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Ebola Surveillance Thread
Free Republic Threads ^ | August 10, 2014 | Legion

Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe

I have spent a little time compiling links to threads about the Ebola outbreak in the interest of having all the links in one thread for future reference.

Please add links to new threads and articles of interest as the situation develops.

Thank You all for you participation.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
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To: Smokin' Joe

Can we expect ALL male ebola survivors from Africa to be honorable?

Since male ebola survivors are carriers for up to 80 days ...

Male Ebola survivors told: Use a condom [Reuters]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3212396/posts

Do male ebola survivors get VISAs? Are they even instructed to use condoms at US airports? With the power to spread ‘random’ ebola outbreaks via unprotected affairs, would you trust this policy with our nation’s daughters [along with those they could accidentally infect with fevers] or should male ebola survivors have 80 day quarantines before given their ‘VISAs’? [aka illegal immigration passes]

[link lists coming up here ... several redundant links I’m sure.]


4,121 posted on 10/16/2014 4:18:23 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Collapse the system." -- Cloward, Piven, and President Ebola.)
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Speaker Boehner +40 others in Congress demand commercial flight bans from Ebola-stricken nations
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215746/posts

[Is that it? We need ALL republicans on board ASAP! And ‘NO’ to giving President Ebola an ‘ebala csar’. If he wants a czar, he should resign and let Biden appoint one. At present, Mister Ebola said he doesn’t want a czar, which only means he does.]

[Other side of the coin ...]

Congressional Democrats Fight The Idea Of An Ebola Travel Ban
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-gop/3215778/posts

“...While 67 percent of Americans support the idea of a travel ban, many elected Democrats are decidedly against the idea...”

o o o o

The CDC’s ‘trick-or-treat’ Antics with Second Nurse

Dallas Nurse Infected With Ebola Told CDC She Had A Fever *BEFORE* She Boarded Her Flight
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215754/posts

“Amber Vinson, 29, flew from Cleveland, Ohio, to Dallas, Texas, on Monday, the day before she was diagnosed with Ebola, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said. Vinson told the CDC her temperature was 99.5 Fahrenheit (37.5 Celsius).”

2nd nurse with Ebola called CDC before boarding flight *SEVERAL TIMES*
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215689/posts

Frontier jet that carried Ebola patient made five more flights
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215733/posts

“...jet that carried a Dallas healthcare worker diagnosed with Ebola...”

CDC Gave Latest US Ebola Patient OK to Fly With Slight Fever
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215741/posts

Cleveland Clinic, MetroHealth System- Some of their nurses were aboard flight with Vinson
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215703/posts

“Today, we learned that Cleveland Clinic and The MetroHealth System had employees – mostly nurses – aboard the Frontier flight from Dallas to Cleveland on October 10, returning from a nursing conference in Texas...”

Belton ISD student traveled on flight with nurse who has Ebola
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215700/posts

“Belton ISD sent out a letter to parents from two schools Wednesday, informing them that a Belton ISD student traveled on the flight Monday with the second nurse who tested positive for Ebola. The letter reads: ‘Dear Parents: Your child’s health and safety is our top priority at North Belton Middle School. When issues of concern are brought to our attention, we want to...”

Two Northeast Ohio Teachers May Have Been Exposed to Ebola Virus (At least 2 schools shut-down)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215788/posts

Second Nurse with Ebola arrives in Atlanta for treatment
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215693/posts

[Why not parade her around some more first?]

[Links at top of Drudge Report ...]

COULTER: We’ll Tell You How Dangerous Ebola Is — After Election!
SAVAGE: ‘If you like your Ebola, you can keep your Ebola’...
LEVIN: CDC ‘trying to cover its ass’...
LIMBAUGH: Obama’s Deadly Failure...

[More ebola links coming up after a political statement.]


4,122 posted on 10/16/2014 4:22:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Collapse the system." -- Cloward, Piven, and President Ebola.)
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To: Thud; Smokin' Joe; PA Engineer; Tilted Irish Kilt; Black Agnes; Shelayne; Covenantor; ElenaM

So, I am now living in a disaster area.

See:

http://www.boston.com/health/2014/10/15/ebola-today-second-health-

• 8:34 p.m. EST: Dallas to declare citywide disaster. Dallas County Commissioners plan to declare a disaster Thursday over “the potential for widespread or severe damage, injury, loss or threat of life resulting from the Ebola virus,” Dallas’s local NBC affiliate reported. As part of the declaration, the city may restrict travel for health care workers who may have cared for the first Ebola patient.


4,123 posted on 10/16/2014 4:22:20 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: All
To be fair to the Center for Disease Confusion/Redistribution, a low grade fever might well be ‘low risk’. I hope and pray that no one on the five flights, in the two schools, and in the Cleveland Clinic weren't infected. There's a good chance none were.

But playing Russian Roulette with people THIS LATE in the crisis! When does the ‘A-Game’ kick in? From the beginning, up until now:

This is too stupid to be stupid!

Which means?

Either it was deliberate [a desire for panic, economic crisis, martial law, and culling of the riffraff ‘herd’] ...

... or ...

... political correctness to this degree is severe neurosis if not outright psychosis by multiple misanthropes. Either way — HIGH CRIME AND MISDEMEANOR, not only by Fried-ham, but also by President Ebola — the Chief has failed miserably reg. national security/public safety despite warning bells from sea to infected sea. The DNC’s apathy is on parade as well. [Like I've always said, the top republican leaders never go for ‘the kill’.]

If deliberate, the first phase of the plan would have been vague — deliberate apathy in the hope of a ‘good disease crisis’ so that it could be exploited. That's how ‘the game’ is played by tyrants who can't openly conspire in a republic. It's just a ‘salting of incompetency’.

If it's due to political correctness, I find that to be a difficult stretch. This is wa...ay crazier than a naked tree-sitter.

Or, is it sheer hatred of us ‘parasite-humans’? Misanthropic population control measures? Possibly. Makes more sense than political correctness.

One thing is for certain — ‘why’ doesn't even matter. A high crime and misdemeanor does not need to demonstrate motive. And the only ‘proof’ required is abject, unpardonable failure to do one’s sworn duty. The RNC should go through the motions — impeach and patriotic senators petition for an impeachment trial on the same day.

A single day!

Public record is all that is required at this point.

PUT THE DNC ON THE HOT SPOT. THIS CRISIS IS FAR ABOVE PETTY ‘RACE’ ISSUES BECAUSE EVERY RACE IS VULNERABLE TO EBOLA! If the DNC wants to subject the US to more of this ‘leader-ship’, let it BE ON RECORD! Then let the voters decide next month.

We can choose to forgive without pardoning. Forgiveness is a matter of the heart, not a matter of good governance.

4,124 posted on 10/16/2014 4:23:43 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Collapse the system." -- Cloward, Piven, and President Ebola.)
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Nurses are furious, may strike, over inadequate Ebola training
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215795/posts

[Blood testing labs are ‘on strike’ as well ...]

Quest Diagnostics To Doctors: Not Accepting Ebola Blood, Patients (Now LabCor,too)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215753/posts

“... Quest Diagnostics, the nation’s largest diagnostic lab company, has told doctors, hospitals and health care providers nationwide the company will not accept blood samples suspected of being infected with Ebola...”

o o o o

U.S. troops assisting in Ebola mission may be quarantined
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215584/posts

o o o o

Disaster Declaration Planned for Ebola Fight
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215774/posts

“Dallas County Commissioners will hold a special meeting Thursday to declare a disaster over “the potential for widespread or severe damage, injury, loss or threat of life resulting from the Ebola virus.” The declaration could help officials impose new travel restrictions on health care workers...”

o o o o

WE’LL TELL YOU HOW DANGEROUS EBOLA IS AFTER THE ELECTION ... Ann Coulter
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215784/posts

“...millions upon millions of dollars have been spent treating Ebola patients in the U.S. who acquired it there, one of whom has died. But the Obama administration refuses to impose a travel ban. This summer, the U.S. government imposed a travel ban on Israel simply to pressure Prime Minister Netanyahu into accepting a ceasefire agreement. But we can’t put a travel restriction on countries where a contagious disease is raging. It’s...”

o o o o

There Will Be Pestilences: Why Are So Many Deadly Diseases Breaking Out All Over The Globe Now?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3215738/posts

“Ebola, Marburg, Enterovirus and Chikungunya - these diseases were not even on the radar of most people coming into 2014, but now each one of them is making headline news. So why is this happening? Why are so many deadly diseases breaking out all over the world right now? Is there some kind of a connection, or is the fact that so many horrible diseases are arising all at once just a giant coincidence? And this could be just the beginning. For example, there are now more than a million cases of Chikungunya in Central and South America, and authorities...”

[Never let a good crisis go to waste.]

o o o o

NBC Doctor Who Ignored Ebola Quarantine Issues Apology
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215791/posts

[How does a proper apology like that work? “Sorry I don’t care enough about you peons that I’d expose you to ebola for a bowl of soup. But now you maroons are getting worked up, so I now apologize.”]

o o o o

Ebola: Tear gas fired in Freetown after body left on street
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215759/posts

“Police in Freetown, Sierra Leone, have fired tear gas as people took to the streets to complain about the authorities’ handling of the Ebola virus. They were angry that the body of a woman who died from the disease was left on the street for two days...”

o o o o

Barbra Streisand on HuffPost: GOP Budget Cuts Stopped Ebola Vaccine
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215694/posts

o o o o

Obama Admin backing Ebola vaccines using aborted baby cell lines
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3215658/posts

[Who needs horror movies this year? Infant stem cell research has been a disaster BTW. I never heard of ‘cell lines’ before.]


4,125 posted on 10/16/2014 4:25:38 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March ("Collapse the system." -- Cloward, Piven, and President Ebola.)
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To: Thud; Smokin' Joe; PA Engineer; Tilted Irish Kilt; Black Agnes; Shelayne; Covenantor; ElenaM

Now they are closing schools in Ohio over Case #3’s Airline travel Ebola exposure.

From the PFIF, including the comment which I wish I had thought of first—


Ebola patient flew on commercial jet; why didn’t anyone stop her?

By Catherine E. Shoichet, Josh Levs and Holly Yan, CNN
updated 1:00 AM EDT, Thu October 16, 2014

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health/texas-ebola-outbreak/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[snip]

Two schools in the Solon School District in suburban Cleveland are closed Thursday as a precaution because a staffer “traveled home from Dallas on Frontier Airlines Tuesday on a different flight, but perhaps the same aircraft,” as Vinson, the school district said in a statement. Shocked

“Although we believe what the science community and public health officials are telling us about the low risk of possible transmission of the virus through indirect contact, {I should have said “riiiggght. You don’t believe them either, huh?”} we are nonetheless taking the unusual step of closing the dual school building for Thursday so that we can have the schools cleaned and disinfected,” the district posted on Facebook.

[snip]

Comment:

I wonder what the stock market will do tomorrow?


4,126 posted on 10/16/2014 4:47:02 AM PDT by Dark Wing
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Use a Condom? What becomes of the BSL-4 hazardous waste in the bag? Do they wash off afterwards in the sink?

Will the pores in latex even contain the virus???

4,127 posted on 10/16/2014 4:56:34 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
NBC Doctor Who Ignored Ebola Quarantine Issues Apology
4,128 posted on 10/16/2014 4:58:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Ebola Headlines if a Republican was President (vanity)
4,129 posted on 10/16/2014 4:59:19 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Dark Wing

So, now I am living in a disaster area.
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Montgomery County, bedroom suburb of Washington, DC, stricken with terminal PC felt it necessary to proudly announce they would no longer mention nor name hospitalized suspect EVD cases due to the diversity of the local population which maybe, could be, probably would feel stigmatized by such revelations.

Memento mori liberal scum.


4,130 posted on 10/16/2014 4:59:40 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Could It Possibly Get Any Worse?

Oh yeah. You ain't seen nuthin' yet...

4,131 posted on 10/16/2014 5:01:10 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Solid Ebola Information from Science Magazine
4,132 posted on 10/16/2014 5:02:16 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Why Has Ebola Czar Nicole Lurie Been MIA?
4,133 posted on 10/16/2014 5:03:35 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Thomas Eric Duncan of Liberia dies of Ebola in Dallas (Received Visa in August See links below)
4,134 posted on 10/16/2014 5:06:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I’d like to know exactly how they know that Ebola is not transferable until a person has a fever.

A fever is a symptom, not a cause. The fever is the result of the disease. And, people react differently to disease. Some people get a massive fever from the flu, some don’t. People taking drugs that reduce fever will not react the same as people who do.

Did they study ebola victims taking their temperature and blood and bodily fluid samples at the same time before they got the disease and after? Then documented that bodily fluids show the presence of the disease exactly at the same time as temperature gores to 100.4 F.?


4,135 posted on 10/16/2014 5:06:36 AM PDT by anton
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To: anton
Up this thread I believe I had read where people may yet shed the virus while they are asymptomatic.

Once they have a fever, they shed more, because the virus has replicated more, and is more thoroughly disseminated in their body (the fever is a symptom of the reaction to this).

I have repeatedly maintained that while the most obvious means of transmission have been well documented, there has not been a lot of research into less likely avenues of infection.

The unfortunate result is that some equate that absence of evidence with evidence of absence and declare that a particular method of infection isn't possible.

In reality, we do not know because that particular route has not been studied or no instance of that type of exposure has been documented (usually because there was contact later in the progression of the disease).

Once someone is infected, they have the virus in them, replicating, compromising their immune system for its own benefit, spreading throughout their body.

After they are exposed, I would not knowingly risk my life in contact with someone without the appropriate safeguards.

The risk may be lower, even substantially lower, but there is still some chance.

I'll reserve my one in ten billion shot for Powerball...

4,136 posted on 10/16/2014 5:38:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Disaster Declaration Planned for Ebola Fight
4,137 posted on 10/16/2014 5:42:21 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
White House scrambles to ease concerns over Ebola, lawmakers demand changes
4,138 posted on 10/16/2014 5:43:04 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
2nd nurse with Ebola called CDC before boarding flight several times [CDC allowed her to fly]
4,139 posted on 10/16/2014 5:44:41 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Dallas Nurses Cite Horrifying Conditions in Ebola Care
4,140 posted on 10/16/2014 5:45:44 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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