on maybe getting unstumped but take what they say with a boatload of salt.


106 posted on 01/13/2016 3:54:37 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Little Bill

105 posts and no mention of Kevin Bacon?


107 posted on 01/13/2016 3:54:53 PM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Aliska

Your John Osgood, was son of Hooker Osgood, who was son of Hooker Osgood who was son Stephen Osgood, who was son of John Osgood....our common ancestor.


108 posted on 01/13/2016 3:55:25 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: Little Bill

What does something like that cost and where do I get one?


109 posted on 01/13/2016 3:58:07 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: bgill

That is the only way to do it in reality but at my age....


110 posted on 01/13/2016 4:00:51 PM PST by Little Bill (o)
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To: Little Bill

111 posted on 01/13/2016 4:01:24 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: Mariner

I used FTDNA go to their site for the price.


112 posted on 01/13/2016 4:02:19 PM PST by Little Bill (o)
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To: wny
I am a direct descendant of Catherine the Great.

Do you have curious attraction to barnyard animals, particularity horses?

113 posted on 01/13/2016 4:03:55 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Little Bill

Mine came back with on word on it: “Mutt”


114 posted on 01/13/2016 4:04:29 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Little Bill
Pros and Cons of FTDNA and Ancestry?

(1) FTDNA were pioneers, and IMO a little more technically astute than Ancestry

(2) Ancestry has better tools to work with searches and matches.

(3) Trust factor is less with Ancestry. Right now there is uproar in the genealogical community about their decision to discontinue support for the Family Tree Maker Software. Even with the pitchfork anger, Ancestry is ignoring us.

115 posted on 01/13/2016 4:08:38 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: catfish1957
You are descended from them, too?

I had the Osgood book from the LOC and somewhere have copies of the relevant pages. All I have linking Sarah to John is from that book you have.

Here's the problem I ran into with Sarah whose mother or grandmother was a Farwell. She was orphaned and lived in Worcester, MA under a guardianship. Could never find a record of John Osgood and Sarah Sullendine marriage.

Also I copied out and donated from the NEHGS Solendine genealogy. It's on the web somewhere. That Solendine line seems to have died out (my line and possibly yours). Many died from TB. Others in that line lived and farmed in Shirley, MA. No known gravestone remains except one for Deborah who married a Solendine (I think). There is another Solendine line that got into Michigan, but if we're related, I don't know about them.

The problem is I found the births and baptisms in Lancaster records online for John and Sarah's first several children. There is a record saying she died in Lancaster, but there is a note saying she was still alive in 17xx because she was named in a will. I think it could have been her Aunt Sarah's death from one generation previous, but no proof.

They had moved to Alstead?, NH and finally to up north, Hanover County, could find the name of the supposed town. Can't find a death record for either of them.

The problem I talked around is (without dragging out my records), Sarah and John's next-to-last child, Levi Osgood was my great great grandfather and is buried in West Truro Cemetery in Knox County, IL. So one source says she had died before my Levi was born, and she would have been in her mid or late 40's when she had him (Levi) and also a brother Manassah.

My point is Sarah could have died notwithstanding that Lancaster death record and John remarried for the last few children including my gr gr grandfather Levi. I don't know if the Osgood genealogy is sufficient proof of John and Sarah and son, Levi. I wanted another solid source and am unable to find any.

Manassah was a good clue because there was a Manassah/eh Solendine. But there is no proof other than the Osgood genealogy that John and Sarah's son is my Levi Osgood. Some sources on the web may say something, but they are all sourced back to the Osgood genealogy.

We had an extensive family history on my patrilineal line, but all I have on Levi Osgood is what I said. I did get his billfold in family things, but one of my kids must have taken it; it's gone, old but brand new, could have been one other Levi Osgood, closely related He married a Susannah Glidden in Charlestown, NH, went north to Coos County, NH, then came to IL in about 1849.

116 posted on 01/13/2016 4:16:42 PM PST by Aliska
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Great-great-great-great-grandparents, down to you. Most people have 23 chromosome pairs, which means that at least 18 of the gggg-gr generation didn't pass any of their genome to you, assuming there are no duplicates for that generations (because of criss-crossing lines of descent). The cell over the first 46 is just an illustration, not to show which ones were and were not, since there's (probably, usually) no way to know exactly. This doesn't mean some of your ancestors *weren't* your ancestors, they had to have lived (and had children) to make you possible, only that they didn't pass down any of their DNA to you. People related through that ancestor *may* have some of their DNA, perhaps all of it has survived in different family lines.
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117 posted on 01/13/2016 4:17:53 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: Little Bill

My Great Great Grandfather was a criminal and his nickname was Mad Dog.My great cousin is up for Sainthood.I claimed him :)


118 posted on 01/13/2016 4:21:16 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Little Bill

That is almost as bad as the family secret about my grandfather from County Cork having had IRA ties. My Dublin born grandmother admitted it only after he was dead and she was well into her eighties. Even then, looking carefully around her room in the nursing home, my grandmother whispered the long suspected secret and warned that it was not to be spoken of outside the family.


119 posted on 01/13/2016 4:21:27 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Little Bill

:)What did you tell him?


120 posted on 01/13/2016 4:24:36 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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