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Did China discover AMERICA? Ancient Chinese script carved into rocks may prove Asians lived in New W
Daily Mail ^ | July 9, 2015 | RICHARD GRAY

Posted on 07/09/2015 4:50:03 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

The discovery of the Americas has for centuries been credited to the Italian explorer Christopher Columbus, but ancient markings carved into rocks around the US could require history to be rewritten.

Researchers have discovered ancient scripts that suggest Chinese explorers may have discovered America long before Europeans arrived there.

They have found pictograms etched into the rocks around the country that appear to belong of an ancient Chinese script.

John Ruskamp, a retired chemist and amateur epigraph researcher from Illinois, discovered the unusual markings while walking in the Petroglyph National Monument in Albuquerque,

He claims they indicate ancient people from Asia were present in the Americas around 1,300BC – nearly 2,800 years before Columbus's ships stumbled across the New World by reaching the Caribbean in 1492.

He said: 'These ancient Chinese writings in North America cannot be fake, for the markings are very old as are the style of the scripts.

'As such the findings of this scientific study confirm that ancient Chinese people were exploring and positively interacting with the Native peoples over 2,500 years ago.

'The pattern of the finds suggests more of an expedition than settlement.'

However, his controversial views have been met with scepticism by many experts who point to the lack of archaeological evidence for any ancient Chinese presence in the New World.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: albuquerque; ancientnavigation; ccp; china; christophercolumbus; discovery; epigraphyandlanguage; godsgravesglyphs; illinois; johnruskamp; newmexico; newworld; olmec; olmecs; petroglyphs; shang
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To: Fractal Trader

Yea whatever.


21 posted on 07/09/2015 5:09:42 PM PDT by slouper (LWRC SPR 223)
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To: Fractal Trader

Kon-Tiki


22 posted on 07/09/2015 5:11:10 PM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Fractal Trader

If they did, it was only Columbus who informed the rest of the world this awesome place exists and it stayed that way...

Luckily, he didn’t plant The Flag of Dixie on this great land or he would be erased from memory, never to be spoke of again and made completely irrelevant


23 posted on 07/09/2015 5:12:15 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Fractal Trader
in this day of attempts to give human rights to animals, you guys are all wrong.

America was discovered by a fellow named Harry Mastadon. . . He can't help if that he always gets frozen by stage fright when asked to speak before large groups, so he just didn't announce it. Besides, brushing his tusks takes so long he keeps missing the meeting of the Siberian Chapter of the Paleolithic Geographic Society where he was scheduled to make his announcement of what is on the other side of that land bridge. . .

24 posted on 07/09/2015 5:14:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker ( This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: SpaceBar

“1421”

Thanks, got it on order from my library.


25 posted on 07/09/2015 5:18:59 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Maybe we should give it back to the Vikings. Let Sharpton make his reparations case to them. :)


26 posted on 07/09/2015 5:19:32 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves (Heteropatriarchal Capitalist)
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To: Smokin' Joe
And Asian people were here thousands of years before the Vikes. They crossed the Bering Strait.

That is why an Eskimo in the north looks a lot like a Chilean to the south.

27 posted on 07/09/2015 5:33:00 PM PDT by deadrock (I is someone else.)
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To: Fractal Trader

well maybe but they certainly didn’t capitalize on the discovery. we did. and they discovered gunpowder but someone else put it in front of a bullet and they discovered pasta but look at what the Italians did with that. when you go ino a chinese restaurant all you see is noodles.


28 posted on 07/09/2015 5:34:40 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: cripplecreek
They stayed around long enough to mine 1-2 billion lbs of copper in upper Michigan over a thousand years.
29 posted on 07/09/2015 5:40:59 PM PDT by zek157
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To: deadrock

I’ve seen indigenous people in Taiwan that dress in the ancient customs - eerily similar to North American Indians


30 posted on 07/09/2015 5:43:30 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: SpaceBar

You would probably like Barry Fell too. Many were here prior to Columbus. The Basques fished the Grand Bankss for centuries prior to chris.


31 posted on 07/09/2015 5:43:52 PM PDT by zek157
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To: deadrock

In 1910, researchers found Roman artifacts in Arizona


32 posted on 07/09/2015 5:44:25 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: A_Former_Democrat
Time for the Redskins to blame the Chinese then instead of European/White Men

I don't think the Chinese perpetrated the Sand Creek Massacre or Custer's attack on Black Kettle's camp on the Washita River. They didn't perpetuate the Wounded Knee Massacre or the Gnadenhutten Massacre, a massacre of 96 Lenape Indians who were killed only because they were Indians. Before the white militiamen killed them, the Christian Lenapes prayed to Jesus.

And the Chinese certainly didn't carry out the Andrew Jackson Death Marches, often called the Trail(s) of Tears. (If there was a Bataan Death March, then there were Andrew Jackson Death Marches, which were hundreds of miles long. By contrast, the Bataan Death March was 65 miles long.)
33 posted on 07/09/2015 5:46:03 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: SevenofNine

I think they may have come via the northern access (at the time)through Canada but never came south of Wisconsin.

I also think it’s likely that a ship from India landed near where the original colonists landed and long before they did.

Might explain the unusual Indian tribes the colonists found on the east coast when they landed...but I am certainly no expert on this..just stuff I have read.


34 posted on 07/09/2015 5:47:17 PM PDT by Cold Heat (For Rent....call 1-555-tagline)
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To: Fractal Trader
Did the Chinese discover America? Most likely from what I've seen. At least in semi-modern times. I'd have to say the folks who walked across the Bering land bridge discovered it before that though. On the other hand, the Chinese didn't seem to do anything with it did they?
35 posted on 07/09/2015 5:49:37 PM PDT by zeugma (The best defense against a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun)
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To: atc23
In 1910, researchers found Roman artifacts in Arizona

It was a hoax.

36 posted on 07/09/2015 5:52:14 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: Fractal Trader

Look. This is how it happened. A few thousand years ago, Some native American kids were bored one day. While painting pictures of aliens and ufos, they made some chicken scratch doodles on the rock. Years passed and the degradation of the chicken scratches got weathered into a mess of lines that resemble chinese words. Remember this guy is an “ amateur”so he reads the pictographs much like a Rorschach ink blot. He doesnt get a professional chinese linguist to come read it and render an expert opinion.


37 posted on 07/09/2015 5:53:48 PM PDT by Redcitizen
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To: Bryanw92
You didn’t really DISCOVER something if you forget that you discovered it.

I read of a Chinese explorer ca 2200 BC claim that after a long voyage he came to a land (Fusang) that had a spectacular mountain and was covered with forests. A couple of centuries later, an emperor read his report, declared it a fantasy and ordered it destroyed, but a few copies were saved.

Some years ago researchers used his narrative and said his "spectacular mountain" was Mount Hood and his trip could be traced down to California using his landmarks and rate of travel between them. They were intrigued by his description of coming to a "great chasm" in the land when they went inland and speculated that he might have seen the Grand Canyon. A Helluva long haul, but you never know.

If all of this is true, his discovery was not forgotten, just ridiculed, which is even worse than being forgotten. Lots of books on this interesting theory.

Personally, I think others were here from East and West but were either killed off, absorbed by the locals, or as in the Fusang case, not believed and discarded. I would think mitochondrial DNA among the Indians here might prove it conclusively one way or the other.

38 posted on 07/09/2015 5:56:49 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate. [URL=http://media.photobucket.com/user/currencyjunkie/me)
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To: righttackle44

You’re kidding, right?

Tell us, please . . if the white man had not “discovered America” and instead, eventually the Chinese or Japanese did . .

How many American Indians do you think would be alive today?

I’ll await your answer . .


39 posted on 07/09/2015 5:57:42 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (The First Amendment = Freedom of Religion = Religious Liberty = Applies to Everyone)
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To: zek157

I read Menzez’ ‘1421’ shortly after it came out. Quite good.


40 posted on 07/09/2015 5:57:51 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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