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Ebola Surveillance Thread
Free Republic Threads ^ | August 10, 2014 | Legion

Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe

I have spent a little time compiling links to threads about the Ebola outbreak in the interest of having all the links in one thread for future reference.

Please add links to new threads and articles of interest as the situation develops.

Thank You all for you participation.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
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To: ElenaM

http://awoko.org/2014/10/13/sierra-leone-news-ebola-survivor-infects-wife-to-death/

Sad story.


4,341 posted on 10/19/2014 7:24:35 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: SE Mom

as a young nurse, I took the code of not talking about peoples’ health problems in the hospital to heart....I didn’t even tell my mom that her sister was in the hospital on my ward,after having surgery....I just take it that seriously.


4,342 posted on 10/19/2014 7:58:11 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry

btw, Hippa is just a rouse.....its actually a permission slip for everybody in the insurance world and the medical world and even the legal world to get your private records...but don’t you dare ask about your own mother or father...verboten...


4,343 posted on 10/19/2014 8:00:08 PM PDT by cherry
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To: Black Agnes

Yeah, I saw that earlier. As if Ebola isn’t bad enough, we now have the specter of Ebola becoming the next HIV in terms of people refusing to control their sexual urges and passing it to others in that manner. We’ve seen this play before and it hasn’t ended well in previous iterations.

(sigh) The world is just insane.


4,344 posted on 10/20/2014 4:53:31 AM PDT by ElenaM
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To: Covenantor
The last information is that the disease is believed endemic in the bat populations, even though they remain asymptomatic. The burn out of the previous outbreaks was not due to human efforts but because of a natural break in the chain of contact and IIRC the reduced virulence of x generations of the transmitted virus.

The previous outbreaks were in rural areas.

Imagine 'Captain Tripps' in a small US town a hundred years ago (No, not 10,000 people, more like 200). People were not as mobile, and by the time the disease was discovered (first cases symptomatic), the whole town (or nearly so) had it. Before spreading it to neighboring towns, those who were going to die, died.

That pretty much put an end to the other outbreaks, with some help from doctors (once the disease was recognized) and others limiting travel.

This outbreak made it to the big city, and a much more mobile population.

The current policy of leaving our borders open to the disease, exposing our large and highly mobile population to a disease with a long incubation period and highly lethal results is patent insanity.

4,345 posted on 10/20/2014 5:12:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
The Incompetence Virus

Protective-gear protocol revised for handling Ebola patients

How the feds block Ebola cures

Obola: Visual Attacks on Obama Pick Up Right Where Kenya/Muslim Slurs Left Off

(call a waaahmbulance)

Current Global Ebola Outbreak Traced Back to 2-y.o. Child Fed Infected Bat-Meat in Guinea…

“Incompetence or Willful Misdirection”? [Ebola]

Rumors Persist That Nina Pham’s Boyfriend Is ‘Secretly’ Hospitalized With Ebola

Ebola Nurse Nina Pham’s Boyfriend Rumored Admitted To Hospital With Ebola-Like Symptoms

Plans in place to make new hospital primary Ebola facility (TX)

Truthsnark: You’ll love this perfect Photoshop of Obama’s Ebola task force

In U.S., an Ebola crisis of confidence (by LA Times Editorial Board)

No illness detected in Ebola patient's fiancee, family

After Golfing, Obama Holds Late Ebola Meeting - Guess Who Missed It (Again)!

New CDC Ebola guidelines will be "more stringent," NIH expert says

Ted Cruz Schools Candy Crowley on Travel Ban From Hot Zone Ebola Countries

Ted Cruz: Obama’s Public Health Experts Can’t Be Trusted

Pols Rip President Obama’s Choice for Ebola Czar

Ebola crisis: Spanish nurse tests negative for virus

CDC to Revise Ebola Protocol, Pentagon Preps Team [ CDC Protocols used in Dallas were wrong ]

Is Obama Planning to Flood the System With Foreign Ebola Patients?

Texas Health Resources’ CEO Apologizes For Ebola Response

The Democrats’ embarrassing attempt to blame Republican for Ebola collapses

Liberian woman escapes Ebola outbreak, quarantines self in Q-C

Military preps team for Ebola response in US

How has Liberia’s President Responded to Ebola? By Taking Extra Powers

Friends, family of Ebola patient reach milestone

A Liberian professor in U.S. is telling Liberians that the Defense Department ‘manufactured’ Ebola

Killing Confidence in Our Government

4,346 posted on 10/20/2014 6:09:45 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Flawed Ebola protocols left U.S. nurses vulnerable, health official says

Ebola outbreak in Central America + open borders = disaster (Ted Cruz speaks)

First US Ebola Victim, Thomas Eric Duncan, Remembered for Compassion (AFRO Reports)

CDC Gave $25 Mil in Bonuses, Had No Money for “No Exposed Skin” Ebola Guidelines

4,347 posted on 10/20/2014 10:02:48 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
The real lesson of Ebola in Dallas: this virus is very difficult to spread

I'll wait until 42 days have passed...

4,348 posted on 10/20/2014 10:07:42 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2014/10/20/Harvard-Imposes-Travel-Restrictions-on-Ebola-Countries


Several public health experts from Harvard have opposed travel bans as a matter of policy, including epidemiologist John Brownstein and former School of Public Health dean Barry R. Bloom, who reportedly said that “he couldn’t think of any reason why the U.S. would benefit from a travel ban.”

I will give Mr. Bloom 2 reasons... Nina Pham and Amber Vinson


4,349 posted on 10/20/2014 10:51:32 AM PDT by freespirit2012
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To: freespirit2012

White House deletes Ebola petition:

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/general-strike-response-federal-governments-inaction-ebola-crisis/j9wrQmKN

Thanks for your interest in We the People, a new tool on WhiteHouse.gov that allows all Americans to ask the Obama Administration to take action on a range of important issues facing our country.

The petition you are trying to access has been removed from the site under our Moderation Policy because it is in violation of our Terms of Participation.

While you can’t sign this petition, there may be other petitions on We the People on a similar issue that you’d like to add your name to. Or, you can create your own petition.


4,350 posted on 10/20/2014 12:14:25 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

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Fort Campbell Troops On Ebola Mission to West Africa Won’t Get Full Protective Gear

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3217516/posts

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4,351 posted on 10/20/2014 2:16:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Smokin' Joe
You might want to check out this thread on the AvianFluTalk forum:

Ebola airborne stability

I have not checked out the source materials cited, although I was already familiar with some of it. The part I am familiar with checks out. However, this is really explosive "stuff", and it ALL needs to check out before it should be considered credible.

I'm at work and can't spend that much more time on it right now, but here's a boiled down version of what it says:

1. The U.S. Army believes Ebola is just as stable as influenza A in the air.
2. The U.S. Army believes spread through the air is most optimal in the winter.

My comment (not in the article): Ebola typically does not result in as much coughing as influenza. Likewise, at least early in the course of the disease, the virus might not be present in the lungs. Hence it is less likely to be ejected into the air.

Thoughts?

4,352 posted on 10/20/2014 2:22:25 PM PDT by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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To: EternalHope

Since EVD is present in saliva, ie nose mouth, sneezing or coughing will carry it on expulsion.


4,353 posted on 10/20/2014 3:04:03 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Covenantor
Since EVD is present in saliva, ie nose mouth, sneezing or coughing will carry it on expulsion.

I know.

The issue has been how well it survives in the air, and how long it hangs in the air once the tiny liquid droplets dry.

It's known that "fomites" (essentially, what's left when a droplet dries out) can survive quite a while. If you breathe one of these in, and it lands on a cell Ebola is capable of infecting, you are most likely going to get Ebola.

4,354 posted on 10/20/2014 3:45:34 PM PDT by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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To: Covenantor
As of 2217 EDT 10/20/14, the new PPE recommendations are still forthcoming.

What on earth is hanging them up???

4,355 posted on 10/20/2014 7:17:32 PM PDT by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: Jim Noble

CDC DELETES controversial guidelines for hospital hazmat suits to battle Ebola

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2800577/cdc-deletes-recommendations-hospital-hazmat-suits-ebola-virus-continues-spread.html

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention quietly deleted its advice to hospitals on Sunday covering what kind of ‘personal protective equipment’ – the hazmat suits known as PPE – health care workers should wear around possible or confirmed Ebola patients.
The changes to the CDC’s website were made Saturday, the same day the embattled agency issued new overall guidelines about what kind of care Ebola sufferers should receive in hospitals.


4,356 posted on 10/20/2014 8:45:23 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Black Agnes

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2800282/german-clinic-scraps-two-machines-worth-1m-suspected-ebola-patient-threw-didn-t-deadly-virus.html

“German clinic forced to scrap two machines worth £1m because Ebola patient vomited on them”

So the respirator and dialysis machine at Texas Pres are toast as well then.


4,357 posted on 10/20/2014 8:54:45 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: freespirit2012
It appears Harvard epidemiologists and former Deans of Schools of Public Health are looking at the potential fodder for papers and studies for years to come, provided enough Americans get sick.

What relevance! Just think of the grants!

I'm being sarcastic, but, then, I'm not.

If these people can't think of a reason, perhaps they should be studying the epidemic of abject stupidity in the ranks of academia. Maybe they caught it from the cat's litter box, or perhaps it is endemic in a population attracted to ivory towers. I hope they have fun grading papers this year...or will the grad students pick up the fomites?

4,358 posted on 10/20/2014 9:15:52 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: EternalHope
It is pretty well known the virus is more stable in colder temperatures: heat and UV break it down. This is a concern where I live as temps below 39F are common, if not the rule for the winter, which here runs from November through April at a minimum. Days are notably shorter here too with sunlight six hours different from the summer maximum, so, less UV, lower incidence angle, and longer fomite viability outside.

Whether as stable as Influenza A out in the air, while I cannot prove it is not, it seems less likely because I think there would have been substantially more infected in areas like the West Point slum in Monrovia during the lockdown. That however would not deter me from using the very best equipment available and assuming that the most stringent protocols possible are the safest. None are without risk, because removing the PPE can be a source of infection.

All bets are off with a malicious patient.

4,359 posted on 10/20/2014 9:30:50 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Vortex

Very interesting chart Vortex. Thanks.


4,360 posted on 10/21/2014 5:02:00 AM PDT by MulberryDraw (Repeal it.)
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