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1 posted on 09/28/2014 7:11:51 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

This is why I do not fear overpopulation. Liberals belive in the falsified therories of Malthus that overpopulation is inevitable. Cornicopians belive that despite growing population, we can still provide resources. But there is a third way, predicted by John B. Calhoun, that our populations will enevitably collapse on their owm, without reaching resource limits. This is what is beginning to happen all around the world now. Japan is the leader, but soon it will happen all over. In China they lifted the one child ban, but the birth rate did not rise. It will not reach replacement level again in China.


2 posted on 09/28/2014 7:23:32 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: SeekAndFind

The longer one stays single, the more difficult it is to find a life’s partner.


3 posted on 09/28/2014 7:25:25 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: SeekAndFind

When I was young, I wanted to be married. After seeing what has happened to many of my married friends, I really don’t see much “up side.”


7 posted on 09/28/2014 7:30:57 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SeekAndFind

>>because single people don’t usually make as much as a married couple can<<

I think married couples who both work is a cultural and societal aberration that should never be celebrated.

Such couples sacrifice their children on the altar of selfishness.

IOW: No surprise given such destructive “ideals” as “gay marriage” (which will soon translate to polygamy and polyandry).

Thanks Gen Y and Millenials.


8 posted on 09/28/2014 7:35:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Zimmerman, Brown, Fast & Furious, IRS harassment, Philly ignorance: holdering in 1st degree)
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Plenty of single people sincerely wish for our nation to thrive. This narrative sounds somewhat panicky.
9 posted on 09/28/2014 7:37:34 PM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, there’s married and there’s reproducing, right gay couples? Not necessarily the same thing. And hetero women aren’t going to marry a man who can’t hold a steady job and in Obama’s America, how many single young men have steady jobs? Plus there are a lot of free cows providing milk out there so there’s less incentive to want to pay for a cow. You see how liberalism has destroyed the family yet?

But don’t worry. I see little black and latin babies all over because their mothers know the government will raise their children. It’s only the white women who still cling to this idea of a male provider in the home. The minorities have Uncle Sap as their daddy.


10 posted on 09/28/2014 7:41:30 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, with a 50% divorce rate, or whatever it is, now, what can you expect? We’re being told that marriage doesn’t mean anything, and that it’s wrong to expect people to have standards. Open-marriages, spouse-trading, polygamy etc. Make marriage a meaningless institution.


12 posted on 09/28/2014 7:43:48 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Power always thinks.. that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws. -John Adams)
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To: SeekAndFind

“That will influence how much money they spend and what they buy.”

Because we live and die by a CONSUMER Economy. Sad.


16 posted on 09/28/2014 7:55:01 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Until recently, men were expected to be breadwinners and there was a real shame attached to still living with your parents after your early twenties. Nowadays, you have men in their late twenties and even their thirties hanging around their parents house in hockey jerseys, sneakers and ball caps, having their friends over to "watch the game" where they will high-five each other and generally act like they are still in junior high.

They are constantly cycling through dead-end jobs. A stint at a Home Depot followed by a gig at Radio Shack and then maybe a month or two delivering pizzas - until their car breaks down and they have to quit because they can't afford to get it fixed. You get the picture. They are perpetual adolescents - overgrown kids.

Not sure what the answer is. Our culture has by and large emasculated the American male and I'm not sure how we are going to get our masculinity back.


17 posted on 09/28/2014 8:02:00 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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I knew a girl around 21 years ago who was just out of high school. We worked together and she lived next door to me.

She was one of those girls we all have known. Prom Queen, Queen of everything else, 4 years a cheerleader, named “sweetest’ and rightfully so. She was a devoted Christian yet had gotten involved in sex.

I thought the best thing for her would to get married but she wanted a career first. Around the age of 37 she finally did get married and she was still pretty enough to attract a wealthy guy.

I noticed they have a baby and from the pictures I think the baby may just have a bit of Down’s Syndrome. I can’t be sure but she does look a little that way. Of course I am sure she loves the baby but it would have been so much better if she had gotten married at 20 and had her babies then.


18 posted on 09/28/2014 8:03:19 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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Well, what did y’all expect, when you pretty much outlawed fatherhood? Dating, even in the 1970s...oooo, that smell!

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20 posted on 09/28/2014 8:17:59 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It leads to the demands the government saddles the future generations with a tremendous amount of debt, after all, they aren’t going to have any offspring to suffer the consequences from it.


23 posted on 09/28/2014 8:22:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (The "Fire Muschamp" tagline is back!)
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To: SeekAndFind

you have to be wise to get married and stay married.

but wisdom does not come naturally to most.

It has to be taught and retaught and retaught again and again.

The structures for doing that are not extant in the society as they once were.


24 posted on 09/28/2014 8:22:58 PM PDT by ckilmer (q)
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The proximate cause of extended bachelorhood is understandable for anyone who has raised dogs. If you raise a puppy without frequently providing it interaction with other dogs, by the time it is adult, it will still want to mate, but will see other dogs as “the enemy”.

It will not have any way of relating to them.

Children are much the same. Adults set two priorities for children: that their time be occupied to the point where the children are exhausted and have no free time; and that their children are too busy to interact with children of the opposite gender.

Parents assume that their children get this interaction “in school and in church”. But they do not, because they are kept busy doing other things.

There is NO social system in the US for children to interact in a safe, chaperoned environment, where the purpose of the place is cross gender interaction, not anything else.

Instead, after segregation until age 18, suddenly children are supposed to spontaneously date, get married, get jobs, have children and mortgage a home.

With the extra added bonus of being deeply in debt from their school loans.

Not going to happen. And it is not happening all over the place.

The real icing on the cake is the entertainment industry doing its level best to portray marriage as a life destroying, energy sucking, miserable monster, that takes away all fun, and leaves the couple hating each other and wanting to divorce, so they can make other people miserable as well. (insert laugh track here)


30 posted on 09/28/2014 8:51:45 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: SeekAndFind
One problem is how much misandry is in our society; if you're a man you can expect that the "male qualities" of jobs will be undervalued (which is where men tend to identify: with their job), it also shows how weighted the system is against them (think about divorce settlements), and lastly consider how it is when simply being a man is cause for concern (e.g. contrast your gut reaction on these two phrases: there's a strange man in the park watching the children and there's a strange woman in the park watching the children).
31 posted on 09/28/2014 8:57:00 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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What we see is the result of the 24/7 marketing of “evil” to the children on MSM and through the public “education” institutions and getting women away from their young children—and destroying the home. They are conditioning children to have a certain “worldview” (white males are oppressive and evil; dumb women are homemakers; white males are stupid—so they discard the ideology of our brilliant Founding Fathers. Culture demeans Virtue and elevates Vice and embeds it intentionally into children.

Edward Bernays perfected “conditioning” in early 1900s, and used psychology to force concepts tied to emotions, on the masses (herd instinct). He created methods for people to discard Reason and become addicts and consumers all by controlling the “perceptions” of the masses-—by pictures, music, photos.

The Leftists have been controlling Language (Words) for one hundred years and as the Marxists and Wittgenstein knew in 1900: He who controls the Language controls the worldview of the masses.

Amish don’t grow up with our “worldview” because they don’t allow the minds of their children to be poisoned and directed to irrational, unnatural evil.
Faith is natural and you can’t eject it from human beings—it always exists..... so some “faith” is taught and inculcated into every child by the minute he can use his senses. The “faith” being forced on children in America is Marxism—a collective “group think” to destroy Christian Ethics which created Individual Natural Rights from God. (Christianity is incompatible with Marxism).

Marxism is the worldview that Common Core and all the curricula since the 60s has been pumping into heads of children, and MSM since Archie Bunker:

Wikipedias explanation of BRAVE NEW WORLD by Huxley....

” In his future world, recreational sex is an integral part of society. According to the World State, sex is a social activity, rather than a means of reproduction (sex is encouraged from early childhood). The few women who can reproduce are conditioned to use birth control, even wearing a “Malthusian belt” (which resembles a bandolier and holds “the regulation supply of contraceptives”) as a popular fashion accessory. The maxim “everyone belongs to everyone else” is repeated often, and the idea of a “family” is considered pornographic; sexual competition and emotional, romantic relationships are rendered obsolete because they are no longer needed. Marriage, natural birth, parenthood, and pregnancy are considered too obscene to be mentioned in casual conversation. Thus, society has developed a new idea of reproductive comprehension.”

Marxism is the total dehumanization of Man—it eliminates Free Will and Choice and controls every single thought and idea put into everyone. It removes all elements which make man above animal (image of God) so that the person can be eliminated by the State.

No biological connection can exist because people will “feel” more “loyalty” to relatives-—and you can’t have unequal anything. The concept of Mother and Father needs to be erased along with ALL natural instincts in children. Girls are conditioned to kill their own genetic offspring and hate males—and males are taught to kill females (combat) and to treat them as “equal”-—to destroy that Christian concept which created Romance and Chivalry and Individualism and ownership—private property concepts. Everything is communal—even sex and children.


38 posted on 09/28/2014 9:28:20 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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If being married and having kids was an essential part of the American dream, and most young people are no longer getting married or having kids, then is America really America anymore?

Do we spend the next twenty years preaching at the young to get married and have kids? Or do we sit back and recognize that our country is no more and spend more time looking after our families and friends and less time caring about what happens to Amerika?

39 posted on 09/28/2014 9:42:29 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: SeekAndFind

I think it’s all a matter of poor economics and family unit breakdown. Todays’ poor economic climate makes it hard to get married and support a family, particularly at a young age. The family unit no longer exists due to many factors and people do not stay married through tough times.

When I was a kid, kids seemed to mature faster and wanted to leave home at an earlier age. They were getting married while still in high school. They were eager to fly the nest and make a life for themselves.

All they needed was a high school diploma, OJT training, or a skill (technical HS). There were lots of opportunities to earn money (both part-time and full-time) which made supporting a family possible. Family ties were strongly maintained, and marriages endured during the tough times. Also, a divorce was not so easy to obtain, it was a last resort.

There was an American Dream many tried to pursue. Acquiring wealth and keeping up with the Jones next door was the goal of many a family. To fully participate, they need someone to share the wealth, so marriage (male-female kind) was necessary. Married couples acquired wealth faster than singles.

Today, kids do not have the same situations, opportunities, and outlook on life as earlier generations. They are reluctant to leave the warm safe nest except to go to college to earn a useless degree and acquire a huge student loan debt. Then they return to the nest when they fail to get the dream job or maintain the expected lifestyle.

They see little benefit for themselves in marriage and many never get married. Those that marry, do so at a later age when they feel they can afford it. Many find it hard to commit themselves, sacrifice, and live with others. A divorce is easily obtained and many become working single-parent households. With todays’ declining economics, many of them are returning to the nest in mid-life and even later.

These are my opinions based on my experiences. Your mileage may vary.


42 posted on 09/28/2014 11:25:03 PM PDT by Texicanus (Texas, it's a whole 'nother country.)
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As a single man with a business here’s my opinion. The author, R.J. Moeller, can kma.

I am not breeding stock to ensure the continuation of someone’s belief in what society should be. It is not my responsibility to have children so there are more tax payers to fund welfare programs. It is not my responsibility to have a wife so that we can buy more stuff and make different investments so some company can grow. RJ Moeller’s breakdown of marriage as some important part of maintaining a society that relies and dopes who get married and spend for the sake of marrying and spending on his approved items is tiring. In his eyes we are all nothing more than cogs in a ‘great society’ with no reason to think of ourseleves or our marriage.

Furthermore in this modern society he laments for which we must become breeding stock and purchasers as a married couples he completely ignores the reality of marriage. It is a raw deal for men. Yes flame away at that but there is no denying family courts largely assume the worst of men and will destroy their lives even if they don’t have children. When your reward for assuming the role of becoming breeding stock and a spender to maintain RJ Moeller’s society is what many divorced men in my family and circle of friends is to be raked over the coals through a man hating family court is it any wonder why people don’t want to get married?

On the good side. I like that there are lots of single women out there when I’m at the pub enjoying the micro-brew that RJ Moeller complains about. When he believes I should be buying car-seats and barbies I’m much happier buying pints of IPA. I’ve busted my butt getting my business up and running and now expanding in to Poland.

By the way. Any of you freepers who do want to meet a great woman should start traveling.


44 posted on 09/28/2014 11:53:50 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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I’m 33, single, and not overly interested in getting married. I have a job I like, a home I love, and I value my solitude. I’m in a committed relationship couple of years with a great guy who went through an acrimonious divorce and who isn’t overly anxious to try it again. If I marry, I marry. If I don’t, I don’t. But I don’t think my life would be any richer or fuller if I married for the sake of marriage alone.


48 posted on 09/29/2014 4:10:32 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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