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Vanity: Need Advice on CA Health Insurance
Obama is the source of my problems ^ | 11/30/14 | Self

Posted on 11/30/2014 10:47:47 AM PST by Yaelle

I was a part of my family member's business, and as an employee of this small family business was able to get myself and 4 kids covered by a private insurance company with a great ppo plan though pricy. Every year, this coverage grew more expensive by a couple hundred a month, until this year when it has gone up by $500 a month. I can't afford it and the business will be closing in 2015.

I don't want to join CA Covered because it's ObamaCare. What do any CA FReepers do for insurance when they aren't getting it paid for through a company?

I am supposed to pay $2500 a month for 5 people. I just can't do this.

Can anyone offer some advice: how to not go to places like Kaiser but not break the bank either? I need to make the change now.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: california; health; insurance; obamacare
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Please help. This does keep me up at night. I don't know what the best thing to do is.
1 posted on 11/30/2014 10:47:47 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

>>I don’t want to join CA Covered because it’s ObamaCare. <<

For now, take care of your family. It was obozocare that put you behind the 8 ball so it is no shame to use it to get out from it.

Just plan that it will go away in 2 years. That gives you time to get an employer that can take care of things correctly.

The clock starts now.


2 posted on 11/30/2014 10:50:59 AM PST by freedumb2003 (obozocare: shovel-ready health care)
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To: kaila; artichokegrower; Karliner; Logical me; Regulator; Mastador1

Ping for help


3 posted on 11/30/2014 10:53:28 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Get everything that needs to be taken care of while you have insurance. Then, go commando, no coverage.

For $20 plus thousand you can have lots of stuff taken care of. Cash. Look for a concierge doctor. Or, just go to the local walk-in clinic. (Here, in Florida they cost about $250/visit.)

You won’t be covered if you need your arm sewn back on, but the chances of needing catastrophic care before Obamacare bites the big one (in 2017, I hope) is probably slight.

The absurdity of the Obamacare prices are that each of us now must spend the equivalent each year for a new car just for “coverage.” Very few can afford that. Obamacare will crash and burn and we will go back to something saner.


4 posted on 11/30/2014 10:54:01 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: freedumb2003

Are there people here using CA Care? Is it any good? Do doctors refuse it?

Any doctors in the house?


5 posted on 11/30/2014 10:54:37 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

What is wrong with Kaiser? They do give great care.


6 posted on 11/30/2014 10:55:38 AM PST by kaila
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To: Yaelle

CA Care?

I market health insurance and I am not familiar with that company. If you mean Covered California, then that only referes to the independent companies that participate in the program.

As a general rule, all of the insurance companies have seen a significant reduction in participation of doctors in California.


7 posted on 11/30/2014 10:57:40 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I am dying to go concierge. Buuuuuut, with four kids, one teen who drives, I’m scared of catastrophic needs. Also, this year I needed brain surgery. It might not be over. There isn’t any specialist concierge.

I wish there was such a thing any more as medical savings accounts!


8 posted on 11/30/2014 10:57:56 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: kaila

Too many deaths I know of that seemed like medical neglect. The ability to sue a doctor gives you better care even if you would never sue,


9 posted on 11/30/2014 10:58:51 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

The Leftist media couldn’t write enough stories about the $600 toilet seat bought by the Defense Dept., but they aren’t interested in writing about the $2500/ObamaCare family policy or the cheaper one that comes with a $12,000 deductible. They actually must think Middle Class workers have that kind of money, but they are so wrong.


10 posted on 11/30/2014 10:58:52 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Yaelle

You might take a look at this:

http://samaritanministries.org

It would be on my short list of things to consider if I lost my insurance, but it might not apply to you.


11 posted on 11/30/2014 10:59:38 AM PST by poindexters brother
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To: kaila
What is wrong with Kaiser? They do give great care. For basic care, Kaiser is fine. Depending on the illness, it may be terrible.
12 posted on 11/30/2014 11:00:29 AM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

Whoops, yes I mean Covered CA.

This is your line: what advice would you give me? Best medical care and doctor choice for the buck?


13 posted on 11/30/2014 11:00:33 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: kaila

No they do not. My experience with them has always been negative.


14 posted on 11/30/2014 11:00:33 AM PST by Fungi
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To: kaila

What is wrong with Kaiser? They do give great care.

True... care should still be good for the next couple of years and it is a very reasonable for a family. Figure on moving on in year 3. But you need to have creditable care in the next few years to avoid penalties...

ymmv


15 posted on 11/30/2014 11:00:58 AM PST by ElectionInspector (Molon Labe...)
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To: Yaelle

If Kaiser is covered under Ca Covered ( I live in a different state, so I am unfamiliar with CA Covered)- I would join Kaiser. Kaiser is an HMO, but not a bad one. No point in going bankrupt over this, join Kaiser if covered under Obamacare, and wait this out until Obamacare gets overturned.


16 posted on 11/30/2014 11:01:16 AM PST by kaila
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To: poindexters brother

What a great idea, but I believe you have to be Christian.


17 posted on 11/30/2014 11:02:01 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: txrefugee

Isn’t it sick? We pay so much to be covered in case of emergency but EVEN WITH BRAIN SURGERY THIS YEAR WE PAID OUT MORE THAN IF WE HAD PAID CASH FOR EVERYTHING.


18 posted on 11/30/2014 11:03:22 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle
There isn't any option for individual insurance other than the obamacare defined plans, that was the whole point of the law. The federal government dictates the to the insurance companies what the plans will be. You don't have to buy from coveredca, but even if you go directly to the insurance companies, you will end up buying a obamacare bronze/silver/gold plan.

Insurance is regional, even within CA, so you might as well go to coveredca to see what is available, and for how much, then go buy from the insurance company directly.

19 posted on 11/30/2014 11:03:28 AM PST by Wayne07
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To: kaila

I know that there is “hmo” coverage without having to use the carefully legally not responsible for anything that goes wrong kaiser. But I believe doc’s dont like hmo coverage.

I have called many a specialist to get an appt, and the bulldog lady at the front desk has an attitude with me and asks what insurance I have. When I say Aetna PPO, they get nicer and find me an appt.

What gets me in to all the best docs?


20 posted on 11/30/2014 11:06:49 AM PST by Yaelle
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