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Evidence the Hawaii Medical Examiner turned a blind eye to the death of Loretta Fuddy
birtherreport ^ | March 31, 2014 | Linda Jordan

Posted on 03/31/2014 10:55:40 AM PDT by ethical

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To: GBA

Wishful thinking makes me say to myself that perhaps it’s still not too late?


It’s not too late. At all.


221 posted on 04/03/2014 9:48:05 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah
Truly amazing. People thinking that Putin wants to re-instate communism aren’t thinking straight. Not saying he’s a hero, but at least he hates communism, fags, and Islam. Which our “president” embodies.

That there are so many things which on their face seem right about the former USSR is only a measure of how far America has fallen.

Communism was never so vibrant as it has been since it was declared dead.

222 posted on 04/03/2014 9:50:24 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Putin isn’t establishing communism, just an old fashioned dictatorship and empire, as far as I can tell. It’s beyond tragic that the US is in the grip of communists/socialists, moslems and faggots.


223 posted on 04/03/2014 9:59:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I hope so.


224 posted on 04/03/2014 10:00:13 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Fred Nerks

Thank you. Put that on my list to read. I don’t remember if I have read any of his works.


225 posted on 04/03/2014 10:01:34 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

If you had, you would not have been able to forget. Anyone who hasn’t, should. Volume One is the best translation, Two isn’t quite as good, a little harder to read. Both are an unforgettable experience.


226 posted on 04/03/2014 10:09:06 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

thanks for your thoughts on this


227 posted on 04/03/2014 10:33:51 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: little jeremiah
Truly amazing. People thinking that Putin wants to re-instate communism aren’t thinking straight. Not saying he’s a hero, but at least he hates communism, fags, and Islam. Which our “president” embodies.

After that, every time I see him I'm going to be thinking, there he is, the ANTI-OBAMA

228 posted on 04/03/2014 11:29:38 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks; machogirl

You could start with “One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich” (sp?). It’s quite short, a “fictionalized” day in the gulag. I read it in one night, couldn’t put it down. Read most of “Gulag” at my parents’ house while visiting, I really need to buy it and read it all. I didn’t know there were two volumes.


229 posted on 04/03/2014 11:33:16 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

230 posted on 04/03/2014 11:36:23 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah
They are all moving toward the same goal, no matter what label you put on it. Totalitarianism is what it is, whether it be imposed for safety, security, or an religious or political/economic philosophy. Regardless, the effect is the same: the masses are oppressed, the elites live large while all others are treated as worthless.

If so many were not blinded by the thought of a 'brotha' gettin over, they'd realize they live in comparative squalor and the pResident would lose a significant portion of whatever base he claims to have. (Of course, with the media cooking the books, he may already have, and I really think we have no clue to the scope of voter fraud out there.)

231 posted on 04/03/2014 11:44:53 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: butterdezillion

For instance, what appears on the video to be a wave with sunlight shimmering off it turns around at one point and you can see what appears to be the face of a black man in a gray hoodie-type outfit, with a yellow light at the top of the “hood”. I showed that image and asked “What do you see?”

Nobody addressed that, but it is there and it is bizarre. Why was that there?


I have great respect for your research re Obama’s beginnings in Hawaii and the discrepancies. You know I do.

I was on that “what do you see” thread and it’s not true that people didn’t say what they saw. I did, Fred did, and lots of others. I spent literally hours picking apart whose body, whose shoes, etc, until I could make out as best as I could what was what, and there were no secret frogmen. There were not.

You kept asking, “what do you see?” And ONLY acknowledged the few who saw a frogman with an oxygen tank. It took me a long time to see the parts of things that made it look a little like a shiny guy in a rain hat but it was like the cloud I saw yesterday that looked a lot like an alligator.

Sometimes one has to rethink. Go for the simplest explanation. I agree Fuddy’s death was suspicious and I think to attempt to use what evidence there is to find a clue is admirable but one answer might be that there isn’t a clue available, whether the death was natural or not.

To a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Be cautious of going too far because it could hurt your credibility on something you find that is provable.


232 posted on 04/04/2014 1:45:30 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Smokin' Joe

Most people can’t measure seas correctly. Three footers are commonly reported as five. From the video I saw it did look more like short chops than long swells which as you say are not nearly as dangerous as short choppy seas.
IMHO, a high profile death such as Fuddys should have been done by a team of physicians, anywhere but in Hawaii, who specialize in such deaths. This entire investigation looks like a typical low rent obama type coverup,IMHO.


233 posted on 04/04/2014 3:16:23 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: butterdezillion

I saw your original video and pictures, and they were difficult to make out at best. You refused to acknowledge who I thought it was in the water, because really, that one picture you posted (that you said showed a mask and tanks) could have been any number of things, or could have been two or three different people. These were blurry video stills, not pictures per se. And in photography, images on film can look like lots of things, if the frame is stopped just right.

Sorry, but I have a hard time believing someone on Free Republic is in cahoots with ABC News and the Obama administration and when they found out you were “on to them”, “pixelated” the evidence. That is close to “cat lady crazy” talk in my view.

You seem like a nice of enough person and there is nothing wrong with asking questions, but this “conspiracy” of yours has way too many moving parts to just “off” a lady who may have the goods on a birth certificate. If she was about to reveal something and some in the administration wanted her gone, she would have just vanished. Intricate plots involving planes and frogmen is Hollywood stuff, and not how clandestine operatives work, trust me on this one. The simplest explanation is always best.


234 posted on 04/04/2014 4:56:46 AM PDT by corlorde (forWARD of the state)
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To: corlorde

I have no evidence of what I am about to write, but I sincerely hope that Fuddy is alive and living somewhere under her new identity given to her by the USMS following her grand jury testimony, at the direction of the FBI in cooperation with the CCP.


235 posted on 04/04/2014 6:25:57 AM PDT by Tillie (God Bless Pastor Manning, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Cmdr. Kerchner and all the other brave patriots!)
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To: Yaelle

Did you see the face inside the hoodie with a light on the top? I believe I mentioned that the yellow everybody was calling the sole of a shoe actually turned around and showed its face.

The interchange of ideas is such that when one person says what they think, others engage on the plausibility of that opinion. How well does it fit with other evidence? I have looked at the unpixelated video frames many, many times. If somebody suggests something that doesn’t fit with other frames/evidence I can mention those things and that can be the basis for engagement.

Nobody would engage with the additional information I brought forth. On my blog I posted additional images to address the “it’s Fuddy’s leg and shoe” theory. Almost nobody responded. Genuine inquiry requires engagement with ALL the available information, to cross-examine any opinion/theory by all the other facts. It’s what I constantly subject myself to because I want to get to the truth, and the truth has to account for all the facts. Nobody else seemed very interested in that part though.

Unfortunately, I have no way of knowing whether you have great respect for anything I have done. I have no way of knowing anything about you. The person who warned ABC to pixelate the videos was somebody on my ping list - a mole who wanted to sabotage my research but who posed as a friend.

Why do my enemies act as moles? Because that’s part of the subversion process. We can read all about Glenn Greenwald’s revelations and it seems far-fetched but it’s happening right here. People have been posing as my friends (while laughing about their “sock puppet accounts” over on fogbow, and how they have to sprinkle in stuff to keep people thinking they’re conservatives) so that when the time is critical, they can turn on me and everybody can say, “See? Even her (sock-puppet) supporters don’t buy her garbage, she’s so crazy...” The very same people who will stage their “concern” posts about how they’re very “concerned” about my credibility, or “concerned” about my sanity are the people who have been posing as somebody they’re not just to create that precise opportunity when it arises and is needed.

It’s a way to re-shape the narrative. And it works because nobody in an anonymous community has any idea who anybody else is. Real people might think the video showed a shoe, or moles pretending to be my friend might be pretending to think the video showed a shoe, and neither I nor anybody else could tell the two people apart. By posing as somebody they’re not, the Alinsky operatives are able to re-shape the perception of what is real, and what real people (non-operatives) see and think.

But a person who wanted the truth would be willing to engage with all the facts presented. And thus far, I’ve found nobody on Free Republic who claimed that it was a shoe who has exhibited that kind of integrity. Everybody - including yourself - backed off and called me crazy when I presented new information and asked how it fits with their pet theory. What does that tell me? It tells me that they are either weak-minded and not really interested in digging out the truth, or they are moles. Or they’re chased off by the underhanded techniques of the leadership on this forum.

I hate having to say that because it may offend people who truly do care and are not moles. I have no way of knowing who is who, so I’ll just say that this is how people build credibility WITH ME. Everybody is concerned about my credibility; why is nobody concerned about their own credibility? Credible truth-seekers engage with all the facts. Everybody on my ping list is a suspect right now on sabotaging my research - sabotaging ANY EXAMINATION of the Puentes video.

Moles and trolls are psy-ops. One of the intended results is that those who are true researchers are isolated from each other because they have no way of knowing who to trust. And all that is made even worse when people are anonymous.

My real name is out there because I was involved in real-life activity to try to change the crap in our government. I testified for a legislative hearing for the Nebraska eligibility bill. They don’t let anonymous people testify. Anonymous people inhabit forums like Free Republic, and trolls and moles constantly work to change the PERCEPTION of what the real public is thinking. In real life, where people have to give their name and put their credibility on the line, people have been threatened and so they will not speak anything except the same garbage the sock puppets speak.

Glenn Beck is a perfect example of how the Alinsky stuff works for real-life people. The media was threatened in October of 2008, with the media companies telling their on-air personalities that their careers would be over and they and/or their families could be killed if they reported anything about Obama’s eligibility problem or his Muslim leanings. Beck was silent until some people tried to force him to address the issue, at which time he lashed out at “birthers”. Then he was stuck in that stance. Later, when his staff was being threatened over other reporting - like the communist and Muslim connections in Obama’s regime - he realized he needed to start his own media company. But by then he was already compromised on the eligibility issue and lost a lot of credibility with people like me.

I am saying all this stuff so people can see the methods being employed against us. The regime does this because it works. These methods are why America is in the shape that it’s in. And until places like Free Republic take these methods seriously, it will keep working, and it will happen because places like this are compromised, becoming tools of the Alinsky-ites because they lend their good reputation to the garbage that is going on here. This is why Saddam Hussein made a deal with CNN, to allow them exclusive access as long as CNN spouted the regime’s propaganda. It was a win-win for both CNN and Saddam. The loser was truth, and the lives of the people Saddam wiped out because he had CNN lending their credible reputation to the propaganda of Saddam.


236 posted on 04/04/2014 6:50:07 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: corlorde

So it’s all too blurry for anybody to be able to tell anything. Thank you for sharing.


237 posted on 04/04/2014 6:57:00 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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To: corlorde; butterdezillion; Fred Nerks; LucyT

Conspiracy or not, IIRC was Fuddy not being a target for the Arpaio’s investigation, AND maybe there was a subpoena involved, AND maybe she had to be carted off the stage like grandma TOOT couple days before the election. Every skeleton in that family has been pulverized and sent over a cliff alas Paul Ryan so no DNA available to be found or investigated!!!

Interesting SHE was the ONLY person not making it out alive???


238 posted on 04/04/2014 7:32:37 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: butterdezillion

Butter - I agree with your post. I do not think you are crazy or any of these other names. The idea that the yellow thing is a shoe is the most ridiculous theory yet. Has anyone ever tried floating in a lifejacket while fully clothed? I’m not a 60-year-old woman, but I sincerely doubt she has/had the strength in her quadriceps and hip flexors to get her shoe up out of the water. If she were kicking violently enough to thrash above the surface, why would she suddenly “let go.” Why didn’t Yamamoto or one of the other passengers attempt rescue breathing? Was no one on the flight aware of basic CPR techniques?


239 posted on 04/04/2014 7:36:27 AM PDT by Tillie (God Bless Pastor Manning, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Terry Lakin, and Butterdezillion!)
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To: danamco

The first of the 2 Cessna 208B crashes in a less than 25-mile radius and 50-day time period happened 3 days after Fuddy was named as a defendant in a complaint by Doug Vogt, requesting that she and others be investigated for misprision of fraud and forgery (IIRC). The pilot was loudly praised but never named. The company was Mokulele Express, which was in an agreement with Makani Kai so that Makani Kai flew some of those flights. The NTSB was reported as saying that Mokulele was responsible to move the plane in case there was an investigation - leaving the evidence in the custody of the airline. The plane was entirely intact, there were no factors other than the engine, and there’s still no result of the NTSB investigation; it still is not known who was the pilot.

Between that time and the Dec 11th crash, Mike Zullo had appeared on Carl Gallups’ show and had said that Arpaio’s investigation, using paid law enforcement personnel investigating other crimes that became apparent out of the CCP forgery/fraud investigation, had evidence that would be “universe shattering” - that would require a response from everybody. Presumably including a potential Congressional investigation, bypassing Eric Holder, who has been the fox guarding the henhouse, making sure no federal investigations would be done into Obama and his puppetmasters’ crimes.

If Congress would indeed appoint a special investigator/prosecutor, Hawaii would no longer be able to evade subpoenas on the basis of them being STATE subpoenas rather than federal. IOW, if what Arpaio has can get a Congressional investigation, all the records from Hawaii can be subpoenaed and depositions compelled. There would be no more hiding.

They needed Fuddy to go away. Badly. Right then, in a way that seemed impossible to be an assassination, BEFORE Arpaio’s revelations came out.

A couple weeks later, this crash happened, with extra people in the water immediately after, lots and lots of contradictions in all the reports (both media reports and official reports), and Fuddy being the only person claimed dead and her autopsy not available for people to see (but sounding like a psychological evaluation rather than a scientific assessment of physical evidence, as is the point of the article this thread is about).

That’s the setting and timing.

Clearly nothing to see here. /s


240 posted on 04/04/2014 7:48:12 AM PDT by butterdezillion (Note to self : put this between arrow keys: img src=""/)
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