Posted on 11/14/2012 8:14:02 AM PST by DiogenesLamp
A lot of people who were against us "birthers" said the issue was nonsense, and a distraction, and that we should quit wasting time on it because "we have to defeat Barack Obama at the ballot box." As a person who saw how the media swindled us out of the 2008 election, I never took it as a given that we would be ABLE to defeat Obama at the ballot box. Why would the media not do the same thing to us in 2012? Given that the election fraud perpetrated by Democrats had been taken to an entirely new level by this Chicago crew, I saw it as a real danger that winning an election against this guy was no sure thing. (He Cheats)
What I also saw in 2008 was someone who was inexplicably sensitive to issues regarding his birth and citizenship, and who displayed a degree of stubbornness towards it that could only be explained by the possibility that he was hiding something really bad. It was a loose thread sticking out. I had always thought we should pull at that thread and see what unravels, but there were those of you out there (and you know who you are) that were absolutely terrified and/or disdainful of touching this issue, and preferred to rely exclusively on a political campaign to save us from this Communist.
You have to look at what “natural born citizen” always meant. It never required anyone to have citizen parents. So if you were born in the United States, then you were and are eligible to run for President.
And thank you, very much, for your service to this country.
Persuading anyone is not going to work for these two reasons:
1. The MSM is the propaganda arm of the revolutionaries.
2. The election was stolen and the next one won’t be any better. Elections don’t matter any more.
I want to do it, and I'd be happy to...just find me the right people where it would actually matter. I can prove he's constitutionally ineligible to be president and it doesn't matter where he was born!
Apple Blossom
The biggest problem I see next time around is if we get some kind of mass amnesty and greatly expand the number of Hispanic voters. I am alarmed about that.
Otherwise, Obama will no longer be a factor and people are likely to be tired by then of what we’ve gotten from the left.
We may have crossed some bridges that we can’t come back from, but I’m sure that not all of the bridges we’ve crossed are one way. It’s kind of like the stock market. When everyone has pretty much given up on the stock market altogether and pessimism reigns supreme, that’s the time to buy.
The fortunes of a political party, either one, are a lot the same. When people believe that conservatism has been declared dead... that’s when the next Reagan is likely to appear.
If we just could have overcome that voting process that has been overtaken by no interest in photo ID's, and allowing dead people and illegals to vote, then we might have had a chance! If we don't clean up that mess, we will never again have a valid election. As it stands, I don't think we've had an honest election since '96...maybe even earlier.
Apple Blossom
Well said. I couldn’t agree more.
Apple Blossom
What if a man posing as a woman was successful in marrying a woman and the truth was not learned until they entered the bridal chamber.
What would be the legal way to get the marriage anulled?
The same process would apply to obammy if his credentials were proven fraudulent.
Anullment would be the way to go. He wouldn't qualify for constitutional processes anymore than an enemy would be upon being captured.
There are worse fates he could suffer. Especially if the bride's father and brothers got involved.
What I am surmising here as that the jury has not even been shown all the evidence yet.
The way things are going lately is it looks like the bride is going to be forced to accept the marriage and the experience of strange sex.
No matter how many times they deny it, I am convinced they are paid trolls.
YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE ( And...We do, too.)
I do take one comfort. Yuri Besmenov warned us. He said the the first people that the communists lined up against a wall and shot were the Useful Idiots. Well,... In the coming tyranny, the communists will go after the trolls first.
Anyone here have the feeling that they just got forcibly raped by a person of the same sex? With all his punchy outlaw gang members circle jerking and cheering him on?
I’m with you of course but...
don’t expect any remorse or apology in the future from after-birthers.
Obama could steal all their wealth, send their children to war, nuke and decimate our country while fulling admitting that he is not a natural born citizen or foreign born and after-birthers (Reps, Dems) will still bash birthers.
They would have to face up to the fact that they let this destroyer in the front door. They won’t do it. It would screw up their cognitive dissonance.
Better to bash a birther than save their children’s future. After all they might get called a mean name.
PART OF IT!! GUILTY AS HELL! ACCESSORIES! HELPERS! AGENTS!
We will not forgot WHO REMAINED SILENT!
“Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” — DIETRICH BONHOEFFER
They will be standing among the charred ruins saying to themselves, “Well, at least I’m not a birther.”
See my post just above, wintertime.
Damn it! The “conservatism is dead” crap is coming from REPUBLICANS - teh elites - beacuse they hate conservatism! They hate the Tea Party! THey hate Sarah Palin!
They effing ignore the STOLEN ELECTION!
You’re blind if you do not see this.
If a perfect in every way conservative R were running for President the election would still have been stolen.
This loss had nothing to do with a non-perfect candidate, or more people being gung ho commies for 0bastard.
IT WAS CRIMINAL MASSIVE FRAUD.
Are blind or part of the problem?
They will be standing among the charred ruins saying to themselves, “Well, at least I’m not a birther.”
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Very funny in a sick way. :-(
I don’t think I’m either.
I also think that if and when a conservative candidate gets enough votes, we won’t have to worry about electoral fraud.
Lastly, I don’t think conservatism is anywhere near dead.
if and when a conservative candidate gets enough votes,
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From here on out we will never know if any Republican conservative or RINO has gotten enough votes because the elections will always go to the Democrat Marxist.
Anyway....What do you define as “enough” to overcome the fraud? 55%? 65% 99% ( eye roll)
Apparently you have not a single clue about how much massive voter fraud there was.
Massive.
It doesn’t matter who runs again. Massive voter fraud will ensure a loss for the Republican.
Have you not read the numerous articles about the massive voter fraud?
Before the election I thought that enough votes would counter act the fraud. But it’s now a science. There is no way to have a non-stolen election now.
Both the Republican governor of Hawaii (Linda Lingle) and the spokesperson for the DOH have said 0bama was born there. Many of those bringing up reasons why the released COLB and long form are forgeries have either been discredited themselves, or had their reasons discredited.
The legal grounds that are inadequate are printed right on the COLB: "this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."
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