Posted on 01/03/2016 11:38:24 AM PST by conservativejoy
Donald Trump was on Face the Nation, and had an epic tantrum. Right now he's so scared of losing to Ted Cruz, he's having to lash out in ridiculous ways. It's interesting seeing what Trump looks like when he's behind, he knows he's behind, and he's wetting-his-pants scared of being the big, fat loser.
Here's the key transcript:
DICKERSON: When you say about Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100%, "Not too many evangelicals come out of Cuba," what does that mean?
TRUMP: Well, it just means that Cuba generally speaking is a Catholic country. And you don't equate evangelicals with Cuba. I don't. I mean, I think of evangelicals, and i have, I guess I am. You know, I'm Presbyterian. I'm Protestant. But I don't see it coming out of Cuba.
DICKERSON: But you're not questioning whether - I mean, as far as you know, he could be more devout than you are.
TRUMP: It's possible. Certainly it's possible. I'm not questioning it. And I say it in a somewhat smiling manner. But there's a little truth to it.
What strikes me first about this is that Trump feels the need to attack Ted Cruz's Christianity as fake. Trump wants you to think that Cruz is a secret Catholic, only pretending to be a Baptist (SBC) in order to get votes in Iowa.
Does anyone actually believe this? If you've ever heard Ted Cruz speak in your life, you know that he's been going to and paying attention in church. His style of speaking is the tell. He gets in your face, he lectures you. He wants you to get right with government. He could sprinkle his speeches with "Can I get an amen?" and it would sound natural. You can't look into his heart and know what he truly believes, but it's obvious he's been going to church and paying attention to his pastors.
But next, it's obvious Trump is pretty out of touch with what's going on in Presbyterianism in America. He's so hot to try to tar Cruz as a secret Catholic, but when given the chance, he's not taking a stand in the great conflict right now in American Presbyterianism. Let me explain.
The biggest Presbyterian Church in our country is the Presbyterian Church (USA). PCUSA currently has about 1.7 million members. That's been dropping for decades, but it started dropping faster in 2012, after the 2011 ratification of Amendment 10-A to the Book of Order, which would allow ordination of non-chaste homosexuals.
The large drop represents entire local churches abandoning PCUSA in favor of the Presbyterian Church in America. PCA takes a much more traditional view on most social issues, and has grown to have about 350,000 members. PCA and PCUSA have had to go to court over the ownership of church buildings and property, of the local congregations who flipped from PCUSA to PCA.
For Trump to speak of himself being Presbyterian, without mentioning which kind of Presbyterian he is, tells me one thing: Trump likely attends church at a PCUSA congregation, which would mean he stuck with the group that permits abortion (it is deemed morally acceptable), homosexual priests, homosexual 'blessings' as pseudo-marriages, and free divorce.
Donald Trump is throwing stones, but the evidence suggests he's got a glass house on this issue. Not a smart tactic, and a mark of scared desperation on his part.
Preposterous...because no, the stupid headline was NOT NEEDED - and it WAS STUPID - or childish as I would say - but the substance was there. A stupid headline and real substance are not mutually exclusive. Perhaps you are intellectually not familiar with the concept. I suggest you Google it.
I don't like the headline, I don't like the website, and I don't know the author. But grow up...NONE OF THAT MATTERS.....what Trump said, a stupid attack, for the second time, DOES matter. At least to thinking adults....
It’s not a game change, but it’s more than a “so what” - because this is a double down on a previous attack. This is going to get him in some hot water Monday with some radio hosts who have been worshipful to this point.
But credit to you, you did at least engage the conversation on the substance - and I always enjoy that. I do tire so of the lo info snarks based on a source made by those who don’t even read the damned piece.
You are so lost you don't even know what happened. The key is not what Red State said...the key is what TRUMP SAID.......it will be reported a lot of places.....some good some bad...but that's not relevant. What he said will be.
Both Trump and the Huckster are using Cruz’s religiosity as a surrogate for his position on Ethanol.
Cruz is too principled to do it, but my take on Trump's questioning of Cruz's faith, is to ask Trump how many Christians he knows who have never asked God for forgiveness.
Trump's statement that he has never asked God for forgiveness pretty much defines the matter for anyone who has ever read the New Testament.
I don’t understand what is controversial about an Evangelical comes ng from Cuba? Besides, hasn’t Cruz never been to ONCE in his life? Is someone claiming Cruz is secretly Muslim?
Just because Trump is much more religious than Cruz, is that important?
So which congregation does he belong to? Does he even know?
Notwithstanding Red State’s article, Trump is not that worried about the outcome in Iowa. Sure, he’d like to win Iowa, and the polls indicate it is basically head to head w/ Cruz, but from then on, in almost, if not all, the upcoming states, he has a commanding lead. Notice Trump has pivoted to campaigning against Hillary Clinton, unlike Cruz, Rubio, Bush and Kasich who are all taking shots at each other. Sure, if someone gets close or shows movement, he’ll take that on, but his strategy is clear...he is in the driver’s seat and focusing on the general. It’s his to lose at this point, and the fact that Cruz hasn’t taken shots (serious shots, not veiled ones) shows he has his eyes on Trump’s VP, which would be an unbeatable combo.
It’s just Trump babbling about something he knows absolutely Nothing about in a lame attempt to make voters question Cruz’s faith.
Good old Redstate up there with NRO in its Trump hatred courtesy of Eric Erickson.
Red State desperately wants a Trump Cruz feud.
Which third world country? Because it seems like most of our immigration come from a non-third world country.
Figures, RedState. Erik Erickson left a few days ago, but his legacy lives on. Suffering from TDS.
“NONE OF THAT MATTERS.....what Trump said, a stupid attack, for the second time, DOES matter. At least to thinking adults.... “
Alright then.
Too bad you guys blew it on having to yet again put childishness and snobbery out front first. Now you have “substance” that no one cares about. Maybe in the future, if this is so serious of a thing to you guys, you will act more like those “thinking adults” and try to write it like one.
He will need Cruz to keep him from making a total MESS of it. I’m not sure it is in Cruz’s best interest to go there, but one thing a Trump Presidency will assure....there will NOT be another Republican President for decades.
I’ve made my distaste for Mr. Trump very clear so I’m sure my thoughts will be written off by the Trumpistas; however, I do feel he’s making a huge gamble by announcing his push in Iowa. If he ends up losing after such a proclamation (which it’s looking he likely will) - even in a close one - he’s created a pretty bad narrative for himself as a candidate with no clothes that could allow another candidate to fill the vacuum.
His better play would have been to parrot Romney in ‘12 and downplay any formal strategy, then hope for a strong second place finish to push him into NH.
I could be wrong, of course - Lord knows I’ve been in the past - but I guess we’ll see.
Well, not really his “faith,” but his denomination. The way the article writer phrases it, you would think he doesn’t believe Catholics are Christians at all.
Agreed.
After the Iowa Caucus, they'll be bleeding out of their whatever.
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