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Many think that Urban Warfare is something that could never happen in America and That anyone that believes it can wears a 'tin foil' hat. Well I have news for them pick up any news paper, read the news blogs or just look around you. Urban Warfare has already started here.
1 posted on 09/07/2013 2:14:30 PM PDT by Kartographer
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2 posted on 09/07/2013 2:15:19 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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Chicago is a good example.


3 posted on 09/07/2013 2:15:41 PM PDT by Rikki Doxx
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Thanks for the thread, Kart! By God’s grace we can be spared all this, but I truly believe that in order to have that happen, we must out of obedience be prepared.

Darlin’ ran across these two utube links today and we thought that you folks might also be interested in seeing them:

How to drill your own water well. This is a series, and I was intrigued because the guy uses pvc to make his drill bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLwVs6BDqww

This one is a simple way to test small batteries:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_m6p99l6ME


4 posted on 09/07/2013 2:22:12 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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Does anyone have thoughts on urban, suburban, or rural fortifications? Would traditional fences, brick/stone walls, dirt/sandbag berms, be helpful in protecting a home or a neighborhood, would those draw more challenges than they would discourage, or does their value depend on the size and capabilities of the neighborhood and on the proximity of areas with feral gangs?


5 posted on 09/07/2013 2:22:56 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Agreed. The wheels are coming off the wagon, no doubt about that. The black kid murdering the 13 month old white baby in his stroller is an example.

The Tennessee 2007 murder of the young white couple by 5 blacks was perhaps the sickest of them all:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/08/27/parents-of-tenn-couple-horrifically-raped-tortured-and-murdered-share-their-story-of-unthinkable-agony-and-injustice-with-glenn-beck/

6 posted on 09/07/2013 2:23:45 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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bflr


7 posted on 09/07/2013 2:24:12 PM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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As far as people coming to the country I’m more concerned about unprepared suburbanites than I am the urban ferals.

The urban ferals will turn on each other and on the suburbanites first.


8 posted on 09/07/2013 2:25:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate …
— Isaiah 6:11
Indeed it can happen here.
10 posted on 09/07/2013 2:27:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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> Well I have news for them pick up any news paper, read the news blogs or just look around you. Urban Warfare has already started here.

It's the frog in the pot of heating water.

Don't look for dramatic 6-day riots like Watts in 1965. There might be a few such conflagrations, but I believe the urban meltdown will take place over a few years, with occasional spikes in the summers.

Unless/until the power grid goes suddenly and stays down for more than a week or two. Then the end will come quickly.

I live in an isolated part of rural upstate NY, and pray that the distance and Poconos are enough to keep the crazed masses and smoke from NY City away.

13 posted on 09/07/2013 2:32:12 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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“Urban Warfare has already started here.”

I agree it has. It's a creeping war - one reads about race killing another race in another state, then reads about it in your state and then reads it in your city, your town, your community and the numbers start adding up, then you get used to hearing about the killings. You just transitioned to an acceptance of a new normal.

How long is it until we reach what Selco went through - killing in any street at any time?

21 posted on 09/07/2013 2:53:41 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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Chi-Congo seems to be a pretty good training ground.


28 posted on 09/07/2013 3:10:47 PM PDT by SkyDancer (A white woman would be accused of racism if she gave birth to a white baby.)
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During the last “gas shortage” we witnessed a fistfight at a local gas station over the last few drops of gasoline at a gas station in very small town America.. Not urban warfare, but an example of how things can get out of control.


30 posted on 09/07/2013 3:16:09 PM PDT by Sasparilla
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Bttt


34 posted on 09/07/2013 3:23:54 PM PDT by digger48
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Here's where I usually post "I am so screwed."

But I post that mostly for fun, the reality is, I do not believe that. Selco confirms my hunch:

Who will go first?

Not necessary the weakest one in terms of strength, expect to see first casualties among the people who are most dependent on society and have very bad ability to adapt.

So while 70 years man surely looks like guy who is gonna die among first one when you compare it to the young athletic looking teacher (or whatever) in reality that old guy might be able to adapt faster, because he comes from poor background and grew up in sort of the same survival scenario. That athletic looking dude is maybe lost because his strong faith in society and good human nature.

The reality is, I am probably personally much more durable than most. I have been in hell before, in my 12 step acting-out phase. While I am no longer in that phase, the lessons of what it is to do without NEARLY EVERYTHING have stayed with me. I found out I was mentally and spiritually durable. I can make it through almost anything. I can live without AC and computers and phones. I can live in the woods without a tent and only one sheet draped over me to try, unsuccessfully, to keep skeeters off. I have gone without food and had to carry on anyways.

I will probably be one of the ones that make it, provided I don't get a bit of bad luck somehow.

38 posted on 09/07/2013 3:42:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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The question you have to ask in any SHTF scenario is “what will the military do?” The Army and Marine Corps (including Guard and Reserve components) have 100+ ground force battalions and plenty of fuel, rations, ammunition and air support. Most of the population and industrial infrastructure is within range of naval gunnery and all of it is reachable by strategic bombers and fighter-bombers. Unless the military stays in its quarters, or completely dissolve with their armories and storehouses somehow destroyed, what those battalions, ships and planes do is going to determine how it goes.

(You don’t need to secure every 40 acre spread in the middle of nowhere or every ghetto housing project, and you probably don’t even need to control any of them — you just have to control infrastructure for food, fuel and media, and that’s more than enough to achieve whatever disposition of chaos you choose.)


59 posted on 09/07/2013 4:55:45 PM PDT by only1percent
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Looks like the economic decline is much more gradual than a “storm.” Maybe tent cities full of impoverished ex-pensioners and other jobless folks, without children and generally helpless, nearly all of them dying of old age within a very short period of time. Hordes of rich foreigners will buy the homes that they once had, as has already happened to many.


61 posted on 09/07/2013 4:59:37 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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Prep stuff ?


82 posted on 09/07/2013 6:24:53 PM PDT by snooter55 (People may doubt what you say, but they will always believe what you do)
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Those who cling to normalcy bias will deny it: the race war has already begun.

It did not start with riots in the streets and ash in the skies, as we thought it would.

It started with the word being quietly put out by the Left and the Media, and now whites are being hunted on the streets by feral blacks.

But the Leftists don’t want you to know it yet. They don’t want you to know that you’re part of an obvious, in-your-face race war. They want whites to feel an undertow of dread, to feel powerless and helpless against the black horde that is lurking, waiting inside the urban kraals.

The ever-mounting tide of hate from the Left is frightening people. Fear causes paralysis. And that leads to inaction, whether by not acting against it, or refusing to accept the truth.

Face the truth: he race war has begun, and the feral blacks are the shock troops.


88 posted on 09/08/2013 2:52:34 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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If you want to read about urban warfare,read books about the Germans in Stalingrad.
It was a 3D war. Sewers, high building and street level fighting.
It is a terrible business which favors the defenders.


91 posted on 09/08/2013 5:31:54 AM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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Bflr


96 posted on 09/08/2013 6:14:36 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some days...it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps....)
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