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15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense
Scientific American ^ | June, 2002 | John Rennie

Posted on 08/12/2014 8:09:40 PM PDT by JimSEA

When Charles Darwin introduced the theory of evolution through natural selection 143 years ago, the scientists of the day argued over it fiercely, but the massing evidence from paleontology, genetics, zoology, molecular biology and other fields gradually established evolution's truth beyond reasonable doubt. Today that battle has been won everywhere--except in the public imagination.

Embarrassingly, in the 21st century, in the most scientifically advanced nation the world has ever known, creationists can still persuade politicians, judges and ordinary citizens that evolution is a flawed, poorly supported fantasy. They lobby for creationist ideas such as "intelligent design" to be taught as alternatives to evolution in science classrooms. As this article goes to press, the Ohio Board of Education is debating whether to mandate such a change. Some antievolutionists, such as Philip E. Johnson, a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley and author of Darwin on Trial, admit that they intend for intelligent-design theory to serve as a "wedge" for reopening science classrooms to discussions of God.

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: adverecundiam; callinggodaliar; creationist; evolution; johnrennie; stirringthepot
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To: Parody

Who disproved piltdown man, scientists perhaps? It was a hoax. The others, I have no idea as they don’t reference anything.


61 posted on 08/12/2014 8:57:54 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: JimSEA

You can be a very good Christian and believe in Evolution.

You can be a great scientist and believe in intelligent design.

God has a sense of humor and he is laughing at all of us. Nobody knows exactly what happened.


62 posted on 08/12/2014 8:58:07 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kozak
So based on your logic where did that designer come from?

Isa 57:15 For thus says the One who is high and lifted up, who inhabits eternity, whose name is Holy: I dwell in the high and holy place, and also with him who is of a contrite and lowly spirit, to revive the spirit of the lowly, and to revive the heart of the contrite.

Inhabiting eternity indicates being outside our time domain, outside of our past, present and future. Similar to a programer of a computer universe who is outside the program and dictates the physics, time flow and organization of what is real within the program.

63 posted on 08/12/2014 8:58:23 PM PDT by bondserv (God governs our reality and has seen fit to offer us a pardon.)
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To: freedumb2003

You could have answered the question instead. What’s scientific about said theory? You don’t start with a conclusion and seek observations that might fit it, since it prejudices how you perceive the observation; that is unscientific at its core. Never mind the lack of observation of phenomena related to the conclusion. Cart before the horse.

Contrast atomic theory. Observation is that all substances reduce to increasingly-smaller size of particles; hypothesis is that there is an endpoint for matter to be divided in said fashion. That theory was started from the right end.


64 posted on 08/12/2014 9:00:05 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Lady Heron

>>Put your faith in a theory (because it is faith to believe in a theory(an idea without proof)) or God....I Chose God!<<

You really don’t know what a Scientific Theory is, do you? Hint: It isn’t a “guess all grown up.”

The ignorance on FR is quite vexing so much of the time.


65 posted on 08/12/2014 9:00:21 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: eekitsagreek

Evolution doesn’t point toward perfectibility, only survival. Perfection is normative and in the provence of values. That’s theology, not science.


66 posted on 08/12/2014 9:00:40 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: bondserv

That’s not an answer.


67 posted on 08/12/2014 9:00:40 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: JimSEA
15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense

I checked. That's actually the title of the article.

I have read much of the debate between Einstein and Bohr about quantum mechanics. The two were on completely different sides of the argument.

But never once did Einstein publish a paper entitled "Stupid Bohr has got it all wrong." And never once did Bohr publish a paper entitled "Einstein's thinking is idiotic."

But that was back when scientific debate was encouraged. Scientific American has forfeited its standing as a scientific journal. It is now just another propaganda rag.

68 posted on 08/12/2014 9:00:41 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: dr_lew

sorry, if life comes about by chance, it means nothing. morals mean nothing. our experiences mnean nothing. chance that creates life is no different than chance that destroys all life. there’s zero meaning to anything.


69 posted on 08/12/2014 9:01:12 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kansas58

That’s the wrong perception of God. He laughs at those who mock Him.


70 posted on 08/12/2014 9:01:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: JimSEA
Creationism is a religious belief. No amount of evidence or logic can compete with a religious belief.

I think that Hillary Clinton summed it up best. “At this point, what difference does it make?”

Good Hunting… from Varmint Al

71 posted on 08/12/2014 9:01:38 PM PDT by Varmint Al
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To: Secret Agent Man

Correct.


72 posted on 08/12/2014 9:02:03 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Kozak

The “Designer” always was and always will be.

Otherwise there would be no Prime Mover.

Secular Evolution is constrained by time and space.

God is not.


73 posted on 08/12/2014 9:02:41 PM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: GraceG

What does government have to do with the theory of evolution. Nothing I think.


74 posted on 08/12/2014 9:02:47 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: boycott

Evolution has nothing, zero, nada to do with the Big Bang or even the creation of life. It deals with what has come after.


75 posted on 08/12/2014 9:05:18 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: freedumb2003

Ignorance? So is the godlessness.

Valid scientific theory incorporates facts, tested hypotheses, observations and laws. What laws does evolutionary theory incorporate, never mind any tested hypotheses? Scientific theories fall down flat all the time.


76 posted on 08/12/2014 9:05:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: JimSEA

Really? Then why did it need to be pushed by government?


77 posted on 08/12/2014 9:06:10 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

>>You could have answered the question instead. What’s scientific about said theory? You don’t start with a conclusion and seek observations that might fit it, since it prejudices how you perceive the observation; that is unscientific at its core. Never mind the lack of observation of phenomena related to the conclusion. Cart before the horse.<<

You, along with many, don’t know what a Scientific Theory is.

You can opine until the cows come home but your sophistry does not change the fact you have no idea what we are talking about.

Nice try though. I give you a B+ on the BS o meter.


78 posted on 08/12/2014 9:06:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (AGW "Scientific method:" Draw your lines first, then plot your points)
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To: G Larry

So your idea of a logical scientific explanation. Begins and ends with a supernatural event?
That’s religion not science.


79 posted on 08/12/2014 9:09:41 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: freedumb2003
Funny you keep repeating the phrase “you don’t know what a scientific theory is” while not deigning to explain what you think it is—unless you fear disagreement over your definition. What is your scientific background, if I may inquire?

Nothing I mentioned is opinion, BTW. It is the history of the theory of evolution. It started with Darwin’s prejudice:
I gradually came to disbelieve in Christianity as a divine revelation. …
Scientists are supposed to be objective. Here, Darwin clearly was not.
80 posted on 08/12/2014 9:10:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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