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Ebola Surveillance Thread
Free Republic Threads ^ | August 10, 2014 | Legion

Posted on 08/10/2014 12:46:23 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe

I have spent a little time compiling links to threads about the Ebola outbreak in the interest of having all the links in one thread for future reference.

Please add links to new threads and articles of interest as the situation develops.

Thank You all for you participation.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
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To: Black Agnes

Ebola is deadly. It doesn’t take much of it to infect others. If it were as hard to catch as much of the officials have indicated, there would be no need for level 4 bio-containment in these “hot zones” - standard isolation measures would work. JMHO


1,961 posted on 09/12/2014 5:28:15 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ElenaM

Whatever happened to better safe than sorry? Seems like they just want everyone to assume we are all safe and there’s no danger.

Tell that to the people who were exposed to Patrick Sawyer.


1,962 posted on 09/12/2014 5:30:23 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes

“...it will likely just burn through the population until it’s done.”

That is my belief, any other outcome is in the realm
of fantasy at this point.


1,963 posted on 09/12/2014 5:33:07 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: greeneyes
As I wrote earlier, it's not about stopping the virus or saving lives. It's about political correctness and economics. How dare we quarantine three African countries? How dare we reduce their GDP?
1,964 posted on 09/12/2014 5:36:41 PM PDT by ElenaM
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To: ElenaM

I’ll take it one step further. How dare we try to survive. We should be equal in our misery. Stupid is as stupid does.


1,965 posted on 09/12/2014 5:55:13 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
I’ll take it one step further. How dare we try to survive. We should be equal in our misery. Stupid is as stupid does.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

-Winston Churchill

1,966 posted on 09/12/2014 6:10:15 PM PDT by XEHRpa
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To: Black Agnes

http://online.wsj.com/articles/pentagon-may-expand-its-involvement-in-ebola-outbreak-1410560205

“Pentagon May Expand Its Involvement in Ebola Outbreak
Considering Sending More Doctors, Medical Supplies and Providing Training in Liberia and Other Nations”

“U.S. defense officials said no final decision has been made on what capabilities will be sent. But officials have ruled out sending hospital ships or the big-deck amphibious ships that frequently respond to humanitarian disasters. One official said if the virus got aboard one of those ships, it could quickly spread and would be difficult to eradicate. “

...difficult to eradicate onboard a modern United States Navy ship? Are they worse than Africa now? Or simply just as bad? Or mmmmmaybe, the ‘difficult to catch’ and ‘someone has to literally vomit on you’ memes are just wrong!


1,967 posted on 09/12/2014 6:16:15 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: XEHRpa

Thanks for posting that. I have got to make a poster to hang in the family room.


1,968 posted on 09/12/2014 6:16:24 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes

difficult to catch’ and ‘someone has to literally vomit on you’ memes are just wrong!
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With respect to the accuracy of these memes, color me skeptical. As with so many things, don’t be deceived by what is said. Watch what is done. Actions speak truer than words.


1,969 posted on 09/12/2014 6:20:18 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Oh yeah. The pic at the top of the NPR link I posted tonight says it all. The biohazard facility in Nebraska isn’t using ‘mask gloves and gown’ even with the mockup patient in a practice run. They’re using full negative pressure suits. Obviously they think the CDC is full of it as well.


1,970 posted on 09/12/2014 6:38:14 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Well then, those of us who are skeptical of the CDC statements are in good company!


1,971 posted on 09/12/2014 6:45:53 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

.....”Black Market in Blood Serum Emerging Amid Ebola Outbreak”......

Perhaps this is why the rumors started that the clinic’s “Only” wanted their blood rather than treating people and why some would not go to the clinics to be checked?


1,972 posted on 09/12/2014 8:38:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: Smokin' Joe
'Real risk' Ebola virus will mutate to become an AIRBORNE disease, expert warns
1,973 posted on 09/12/2014 9:04:48 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Black Agnes
...”the symptoms of flu mimic those of ebola early on. And lots of ebola positive people will show in the ER and their doctors offices thinking they just have the flu. And infect the doctors, who if not wearing PPE for every single patient, will be playing roulette. And leave fomites all over the waiting rooms and bathrooms for any subsequent patients to encounter.

They will also be coughing and sneezing and sweating a lot. And if infected concurrently with both of them will become REALLY EFFICIENT ebola spreaders.”.......

Last year I had my first bout with the flu ...after finally returning to work, in three days I came down with ‘another’ strain/type. Already still weak from the first bout I ended up a real mess! It was worse than awful and frankly I didn't realize how sick I was. You tell yourself it's just got to run it's course and you'll start feeling better in a week or so....but it wasn't happening. Finally I saw the Dr. who simply told me to keep doing what I was already doing!

I write this because these were ‘two different’ flu's...the first one was intestinal...the second respiratory.....So if someone is simply recovering from any other illness and Ebola strikes them...they are already in a weakened state....and how many days prior were they already infecting other people who might be caring for them with something else! What a mess this entire thing is!!!!

1,974 posted on 09/12/2014 9:22:16 PM PDT by caww
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To: Black Agnes
....”Country-specific analysis of transmission rates in Liberia and Sierra Leone showed on average... between one and two new cases for every existing case.”......

All the more reason to isolate communities, as we spoke of. I don't see how they can contain this without Quarantine.

1,975 posted on 09/12/2014 9:27:39 PM PDT by caww
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To: ElenaM

....”lockdowns and quarantines do not help control Ebola as they end up driving people underground and jeopardizing the trust between people and health providers,”........

But the people are already defying and not trusting the health providers anyway....and because of their superstitions etc. they continue to hide those who are ill.

If they’re Quarantined, and their communities, you lower the risk greatly.....with people dying it would seem you’d risk thier mistrust and save life’s despite their objections.

The problem they had before, when attempting a Quarantine, s they weren’t distributing food and supplies to the people so of course they would rebel.


1,976 posted on 09/12/2014 9:34:41 PM PDT by caww
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To: Black Agnes; Smokin' Joe; null and void
Excerpt from article linked below:

In response to the increasing demand for specialty protective suits to be worm by healthcare workers and others being exposed to Ebola, Lakeland is increasing its manufacturing capacity for these garments and includes proprietary processes for specialized seam sealing, a far superior technology for protecting against viral hazards than non-sealed products.

"Lakeland stands ready to join the fight against the spread of Ebola," said Christopher J. Ryan, President and Chief Executive Officer of Lakeland Industries. "We understand the difficulty of getting appropriate products through a procurement system that in times of crisis favors availability over specification, and we hope our added capacity will help alleviate that problem. With the U.S. State Department alone putting out a bid for 160,000 suits, we encourage all protective apparel companies to increase their manufacturing capacity for sealed seam garments so that our industry can do its part in addressing this threat to global health.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/lakeland-industries-announces-global-availability-142200024.html

1,977 posted on 09/12/2014 10:05:34 PM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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To: Oorang

I saw that one.

wonder how many other departments are ordering. Is this a one off or the start of a trend...


1,978 posted on 09/12/2014 10:08:53 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Smokin' Joe
Lakeland Industries Announces Global Availability of Hazmat Suits for Ebola
1,979 posted on 09/13/2014 2:27:09 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

NYT Editorial Board: The Sluggish Fight Against Ebola

Because most Ebola victims remain at home, it is critical to supply families with hygiene kits, containing disinfectants, gloves and other materials that properly instructed households can use to prevent spread of the virus among family members and from them to others. About 400,000 people live in highly infected areas of Liberia, according to an Agency for International Development official, but the United States will deliver only 50,000 kits in about a month, a number that will be augmented by other donors but will still fall short of the need.

So they're going to distribute PPE to these people? People who don't believe it's a virus at all, or who are functionally illiterate and won't know how to use the materials? That's going to be a huge help. /s

And they still cling to the official line:

The virus poses little threat to the United States or other countries with advanced health care systems that can quickly identify and isolate infected patients. The virus is not transmitted through the air from one person to another but requires direct contact with the bodily fluids of a sick person, as can happen while bathing someone infected, cleaning up vomit or burying one who has died.

1,980 posted on 09/13/2014 9:22:22 AM PDT by ElenaM
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