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Have humans made dogs STUPID? Pets are 'lazy thinkers' compared to wild wolves and [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | September 16, 2015 | Richard Gray

Posted on 09/16/2015 5:24:45 AM PDT by C19fan

They may be man's best friend, but dogs have little to thank humans for it seems. Research suggests the domesticated pets can't solve problems as well as their wild cousins because living with us has made them 'incapable of thinking for themselves.' In tests, experts presented a 'puzzle box' containing food to a group of dogs, and a group of wolves and while the wolves were capable of breaking inside, the dogs looked to humans for help.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: agriculture; animalhusbandry; dog; dogs; domestication; godsgravesglyphs; helixmakemineadouble; huntergatherers; wolves
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1 posted on 09/16/2015 5:24:45 AM PDT by C19fan
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Dogs learned to bark specifically to communicate with humans.

Wolves didn’t.

Dogs get fed expensive food and sleep in warm beds, without ever having to lift a paw to ‘earn’ it.

Who’s stupid, now?

:)


2 posted on 09/16/2015 5:27:28 AM PDT by Salamander (...and He who made kittens, put snakes in the grass...)
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This has got to be true. I’ve only adopted rescue dogs - each and everyone entered my house smart and cunning and exited dumb and happy. I’ve seen it with my own eyes. My current rescue is generally fairly smart but not nearly as smart as she was two years ago when I first adopted her from a hoarding situation. 100 dogs in a NYC apartment!


3 posted on 09/16/2015 5:27:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: C19fan; Joe 6-pack

Defend the honor of dogs ping!


4 posted on 09/16/2015 5:28:18 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: C19fan

I had a puzzle box for my blue heeler. It was a hard rubber sphere that I could unscrew and put treats in. Barkley, who was not particularly food obsessed, enjoyed unscrewing it and getting to the treat. Pretty soon he was able to get into the sphere as fast as I could. He knew more words than any dog I’ve ever owned. Some of them were frisbee, walk, perambulate, gorilla (his favorite toy), toy, Biscuit (our other dog), out, load up, the usual sit, stay, wait. Once when he was about 9 months old, we were camping and two little girls ran through our camp. Being a heeler he nipped at their heels. I chewed him out and told him to go to that camp and apologize. He slunk over, went to the pack leader (the mom) and licked her foot.


5 posted on 09/16/2015 5:30:37 AM PDT by Mercat (The angel of the LORD encamps around those who fear him and delivers them.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Maybe you’re turning them into idiots?

LOL

j/k


6 posted on 09/16/2015 5:32:55 AM PDT by Salamander (...and He who made kittens, put snakes in the grass...)
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To: C19fan

Civilization is doing that to humans, too.


7 posted on 09/16/2015 5:35:17 AM PDT by grania
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To: C19fan

Government makes net benefit recipients stupid, so I guess this is probably true. :)


8 posted on 09/16/2015 5:35:48 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: C19fan

My carin terrier can play ball with my one year old. He uses his paws to bounce it to her. He also has figured out how to open doors, sneak food from my kids, and kill rabbits without my wife finding the carcasses. Oh, and he will guard the kids with his life.

Not saying he is smarter than a wolf, but he has figured out things quite well to live a good life.


9 posted on 09/16/2015 5:36:22 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Salamander

Dogs are able to train humans and this makes them
dumber than wolves?

#doglivesmatter


10 posted on 09/16/2015 5:38:43 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: C19fan

I personally believe the exact opposite at least in the case of some breeds. Anyone who has ever had a Jack Russell Terrier knows that they are anything but lazy thinkers.


11 posted on 09/16/2015 5:38:48 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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So therefore, to keep your smarts and intellect and be a better person, you must forego civilisation, education and be more like feral animals.

Seems to be progressing in the cities according to doctrine...


12 posted on 09/16/2015 5:40:45 AM PDT by Old Sarge (I prep because DHS and FEMA told me it was a good idea...)
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To: tet68

I am seriously contorted on “my” sofa right now because I don’t want to rearrange myself, lest I wake up sleeping Odin.

Yeah, they’re dumb, alright.

;D


13 posted on 09/16/2015 5:41:27 AM PDT by Salamander (...and He who made kittens, put snakes in the grass...)
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To: Salamander
> Dogs learned to bark specifically to communicate with humans. Wolves didn’t. Dogs get fed expensive food and sleep in warm beds, without ever having to lift a paw to ‘earn’ it. Who’s stupid, now? :)

Good point. Mine has me wrapped. He gets fed twice a day, makes me pick up his crap, gets a rubdown daily, and has his own bed.

14 posted on 09/16/2015 5:42:04 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Old Sarge

What’s the average life span of a wild wolf?

Hint: Not long.

Dogs made a good deal.

And so did we.


15 posted on 09/16/2015 5:43:10 AM PDT by Salamander (...and He who made kittens, put snakes in the grass...)
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To: grania
> Civilization is doing that to humans, too.

exhibit 1:

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16 posted on 09/16/2015 5:45:06 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Mercat

My blue heeler “Digger” was absolutely the smartest dog
I’ve ever owned. My shop gate was on wheels and instead
of just pushing it open she would put her paw on the
wheel and roll it open.
When she was a pup, I got down on the floor in a play
posture and she got SOOO excited, “He speaks DOG!”.
Lost her to diabetes.
Got a Jack Russel now and he’s pretty sharp and very
affectionate too.

For a great but sad dog story look up “Hachi Monogatari”
on you tube, about a Japanese Akita.
If you don’t tear up at some point you aren’t a dog lover.


17 posted on 09/16/2015 5:45:59 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Salamander

Lucky Odin.


18 posted on 09/16/2015 5:48:07 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: jsanders2001

I just watched a great show on dogs the other night, which addressed the “barking” issue.

In a nutshell, dogs realized *we* were “too stupid” to understand their rich, amazingly complex body language so they literally learned to shout at us, to get us to listen.

Dogs can learn hundreds of human words, correctly associating each word with an action or object.

We can *vaguely* guess what each particular bark “means”.

[except “I want....” to which we answer “And so ye shall receive”] :)


19 posted on 09/16/2015 5:49:03 AM PDT by Salamander (...and He who made kittens, put snakes in the grass...)
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To: Salamander
Who’s stupid, now?

The wolf gets to stay intact.

Of course, if we could grant dogs sentience and give them the option, being hungry and cold and intact versus a life of luxury, they'd probably say "Deal."
20 posted on 09/16/2015 5:49:30 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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