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Why We Get Fat
YouTube ^ | Jun 29, 2012 | Gary Taubes; CTV Santa Cruz County

Posted on 11/06/2015 6:17:58 PM PST by WhiskeyX

Gary Taubes, a nationally known science writer, gives a lecture about obesity. The event was held at New Brighton School and was sponsored by the Santa Cruz County Office of Education.

(Excerpt) Read more at youtube.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: diabetes; fat; metabolicsyndrome; nutrition; obesity
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To: 3D-JOY; WhiskeyX

“Ask any person trying to gain weight...does eating more add weight? So how can the opposite be true either?”

If you are eating correctly, ie high fat, moderate protein, low carb (non-starchy), you will put on or lose or maintain weight as necessary. It’s about healthy eating.

It’s not specifically a weight loss or weight gain diet. It’s diet in the true sense of the word - a way of eating/life.


101 posted on 11/07/2015 6:58:44 AM PST by Diapason
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To: Diapason

“If you are eating correctly, ie high fat, moderate protein, low carb (non-starchy), you will put on or lose or maintain weight as necessary. It’s about healthy eating.”

That is the fallacy which is making hundreds of millions of people sick with metabolic syndrome and diabetes around the world. When a person develops metabolic syndrome, no matter how few calories the person eats and how much the person exercises, the body acts as though it is in starvation mode and does everything it can possibly do to retain all existing fat and convert as many calories possible from the nutritional fat, carbohydrates, and proteins into fat stored in the adipose tissues. When the intake of calories become insufficient, the body will dissolve the proteins in the muscles of the arms, legs, buttocks, heart, and elsewhere; convert those proteins into glucose in the bloodstream, and then burn a minimal fraction of the protein derived glucose as fuel while storing as much as possible into the adipose tissues with the large stores of fat already there. As the disease progresses on a low calorie diet which would cause dramatic weight loss in a person with a normal metabolism, exercise exacerbates the demand for calories and speeds the dissolution of the muscles needed to exercise and burn calories; and the proteins from the muscles that have been converted into glucose end up being converted in part to fats that make the person’s adipose tissues, abdomen or hips, swell ever more larger with obese fat. Eventually the ability to compensate for this metabolic disorder fails and the person dies without the ability to change the spiraling progression of the metabolic disorder. Until and unless a change in nutrition lowers insulin to normal levels and thereby breaks the progressive cycle by enabling the ability of the body to unlock the stores of fat in the adipose tissues, dietary restrictions of caloric intake and exercise are incapable of stopping the eventual weight gains and death.


102 posted on 11/07/2015 7:49:40 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Where did I say anything about number of calories? I’m saying exactly the opposite. It’s about the correct nutrients - or the nature of the calories, ie the hormonal (insulin) response to them.

That’s exactly what Perlmutter, Taubes and Peter Attia, William Davis and a host of others of saying.

Or, were you responding to the wrong post?


103 posted on 11/07/2015 7:58:32 AM PST by Diapason
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To: Yosemitest

Sorry to hear this...

I think you are worthy of something better...why don’t you?


104 posted on 11/07/2015 8:35:39 AM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: Diapason

You had the right idea, but your way of stating it was perhaps flawed insofar as it was ambiguous enough to be misconstrued. That was why I tried to illustrate the problem.

“If you are eating correctly, ie high fat, moderate protein, low carb (non-starchy),....” is correct so far as it goes.

The problem is in the part saying, “you will put on or lose or maintain weight as necessary. It’s about healthy eating.” It should be carefully noted that using such a ketogenic diet does not necessarily ensure a person with metabolic syndrome is going to altogether cease being in a diabetic state. Dramatic improvements in the ability to reduce fat and weight, reduce blood sugars, and improve overall health is likely to result; yet some measure of diabetes will often continue and still impede the ability to “put on or lose or maintain weight as necessary” despite the healthier diet. So, it would be unwise to overstate the case when in reality there is going to be more to resolving the medical problem. So, please consider the response as a clarification for the purposes of accuracy.


105 posted on 11/07/2015 8:42:12 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Thanks...

I had a visitor last week and she insisted on checking my blood sugar when she did hers. About 2-3 hours after lunch I was 90 and she 190. I could not put that into perspective. She is a Type 2 diabetic who uses medication not any FOOD CONTROL.


106 posted on 11/07/2015 8:43:02 AM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: WhiskeyX
All I know is that when I was in college and in the summer I would work for the Forest Service. In college I gained roughly 20 lbs a year due to inactivity and beer. In less than three weeks of working, hiking and sweating the weight would be gone.

Same for when I worked in a meat packing plant after getting out of the Army and drinking beer every night for 2.5 months. In three weeks the extra weight was gone.

Nothing gets rid of fat like hard work and sweat.

107 posted on 11/07/2015 8:48:44 AM PST by Parmy
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To: Yosemitest

“I’m watching that same thing in my mother, and I’m on the same path of destruction.”

Perhaps a very low carbohydrate diet and nutritional ketosis can at least reverse the destructive trend and dramatically improve the quality of life. These videos suggest patient studies have shown the ability to regenerate brain cells and restore cognitive functions even at 80 and 90 years of age. Anecdotal accounts and some patient studies have also reported the reversal of dementia, memory loss, and other cognitive disorders when using coconut oils, which would seem to fit into the hypothesis of ketogenic diets.


108 posted on 11/07/2015 8:50:23 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
That's what I'm interested in, and after my experience with the Dr. Adkin's Diet, I know it will shed the pounds.
What I don't know is
109 posted on 11/07/2015 9:03:39 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: 3D-JOY; WhiskeyX

I sure wish that there was a chart of foods that fit each criteria.
I am willing to give up pasta...or bread, but maybe not both...LOL

I eat 1/2 meals by other peoples standards. I use a small salad plate for my main course and small prep dish for dessert. Time spent planning and freezing leftovers before I sit down to eat has helped too.
It has been about 2 years and 20 pounds lost without any loss of energy or feeling of deprivation. Another 2 years and another new wardrobe (YES!) might be perfect.


110 posted on 11/07/2015 9:07:00 AM PST by 3D-JOY
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To: Parmy

“All I know is that....”

That is the problem, because you are relying upon what “you know” and are disregarding what you do not know. What you do not know is the difference between a normally functioning metabolism and a metabolism which no longer functions normally.

A person who eventually presents with symptoms of Diabetes mellitus Type II will typically have been suffering from a metabolic syndrome years or decades earlier and often without recognizing the symptoms. It is usually a very silent disorder and disease that goes unnoticed until it is too late to successfully avoid carbohydrate intolerance, insulin resistance, and reverse the progression of the disease without heroic efforts and the removal of nearly all carbohydrates from the diet.

In your example, you are in effect comparing apples to oranges, or it could be said you are comparing a normally functioning dragster race car to a abnormally dysfunctional dragster race car whose fuel line is closed off so the fuel tank cannot be emptied into the engine for burning. As you add more fuel to the abnormally function dragster race car, you are leaking the inflammatory fuel out of the fuel tank and into the engine space, cockpit, and elsewhere while wondering why the dragster engine isn’t emptying the fuel tank and racing down the race track. Improper nutrition in which chronic intakes of high levels of carbohydrates maintain high levels of insulin in the blood eventually overwhelms the ability of the cells to ingest glucose from the bloodstream and defeats the ability of the body’s metabolism to remove fat from the adipose tissues. Whereas the person with a normally functioning metabolism can compensate by reducing caloric intake and/or increasing exercise to burn more food calories and stored fat, the person who has developed the metabolic syndrome due to carbohydrate intolerance can no longer do so. The required mechanisms no longer function the way they do for people with normal metabolisms, and the use of restrictions in caloric intake and exercise no longer work and actually become counterproductive as they exacerbate the problem by wasting away the muscle tissues as the malfunctioning metabolism scavenges the protein in the muscles for energy instead of the stores of fat on the belly and hips.


111 posted on 11/07/2015 9:17:50 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: Yosemitest

“What I don’t know ishow it will work with my meds, being Diabetic,
and how to cut back on my meds.”

Yes, and that is a huge problem, because the medical community is very deeply entrenched in the modern paradigm that a HCLF (High Carbohydrate-Low Fat) diet with diabetic medications is the only way to treat Diabetes mellitus Type II, and the risks to their professional license and legal standing resulting from diverting from the so-called standard clinical practices in this regard discourages almost all of these doctors from considering LCHF (Low Carbohydrate-High Fat) diets as a therapeutic treatment for Type II Diabetes. Since each patient has their own individual circumstances and ability to adapt to a state of nutritional ketosis and reduction of inflammatory insulin levels, it really does require careful monitoring by a qualified physician to determine how to proceed with the effort to reverse the symptoms of diabetes and metabolic syndrome. The problem of how to find such qualified physicians and endocrinologists is very much still an open question for which innumerable diabetic patients urgently need a proper answer. However, recognition that the question requires a proper answer is an important first step towards demanding and producing such an answer, and preferably today and not some distant tomorrow.


112 posted on 11/07/2015 9:40:06 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: 3D-JOY

“I sure wish that there was a chart of foods that fit each criteria.”

Stay tuned, some of the upcoming videos I’ll include in this series of posts will address the dietary guidelines by turning the USDA Food Pyramid upside down, and others will describe meal plans and recipes.


113 posted on 11/07/2015 9:43:35 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: 3D-JOY

What is even sadder is how the family physician lacks formal training in nutrition and diverts most questions about a diabetic diet with instructions to set up a series of appointments with a licensed nutritionist, but the expensive licensed nutritionist then just repeats the standard instructions to follow the ADA (American Diabetes Association) dietary guidelines to maintain a diet with no more than about 300 grams of carbohydrate per day, instead of the USDA Guidelines for 500 grams of carbohydrates per day. The physicians, endocrinologists keep insisting you can eat most everything in moderate amounts so long as you avoid spiking your blood sugar with sugar, honey, and like sweeteners or starches. So, the patients then go out and try to eat an otherwise normal meal with the exception of sugars, bread, and other starches so long as they are reduced in calories. The end result becomes 190 mg/dl of glucose in the blood sugar test, because the meal contained 100 grams of carbohydrates instead of less than 5 to 15 grams of carbohydrate; and the patient’s metabolism was not adapted to use ketones from fats to fuel the metabolism.


114 posted on 11/07/2015 9:57:47 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
Your statement makes sense.
I am interested in a Ketosis meter, and a chart that would show what a health range is, along with blood sugar range, according to sex, age, and weight.
115 posted on 11/07/2015 10:04:16 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

“I am interested in a Ketosis meter, and a chart that would show what a health range is, along with blood sugar range, according to sex, age, and weight.”

The upcoming videos later today and in the coming days will present a lot of information about those details.

Generally speaking, a person enters ketosis at about 0.5, reaches optimum levels around 1.5, and extends the range during exercise and stress upwards to 3.0. Ketones become progressively undesirable beyond 3.0 until reaching the neighborhood of 10.0, where the onset of frequently lethal ketoacidosis occurs in Type I Diabetes patients and Type II Diabetes patients whose islets in the pancreas are not producing insulin.

In the meantime, there are currently at least two patient meter systems which combine glucose and blood ketone testing into one meter. Abbott laboratories offers the Precision Xtra blood glucose and ketone monitoring system. Nova Diabetes Care offers the Nova Max Plus.

https://www.abbottdiabetescare.com/precision-xtra
http://www.novacares.com/nova-max-plus/


116 posted on 11/07/2015 10:19:38 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX

Which one of the 2 meters will the Retired military health care support ?


117 posted on 11/07/2015 10:23:13 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

“Which one of the 2 meters will the Retired military health care support ?”

Only the insurance benefit provider can answer that question, and the answer may be different for some individuals. NovaCare.com just had a sale that ended which offered a box of Glucose test strips 50 count, a box of blood ketone test strips 10 count, and a free Nova Max Plus test meter for about $38.99 plus shipping. The sale offer appears to have ended, but the current offer is Regular Price: $48.50 and Special Price: $19.99. The test strips, of course, are an additional cost. So, when there is a sale, the purchase prices may be low enough to simply pay out of pocket for some people. If not, it will do no harm to ask for the already expired sale offer and see what happens.


118 posted on 11/07/2015 10:46:30 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
It might be within my budget, but it's a lot easier if the Retired military insurance pays for it and the strips.
How many times a day or a week do you test for ketosis ?
119 posted on 11/07/2015 11:23:28 AM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

Ketosis test strips are very expensive and users vary widely in their usage depending upon what they are trying to accomplish. Some people may try to test one or more times per day for a brief period and then test once or twice a week, and then test once a month or so.


120 posted on 11/07/2015 11:31:34 AM PST by WhiskeyX
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