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Weekly Garden Thread Volume 12 March 21, 2014
Free Republic | March 21, 2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 03/21/2014 12:44:59 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks.

No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: sockmonkey

I think my dad used electrical conduit, but not sure. Galvanized water pipe would be too heavy, conduit too flimsy.

I would think of using PVC.


201 posted on 03/24/2014 1:44:30 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: rightly_dividing; sockmonkey; greeneyes
Sun came out and warmed outside, went outside and finished transplanting 7 plants into permanent pots.

Started to transplant the St. Anne lettuce and thought that was ridiculous, trying to transplant bunches of small lettuce plants is nuts. Was going to put them in a three foot long planter, so prepared the potting soil in the planted by sticking some Jobe spikes in it to jack up the potting soil as it has been there since last year, plus put some new soil in, and depressed the center all the way down the planter and put new St. Anne seed in there, covered them up and watered it and it's done. That's the first time I have dumped seedlings but my lower back said do it, so I did.

I am glad all those plants are in permanent containers. However, I've got some Lantana flowers in small pots they came in from Lowes, and I need to transplant those into larger containers. I probably have five of those at least, don't remember how many I bought that day. So, I guess I am NOT through transplanting, plus two more tobacco need transplanting. Crap, I will never get through with that.

202 posted on 03/24/2014 3:46:41 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: Marcella

—Crap, I will never get through with that.—

Farming is a never ending job.


203 posted on 03/24/2014 4:13:16 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: sockmonkey

My cucuzza shipped already, hope yours too. ETA: Fri, 28th


204 posted on 03/25/2014 4:42:44 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: rightly_dividing
My cucuzza shipped already, hope yours too.

I just checked my email and mine are also showing an ETA of Friday. I was watching youtubes by a Pine Tar showing his cucuzza adventures..He was finally offering free seeds.. It was his three years of growing them, from first time to old hat.

Here is a link I found with good info on cucuzzas:
Semi-Obscure Vegetables: Cucuzza

205 posted on 03/25/2014 7:09:12 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: rightly_dividing; sockmonkey; JRandomFreeper; greeneyes; All
Have you ever ordered seeds and then forgot you ordered them? I got an email from Park Seed that my seeds had shipped. What seeds? I went to Park Seed to see my orders and sure enough, seeds were sent yesterday and I did order them.

I didn't get a notice they were on back order but that is what happened. Ordered them several days after March 1, and now they sent them yesterday.

rightly, that means more seeds under grow lamp and more plants to transplant to larger pot, then transfer again to permanent container. Drats.

So, what did I order? These are small plants for containers so that's why I ordered them. The Pepper Sweet Pickle Organic one is $1.00 per envelope and I got 5 due to them being good to can. There is a picture of canned ones by their description.

Pepper Sweet Pickle Organic - 25 seeds, $1.00
http://parkseed.com/sweet-pickle-organic-pepper-seeds/p/05927-PK-P1/

Okra Green Fingers - 30 seeds, $4.95
http://parkseed.com/green-fingers-okra-seeds/p/05168-PK-P1/

Ornamental Pepper NuMex Easter - 10 seeds, $3.95
http://parkseed.com/numex-easter-ornamental-pepper-seeds/p/51519-PK-P1/

Cabbage Gonzales Hybrid - 50 seeds, $1.95
http://parkseed.com/gonzales-hybrid-cabbage-seeds/p/05535-PK-P1/

206 posted on 03/25/2014 7:13:08 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: rightly_dividing
Farming is a never ending job.

LOL,,,,There's is an saying about farming,You don't own the land ,the land owns you , everyday there's always something that has to be done .

207 posted on 03/25/2014 7:22:44 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: piroque
LOL,,,,There's is an saying about farming,You don't own the land ,the land owns you

I thought that was an old saying about Cats.

208 posted on 03/25/2014 9:44:40 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: rightly_dividing
My cucuzza shipped already, hope yours too. ETA: Fri, 28th

Okay, I went to Tractor Supply and got two cattle panels in anticipation of the coming Cucuzza-palooza.

Despite my fantasies of a beautiful stylish redwood pergola trellis covered in disease free greenery, under which, I am sitting at an equally stylish bistro table sipping a fruity summery drink...I opted for easy, cheap, gets the job done.

209 posted on 03/25/2014 9:52:52 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey

Just to complicate the decision process, I saw somewhere(youtube?) somebody bent the cattle panels in the middle creating a V-shaped trellis. Probably not good for cucuzza-lapooza, but tomaters, maybe.

I have decided that since the cucuzza is closer to what I was looking for, I will focus on that and leave Tsquash for another season. We have a small garden and choices have to be made.


210 posted on 03/25/2014 10:29:20 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: sockmonkey

—Despite my fantasies of a beautiful stylish redwood pergola trellis covered in disease free greenery, under which, I am sitting at an equally stylish bistro table sipping a fruity summery drink...I opted for easy, cheap, gets the job done.—

LOL- I understand completely.


211 posted on 03/25/2014 10:31:00 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: sockmonkey

Food for thought:

http://www.pvcplans.com/pvc-pipe.htm


212 posted on 03/25/2014 12:17:37 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: rightly_dividing

Rightly, I need to know something. It appears the engineer won’t be in this area until who knows when, so I put the Craftsman work table together and I’m stuck. I’m at the point I need to tighten all the flat screws into the nuts but I need something to stop the nuts from moving so the screw will tighten. The nuts have a tiny plastic washer inside for the screw to go into to be really tight. A pair of pliers just comes off the nut as it isn’t a sided nut so there is nothing for the pliers to hang onto. Tried regular and needle nose pliers and neither work.

I figure you know what I can use to hold that nut still. I even tried a cork out of a wine bottle, carved a bit out of the center to try to fit that nut in but that isn’t satisfactory.

Do you have a suggestion?


213 posted on 03/25/2014 1:49:27 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: Marcella
I’m at the point I need to tighten all the flat screws into the nuts but I need something to stop the nuts from moving so the screw will tighten.

You need a socket wrench...you should invest in a gator grip one..they fit any size nut... While the socket wrench or gator grip is holding the nut, you can tighten the screw, or You can hold the screw in place with a screwdriver, and using the ratchet action of the wrench, tighten the nut.. Hope that helps.

214 posted on 03/25/2014 2:31:05 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Marcella
Also, there is probably a socket set, or wrench around your house....Lol, I have a gator grip, but I have no earthly idea where it is..Kinda like Wonder bars..I lose those, too.

The socket set is usually in a flat rectangular dark plastic case..Inside, it will have a handle, with a round indent at one end, and a bunch of different sized cylinders that snap into the handle.

215 posted on 03/25/2014 2:35:44 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey

I looked closely at a nut and there are sides to it but they are close down to the screw and there is not enough room to use pliers. I’m sure there are socket wrenches here so I will try to find a very small one that fits, let me look.


216 posted on 03/25/2014 2:35:59 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: Marcella

I don’t remember when “gator grips” first made the scene, but Sears was running non stop commercials for them on tv..like they would be the perfect stocking stuffer for your guy..
Anyway, I think they cost about thriteen bucks, and since they adapt to any size nut, they are pretty handy..


217 posted on 03/25/2014 2:41:38 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: Marcella

Without seeing them it is challenging. It sounds like they are lock nuts with the plastic insert, but all I have ever known of were 6 sided. My best guess without looking at them is a pair of small size Vise-grip pliers or Robogrip pliers. If you take a sample of the nut into Lowes tool dept, there will be somebody that can look at them and tell you what you need. If you have never adjusted Vise-Grips to fit correctly, you may want to try Robogrips, or Lowes version by another name, Robogrip being a trademark. They look kinda like regular pliers but grip pretty hard, if you can squeeze them hard, and they are self adjusting to the needed size. Sears, being who they are, has a history of having stuff made just for them that may not be to any kind of standard, especially since Chinese made stuff has flooded the market, and I would bet this was made in China.

Let me try this, is this the workstaion that you bought? If not can you send me a link? If I can look at a user manual in PDF online, I may can look at what they are using. This one does not have a PDF for assembly instruction.

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-workstation/p-00922284000P?prdNo=2&blockNo=2&blockType=G2


218 posted on 03/25/2014 2:42:54 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (Hate is what people that hate the truth call the truth.)
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To: sockmonkey

Found a right size socket wrench - exactly what I need. Thanks for suggesting that, I just wasn’t clicking in my head what would work, but this is it.


219 posted on 03/25/2014 2:45:10 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today.))
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To: rightly_dividing

Yes, that is the work station and I was wrong - those nuts have sides but not prominent sides like I am used to seeing. Found a size 10 (whatever that means) small wrench with a round hole that fits that nut. I’ll see if this works right now and report back if I get it tight.


220 posted on 03/25/2014 2:48:55 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today.))
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