Posted on 08/27/2013 10:44:47 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
Partial Transcript of the Mark Levin Show aired live on Monday, August 19, 2013
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Hello everybody, Mark Levin here, our number 877-381-3811, 877-381-3811.
Mark Levin: Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow! You guys, open your microphones a second. Thousands of people at both booksignings. Wasn’t that unbelievable?
Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.
Mark Levin: And the people were just spectacular, weren’t they? Except for one guy in New Jersey which I’ll talk about later.
Staffer: [chuckles]
Mark Levin: This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!” No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans. They’re not natural-born Americans. I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever… None! But it’s, it’s just amazing! Absolutely stunning! But we had so many wonderful people, and let me add, all races, both genders… I don’t know the sexual preferences, that wasn’t a requirement to say hello…young people, elderly, middle age people. A particularly young crowd, yeah, we had dogs come too, everybody so well behaved, and uh, it was a pleasure. In New York, we were there about four-and-a-half hours, in New Jersey about five, five-and-a-half hours, and I wanted to be respectful to everybody, so… I just want to thank you all, and this Saturday, Tyson’s Corner, Virginia, at Barnes and Noble. I should add, if you want to see the crowd that was at New York, Mr. Producer went down the line, and this was early on, this, this line kept growing and growing throughout the day…you can go look at uh MarkLevinShow.com on our website, as well as the social sites MarkLevinShow Facebook, MarkLevinShow Twitter. Um, Christians, Coptic Christians are being wiped out in Egypt. Their churches are being burned to the ground….
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Mark Levin: Alright, lets go to uh, Steve in New York, the great WABC, go!
Steve: Great one, it’s great to talk to you, what an honor.
Mark Levin: My honor, thank you, my friend.
Steve: Oh, I got a great story for you, I loved your uh, Hannity special, I enjoyed it very much, I listened to it three times over the weekend…
Mark Levin: Oh, thank you.
Steve: …I got my wife, I got my wife to tape for me, or TIVO it, and she watched it. And she really enjoyed it. She’s not big on politics or anything, and she gets sick of hearing me talk about it, but it was funny ‘cause she said “He is so calm, Steve.” He was, she was trying to do a little wifey/husband training? And…
Mark Levin: Uh huh.
Steve: she said “He is so calm, and he gets his point across. He didn’t raise his voice, or get upset…
Mark Levin: [chuckles]
Steve: …or anything!”
Mark Levin: [breaks out into laughter]
Steve: …and I laughed so hard. I said “How do you, uh, where do you think I learned how to yell?” [laughs] “I just listen to Mark.” And she knows you’re my hero, I go around quotin’ ya, and tellin’ everybody to listen to ya, and…
Mark Levin: Well, that’s great.
Steve: she just … to get me to calm down a little, and I said you just need to listen to Mark. [laughs]
Mark Levin: Well, thank you, uh…well listen, you know what, this is called passion, just remind her it’s passion, you know, and um…what was truly exceptional about the Hannity program, number one, the man has enormous class and decency, and number two, he was asking me questions because he wanted me to inform the public about what I’d written, and to engage the studio audience. And notice we didn’t have a bunch of left-wing bomb throwers just yelling and talking over people. There were conversations actually occurring, did you notice that?
Steve: Yes, there was no crazy, I mean a lot of times he’s got the left wingers on there, and it’s just, kind, it’s almost funny to watch, but that was so interesting and…and it didn’t get me upset, and it just, I just wanted to listen to it over and over and absorb every second of it, and every bit of information, it…it’s just brilliant, Mark, I, you know I hope when um…we’ve got President Cruz, he has the wisdom to make you his chief of staff or vice-president.
Mark Levin: No, no no no no no. And he’s got a great chief of staff, by the way. No, I…I do what I do, and uh, and he will do a great job should he be president. Thank you for your call my friend. And uh, I’m so sick of these birthers. I was going to tell you about this, uh, incident. Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until…and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line. Um…but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I don’t know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says “You were wrong about this, you were wrong about”, and honestly I, I, I didn’t have time to read it, and I’ll go back and check it, if I’m wrong about it I’ll fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when you’re going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so I’m going to check it out, I just haven’t had time. And then he goes, he says uh “And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president. He’s not a natural-born Citizen.” And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen. Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci… “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!” Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen! She was an American citizen. And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that. And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen! That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution. So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful. If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and there’s a lot of easy cases. So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was…he was a nutjob. And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that? Is this, is this sort of the way you…you excite yourself or something? No. So, I just want you folks to know who like Ted Cruz. I…I assume they’re going to do this to Rubio, or some of these other people too, whether you like ‘em or not for president I’m just making a point, but now this has become an entire industry. And of course [chuckles] Ted Cruz [laughs], he immediately issued today or yesterday his long form birth certificate. Now, some of this is probably coming from the left. So now they’re the birthers. But some of it’s coming from others, too. People just get obsessed, or conspiratorial, and there’s no end to it, on a matter like this, and there’s nothing I can say or point to that’s going to change their mind. But in my view there’s no doubt about it that he’s eligible for president, should he choose to run, just as I believe McCain was eligible for president, when he ran. So…that’s my opinion! You may not like it… But what particularly bothered me about this guy…he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know…listening, watching and so forth. I’m a big boy; I’ve seen this and a thousand times worse. But he was quite obnoxious. He’s the only one…oh no there was another guy, had a prob, wha wha, he what…he had a problem, he was screaming upstairs, I don’t know what he was screamin’ about. It was kind of eventful there in New Jersey. No, there wasn’t anything like that in New York, was there boys? [Staff: No. Peaceful in ji…you know in Long Island] It was peaceful on Long Island! [chuckles] But is was peaceful in New Jersey, too. It really, really was. It was just terrific. If you could have seen that line, well, actually you can. We have the uh video, and this is just the start of the day with the line. It got longer and longer at uh… at Book Review in Long Island if you want to take a look on MarkLevinShow.com or MarkLevi…oh there is now? The…the New Jersey line? Okay. Both lines. On MarkLevinShow.com, are they both on the social sites too? Or…just the Long Island. But we’ll put the other one up later so some of you can see yourselves, too. Alright. GoldLine!
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(further information and videos at: http://queenofliberty.com/2013/08/14/mark-levin-rolls-out-his-new-book/)
“He never claimed double allegiance”
He never had to because he was already born with Canadian Citizenship.
If Cruz runs, it will be up to you to challenge him in court, because if you don't and he wins he will be President. That you or any other conservative would do that is categorically insane. That you would prefer Christie or Hillary over this niggling Pharisaical issue is once again, categorically insane.
:-)
Mark Levin: This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!” No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother. So all you pregnant ladies travelling overseas: According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans. They’re not natural-born Americans. I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so. They have no historical background whatsoever… None! But it’s, it’s just amazing! Absolutely stunning!
Your understanding of the original intent is incomplete. The Framers fear was that a wealthy or powerful foreign citizen, or one allied with a foreign power, would come to the US, get naturalized, and use their wealth and power to become president. For instance, James Madison said
The Ministers of foreign powers would have and make use of, the opportunity to mix their intrigues & influence with the Election. Limited as the powers of the Executive are, it will be an object of great moment with the great rival powers of Europe who have American possessions, to have at the head of our Governmt. a man attached to their respective politics & interests. No pains, nor perhaps expense, will be spared, to gain from the Legislature an appointmt. favorable to their wishes. Germany & Poland are witnesses of this danger. In the former, the election of the Head of the Empire, till it became in a manner hereditary, interested all Europe, and was much influenced by foreign interference. In the latter, altho’ the elective Magistrate has very little real power, his election has at all times produced the most eager interference of forign princes, and has in fact at length slid entirely into foreign hands.Note that St George Tucker writes
That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted,) is a happy means of security against foreign influence, which, where-ever it is capable of being exerted, is to be dreaded more than the plague. The admission of foreigners into our councils, consequently, cannot be too much guarded against; their total exclusion from a station to which foreign nations have been accustomed to, attach ideas of sovereign power, sacredness of character, and hereditary right, is a measure of the most consummate policy and wisdom. It was by means of foreign connections that the stadtholder of Holland, whose powers at first were probably not equal to those of a president of the United States, became a sovereign hereditary prince before the late revolution in that country.If you look it up, you will see that Holland was ruled for a time by Spaniards, appointed stadtholders by Spain, and the office – as Tucker mentions – became hereditary. So his (and other Founders’) concerns were not for those born of foreigners on US soil who are US citizens, but for foreigners born elsewhere who are not, but who might be naturalized only for the purpose of seeking the presidency. See what Joseph Story has to say on this:
It cuts off all chances for ambitious foreigners, who might otherwise be intriguing for the office; and interposes a barrier against those corrupt interferences of foreign governments in executive elections, which have inflicted the most serious evils upon the elective monarchies of Europe. Germany, Poland, and even the pontificate of Rome, are sad, but instructive examples of the enduring mischiefs arising from this source.This is well explained by Alexander Hamilton in the Federalist Papers #68
these most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union?Showing that the chief concern was not US citizens born of foreign immigrants, but rather concern about foreign governments trying to insert their own officials into the US government.
As for dual citizenship, obviously Cruz has lived as an American all his life. As Americans, our laws should apply, and the fact that another country also confers citizenship should not be allowed to control American law. What of the countries (such as Ireland) that used to confer citizenship on grandchildren of citizens? Should their law control American choices?
I stated that I intend to protect and the defend the Constitution. We merely disagree with the meaning of Article 2, Section 1, Clause 5. I never accused you of anything.
Uh huh. Riiight.
You do realize that much of our law is based on English Common Law, don't you? That much of the Constitution was based on English Common Law? That Justice Scalia frequently cites Common Law, and said
use British law for those elements of the Constitution that were taken from Britain. The phrase "the right to be confronted with witnesses against him" -- what did confrontation consist of in England? It had a meaning to the American colonists, all of whom were intimately familiar with my friend Blackstone. And what they understood when they ratified this Constitution was that they were affirming the rights of Englishmen. So to know what the Constitution meant at the time, you have to know what English law was at the time.
>>Yes, blogs are the definitive authority on pretty much everything.<<
I thought it was presented much better than the majority of news articles everybody else accepts as worthy of commentary on this site. Maybe you just dislike blogs and favor newspaper/magazine articles.
Since the same Founders declared a person born overseas to US citizen parents to be a natural born citizen (1790), then they must have decided that divided allegiance was more than a matter of location of birth or the citizenship laws of any particular country.
In fact, there are countries in the world which do not give automatic citizenship to those born in their country. (Which I actually agree with and wish our country would copy.)
So, you're telling me that if Ted Cruz had been born in Australia, which doesn't give automatic citizenship, that he would be just fine with you.
Justice Scalia: "Now, my theory of what I do when I interpret the American Constitution is I try to understand what it meant, what was understood by the society to mean when it was adopted. And I don't think it changes since then."
"Now, obviously if you have that philosophy ... foreign law is irrelevant with one exception: Old English law, because phrases like "due process," the "right of confrontation" and things of that sort were all taken from English law. So the reality is I use foreign law more than anybody on the Court. But it's all old English law."
I think all of us are in agreement that Ted Cruz is a brilliant conservative. I might take that a step further and state that he may be sly like a fox, too.
He may also end up being the most Patriotic and Republic-saving elected official in US history that has never held, or ever hold the office of Presidency.
Bear with me...
We’ve had now about 5-1/2 years of inarguable the most un-American leadership in our history. There have been laws passed that all of us agree are egregious violations of our Constitution. On that point there can be no disagreement.
But, what if it were determined by an appropriate “controlling legal authority” that Barack Obama was somehow ineligible to be President of the United States? Hmm, that would provide for a very interesting and unprecedented turn of events now, wouldn’t it?
ObamaCare - gone. All the other crap - gone. One cannot sign into law things when one is not eligible to occupy the office one holds now, would they? They all become invalid.
We all screamed and howled back in 2008 and beyond when no one bothered to investigate the background of this fellow. Nancy Pelosi certified him as eligible in a sworn document.
I am beginning to be of the belief that Ted Cruz himself KNOWS he is not eligible to be President of United States and is playing the media like a cheap fiddle right now. How many times had we wished the media would have done their job on Obama? A million, a billion, a trillion?
Ted Cruz makes a simple visit to Iowa recently and now come all of the stories from the MSM about questions of eligibility. Very interesting indeed..... And, you all know these stories will ramp up in volume over time.
I think the guy has made a brilliant move, knowing fully all along he wasn’t eligible (hell, he’s been a Senator for such a short time).
He’s figured (like I said before, I think he’s brilliant) if he cannot rely on the RINO culture and the useless Democrats, he may be able to change things another way.
Stop thinking in conventional means. This war for the restoration of our Republic will be won in a fashion similar to the unconventional means our Patriots took in using guerrilla warfare tactics against our British foe. They were unprepared to do battle beneath the trenches.
Sly like a fox Cruz is.......
(Tennessee Nana made reference to her opinion in post 85 - nice job)
Maybe you just better keep on making assumptions.
They amuse me.
You said, “He never had to because he was already born with Canadian Citizenship.”
There was a birth certificate but he never verbally claimed double allegiance and only knew America from the age of 2 or 4 yrs. old. When he reached adulthood, he didn't verbally claim it, either, because in his mind he only had allegiance to this country.
Contrast that with a person who verbally claims double citizenship and hangs on to both. With Cruz, it is just a piece of paper and he is canceling that piece of paper because it is irrelevant to him as his country is America, the citizenship given him by his mother.
I'm though with this on this thread because it's just like the other threads that have come up about this - and I don't care what the birthers think -
TED CRUZ FOR PRESIDENT to save this country if it can be saved.
>> “Hamilton told us to look to the language of the English legal system to define the terms of the Constitution.” <<
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Hamilton was not a patriot, he was a banker from Neves.
Second, we have no parallels with England. We cannot adopt their definitions because we have none of their kind of population. We have no “subjects,” and they have no citizens. What was “understood” by essentially slave subjects was overcome by sovereign citizens.
That is why our founders looked to other nations for our definitions; we rejected almost all of what was England.
CORRECTION IN ADDRESSEE: Apologies to both Triple and C. Edmund.
The original intent of the “natural born” requirement for presidents was so that they would not have divided allegiances.
Since the same Founders declared a person born overseas to US citizen parents to be a natural born citizen (1790), then they must have decided that divided allegiance was more than a matter of location of birth or the citizenship laws of any particular country.
In fact, there are countries in the world which do not give automatic citizenship to those born in their country. (Which I actually agree with and wish our country would copy.)
So, you’re telling me that if Ted Cruz had been born in Australia, which doesn’t give automatic citizenship, that he would be just fine with you.
Levin flunks Constitution 101 by misinterpreting Natural Born....our Founding Fathers put that in there so we would not have foreigners ruling the US....like the foreigners ruling Great Britain at the time...King George III was German
Levin was also Obama Supporter on the Eligibility issue....and GOP refusing to make Obama Eligibility a main issue actively aided Obama in 2008 and 2012
As for Cruz....I have no problem supporting him. Unlike Obama...Cruz never hid his foreign birth...never
But....mark my words: The biggest Obama Supporters on the Obama Eligibility issue will be the same ones attacking Cruz on his eligibility....and that includes Levin. I do not trust anyone who is Obama Supporter on the Eligibility issue
If the laws in effect at the time of your birth make you a citizen of the United States, then you are a Natural Born Citizen. Unfortunately the Congress has seen fit to make every child born in the United States an automatic Citizen of the United States and that makes a lot of people with no loyalty at all to the United States Citizens at birth.
At any rate, there is no legal basis for declaring that Ted Cruz is not a Natural Born Citizen. The only ones who claim otherwise are those who apparently have some psychic connection to the founders and are able to read their minds 200 years after they died.
This is a distraction and too many FREEPERS are joining in the effort to undermine Ted Cruz based on some ridiculous notion that there are three kinds of Citizens and that somehow you can be a citizen at birth without becoming a "Natural Born Citizen". There is no basis in history for any such notion. It is as illogical an argument as anyone can possibly think up. Those who promulgate this argument over and over are doing nothing but buying into the effort to destroy Ted Cruz my any means necessary. For that reason, those who continue to post this kind of nonsense have no place at Free Republic. They can spew their nonsense elsewhere.
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