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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 38 SEPTEMBER 20, 2013
Free Republic | September 13, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 09/20/2013 12:16:53 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; garden; gardening; hobby
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To: bgill
Anyone know about ginger? I planted a root (yes, broken up into pieces) several weeks ago and it’s 12+” tall already. It’s in a pot so can be brought inside when winter hits. But when do I dig it up for use?

I read you just pull it out of the pot, cut off what you need, and then stick it back in the pot. I also read it likes temps 75 degrees, and hotter,

Oh, also, that you should mist it, or set the pot in a saucer full of rocks with water in the saucer, if you don't want to mist it...
You don't want the water to touch the botttom of the pot or to draw up into the soil in the bottom of the pot, but for the evaporating water in the saucer with rocks to create a humid micro climate.

101 posted on 09/20/2013 7:55:37 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: sockmonkey

*sniff* YES! I was murdering what I thought were rapacious beasts and they turned out to be lady bug larvae!

LOL! they do sort of look like little red and black alligators!


102 posted on 09/20/2013 8:16:00 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: MomwithHope
MomwithHope ~:" Maybe I will try a grow light, I do have an old fixture out in the garage. I am pretty chinsy with electricity use though."

Is the fixture an incandescent or fluorescent lamp ?
Regardless, a lamp should be "full spectrum" ( which means that it includes 'blue light' , which is used by plants for photosynthesis)
A "Full Spectrum" light will say so ; if it doesn't say 'full spectrum', it isn't, and plants will grow spindly and be starved for photosyntheisis .
It sounds kinda crazey , but the plants use 'blue light' for growth and vigor for photosynthesis .
Frequently a "Grow Light" will include a red lamp (due to wavelength - frequently incandescent) which induces 'blooming' .
For young seedlings , you don't want them to 'bloom',rather you want strong roots and stalks to support the fruit.
For seedling germanation, the seed bed needs to be warm ; most garages aren't warm enough throughout the day;
better to bring the fixture indoors where the ambient air temps are warmer, consistant and constant . Most garages have high temperature fluctuations and drafts, which slow growth , and can lead to wilt and soil fungal disease .

103 posted on 09/20/2013 8:52:10 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: MomwithHope
Seedlings will also germinate well with bottom heat , or consistant temperature at the seedbed .
Germination rates are consistantly higher with bottom heat, or fixtures placed immediately above the seed bed, which raises the seed bed temperature.
Depending on the location , I try to keep my 'full spectrum ' lights about 2 - 3inches above the seed bed until I get sprouts.
Once sprouted , I try to keep the 'full spectrum' lights about 2-3 inches over the developing plants, until transplanting time .
Don't forget to 'harden off' your plants before planting outdoors .
('Harden off'-implies gradual introduction to sunshine / wind/rain ; it means to toughen up the plants for adversity)
104 posted on 09/20/2013 9:09:11 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: Marcella

Marcella, I just bought the same Grow Lamp as yours. Now I just need a trombocino squash seed.It was $52.60-a few cents more than the 2 foot jump start.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hydrofarm-Jump-Start-4-Foot-Grow-Light-Kit-54W/17435096


105 posted on 09/20/2013 9:57:19 PM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: reed13k

Wild grapes, black raspberries, and willow grow in the clay soil next to my stream. That might be a start.


106 posted on 09/20/2013 10:20:14 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: sockmonkey

“It was $52.60-a few cents more than the 2 foot jump start.”

Yes, I think Walmart has a wrong price on the 4 ft. or the 2 ft., as they shouldn’t be priced so close together.


107 posted on 09/20/2013 10:49:40 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: tubebender

That is a sad sight. Sorry about your maters.


108 posted on 09/20/2013 11:53:03 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: TEXOKIE
Have to look twice before I squish: potato beetle larvae are black & red, too. Look more like slugs than alligators, though.

The pupa of the ladybug is what can confuse me.

This is a ladybug pupa; they are stationary.

this is the potato beetle larva; they crawl and CHEW.

109 posted on 09/21/2013 12:24:38 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Oh no. Well, at least it didn’t zap everything.


110 posted on 09/21/2013 3:37:39 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tubebender

Nifty and thrifty. LOL


111 posted on 09/21/2013 3:38:15 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

Those books look very interesting to me, although I do have several. The comission E book/monographs are considered authoritative, and give conraindications, dosage, etc.

Herbal medicines apparently are used more often in Europe than here.


112 posted on 09/21/2013 3:44:50 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: mlizzy

Thanks I appreciate that.


113 posted on 09/21/2013 3:46:24 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Thanks, yes it is a fluorescent fixture and I know about the full spectrum. It was used many moons ago. Just have to decide if I want to do that again. Hubby has never been crazy about 3 or 4 flats of seedlings in the dining room by the slider.


114 posted on 09/21/2013 5:19:36 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Buy and read The Liberty Amendments by Mark Levin!)
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To: sockmonkey

That’s what I thought but didn’t know for sure.


115 posted on 09/21/2013 5:36:22 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill
That’s what I thought but didn’t know for sure.

Re: Ginger, since yours sounds like it's growing just fine, this doesn't matter, but I also read that you soak it overnight in lukewarm water before planting, and make sure each little piece you plant has an "eye" facing upward.

One of my old Chinese cookbooks states you can store ginger root in a jar of dry sherry for up to 9 months..Now to me that seems like it would just leech all the gingerousity out of it.

116 posted on 09/21/2013 6:17:01 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: TEXOKIE
Thank you! Seems a nice way to test out an area to garden, instead of digging up, etc. We are contemplating purchasing "one" 4x4 (not three) of these greenhouse units (something very similar --through the same company-- is available at our local garden store for $69.99), but I'm not sure it would hold up. It would be nice to know more about carpentry. :)https://frameitall.com/productdisplay/raised-garden-1in-4x12ft-2-level-cw-3-pvc-greenhouse
117 posted on 09/21/2013 6:24:28 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: TEXOKIE; Marcella; greeneyes; bgill
For anyone who does "planting by the moon's phases", tomorrow, 9-22 & 9-23, also, 9-27 & 9-28 are supposed to be good for planitng root crops-potatoes, carrots, onions, etc.

. All the other days remaining in the month are supposed to be good for destroying pests-weeds, bugs, and for plowing, tilling, tree removal, etc.

I am going to plant onion sets, and maybe some minowase (big honker chinese) radishes tomorrow.

118 posted on 09/21/2013 6:27:54 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Of Course I didn't read the article. After all, this is FreeRepublic..)
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To: greeneyes

How do you go about composting? Our previous home had a somewhat secret area (away from the neighbors) whereby we could just pile up our scraps and it was easily turnable, but that is no longer the case.


119 posted on 09/21/2013 6:38:53 AM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: Marcella

I went out to the gauge to check and see we had 5” of rain yesterday. That makes 11” for the month here at the ranch, with 4.46 being the average for Sept.

I picked 6 more ghost peppers this morning while I was out; that plant is covered with peppers now, I bet it has 20 more now.

Everything in the new patio garden was looking happy from God’s watering. I didn’t venture around to the front to look at the beds there, but I’m sure they are happy, too.


120 posted on 09/21/2013 6:55:34 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (Phil. 4:13)
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