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This Snowstorm Fiasco OUGHT to be a Lesson to OPPOSE the Nanny State [Don't waste a crisis!]
1/27/15 | sff

Posted on 01/27/2015 9:04:41 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

Looking at the glorious NON-EVENT that was this BS blizzard, I ask that we conservatives teach our friends how to see the dangers of the nanny state.

Think about it....media, politicians and "scientists" in the government all worked together to SHUT DOWN commerce, freedom of movement, etc.

I know this would be easy to let them off the hook and say "Well, they did their best, better safe than sorry, etc."

I think, however, that this splendidly demonstrates that these entities think of themselves as overlords who KNOW better than their citizenry how to conduct themselves in a potential crisis.

I grew up where schools shut down if the weather was REALLY REALLY bad, but NEVER did we have a governor threaten us with arrest or tell us to not open our business.

The American pioneers would laugh in the face of Cuomo, Malloy, Christie, and the rest. We should too.


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1 posted on 01/27/2015 9:04:41 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Their weather models suck, but their climate models are completely accurate you ignorant, racist, tea-bagging climate-change deniers!


2 posted on 01/27/2015 9:07:41 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the fascists.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Atlanta tried it your way last winter. Didn't work out so well:


3 posted on 01/27/2015 9:07:47 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is settled science. Are you going to believe your government or your lying eyes?


4 posted on 01/27/2015 9:09:42 AM PST by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Headline at Drudge: “STOCKS WRECKED.” It was the storm, you know.


5 posted on 01/27/2015 9:09:44 AM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

This is settled science. Are you going to believe your government or your lying eyes?


6 posted on 01/27/2015 9:11:26 AM PST by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t blame them. And if Manhattan got six inches, then it’s just as well to get it plowed and dumped in the rivers as soon as possible, without having stuck cars blocking all the thoroughfares.

Better safe than sorry, and I’m sure everyone can use a day off!

As for the weather service, and the weather channels, they are pretty much forced to play the game that way. If they over-estimate, then people are a little upset, but if they underestimate, then people are furious. When they underestimated the lake storm late last year, Andrew Cuomo said he would establish a state weather service, since the commercial ones were no good.

It edged out to sea further than expected. But it could have gone the other way. Meanwhile, I’m not complaining. Less shoveling, less chance of a power outage. Thank God.


7 posted on 01/27/2015 9:14:58 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well ... when the weatherman says that there is maybe up to three feet of snow coming my way ... I am going to be getting ready for it. If the weatherman is wrong, it’s no big deal.

However, the “other way around” ... that is, if I don’t pay attention to their forecast and it happens, then I may end up dead!

Between the two options, I’ll listen to the weatherman’s forecast and take the appropriate measures ... :-) ...


8 posted on 01/27/2015 9:15:41 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: familyop

If it isn’t George Bush, the Jews, or global warming, all bad things are pinned on the polar vortex, sequester, hurricane Sandy, and now the super duper storm of 2015.


9 posted on 01/27/2015 9:15:53 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: dirtboy

How is that different from any other day in Atlanta?


10 posted on 01/27/2015 9:16:25 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Good Muslims, like good Nazis or good liberals, are terrible human beings.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Imagine what will happen in the metro areas when Obama’s malfeasance comes full circle and the nation falls into a catastrophic crisis of production, delivery and confidence. NYC was just a preview.


11 posted on 01/27/2015 9:16:41 AM PST by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: SoFloFreeper
Depends on where you are, I suppose.

I have 28 inches of global warming in my yard, and wind gusts of 70+ mph over a multiple hour span not too far away. I'm amazed I haven't lost power (yet). It's tapering off now, but it's not over.

12 posted on 01/27/2015 9:16:50 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Malort, turning taste-buds into taste-foes for generations.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

But, they gotta keep the streets cleared for the emergency vehicles to respond to all the stranglings caused by people being shut up in their houses for so long.


13 posted on 01/27/2015 9:17:38 AM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Let us remember that the meteorologists have a heck of a time trying to combine the countless variables in order to get an accurate forecast for even a couple of days in the future. They messed this one up, but it is understandable. Even with the help of much experience and constant improvements in their weather models, they can still be wrong.

Now, let’s take some D level physics students who obviously evaded stats 101 and advanced simulation techniques - give them degrees in “climate science” and try to believe that these bozos could forecast our climate years from now. And remember the climate scientist motto, “Never let bad data get in the way of a wanted conclusion.”


14 posted on 01/27/2015 9:18:45 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SoFloFreeper

After panicky New Yorkers stormed their local neighborhood Whole Foods to stock up for the “Blizzard of 2015” which subsequently was revised to merely “The Tempest In A Teapot of 2015”...

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-27/seen-streets-manhattan


15 posted on 01/27/2015 9:19:12 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: jonascord

The weathermen do good around here and I listen to their forecasts of an arriving snowstorm or blizzard, or high winds or tornadoes, etc. I don’t know why you wouldn’t because a century ago, you would have had no idea what was about to hit you, before it was right on top of you!


16 posted on 01/27/2015 9:19:13 AM PST by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t know if it’s the nanny state so much as our obsession with blame. Back in the 90s I was watching a show about hurricanes and at one point they were talking to the guys that issue evacuation warnings. They went into detail on how much of a no win situation they were in, if they called an evacuation and the hurricane didn’t hit there or wasn’t as strong everybody complained they got it wrong, if they didn’t call an evacuation and the region got gut punched everybody wanted to know why they weren’t warned. They tried to err on saving lives, better to evacuate and having nothing bad happen than the reverse. And since then of course we have the Katrina fiasco, which makes that error the necessary one. Plus you’ve got modern TV “news” which feel the need to make everything the biggest baddest scariest whatever it is ever.

This is the situation we’ve created. Instead of blaming the guys doing the best they can to predict the future maybe we should be wondering why we need life to have so much drama.


17 posted on 01/27/2015 9:19:39 AM PST by discostu (The albatross begins with its vengeance A terrible curse a thirst has begun)
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To: SoFloFreeper

It’s not BS from Rhode Island to Maine today. If Boston hadn’t banned driving, the plows wouldn’t be able to clear the roads because of all of the stuck cars.

If you remember the ‘78 blizzard, Boston and Providence were paralyzed for over a week. So... It was probably better to err on the side of caution.

I’m headed out to clear 2.5 feet of snow from my driveway.


18 posted on 01/27/2015 9:22:50 AM PST by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Did they ever give this gigantinormous, super-colossal, megastorm a name? Other than “Nor-Easter”, I mean...


19 posted on 01/27/2015 9:24:51 AM PST by Patriot777 (Imagine....that we could see Obama being hauled out of the White House kicking and screaming?)
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To: SoFloFreeper
When there was a snowstorm raging, our pioneers got around on foot, by animal-pulled sleigh, or they just stayed at home. They did not have to navigate super highways in hunks of steel moving at 60mph or more.

Here is what happens when people shrug off even a coating of snow, and decide that they are going to be "tough men" who aren't going to be slowed down by mother nature.

I'm the first one to rage against nanny government. But this is not a case of nanny government. By keeping the roads in the northeast closed during this snowstorm - or blizzard - not only probably saved lives and personal injury but saved millions of dollars in property damage like the one in the video I linked above (which happened just a couple weeks ago in Michigan).

Closing the public roads during a snowstorm is smart and has nothing to do with taking away our rights. Are our rights violated when schools and businesses close for the same reason?

BTW, I live in the NY area. There were no roadblocks put up last night to arrest or fine people who were out. There were no dragnets or anything like that. The road ban was targeted more at employers who would have otherwise insisted their employees drive to work and we would have had a major debacle on our hands this morning.

As a result, the roads were clear and the snowplows got to do their job. And whether it was two feet of snow or just a few inches of snow, the road is a dangerous place to be when it is going on.

If you own an auto body shop, I can sympathize with you. A lot of your business was lost due to these road shutdowns.

20 posted on 01/27/2015 9:24:54 AM PST by SamAdams76
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