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VANITY You Are Transported To The Year 742 AD Europe And Allowed To Bring 3 Items From The Future
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Posted on 10/14/2012 8:02:34 AM PDT by trailhkr1

What would they be? A gun? Then you are only allowed to bring 2 bullets..see how that works?? Some basic ground rules..has to be a realistic items you can get you hands on today..no tanks etc. You are going with just the clothes on your back + the 3 items to survive an mingle with the folks of the day. Never coming back.

Saw this question on another site and wanted to see what you guys would come up with..I will post that link tomorrow after everyone has a chance to come up with their ideas..some people came up with good ideas (detailed history text of the time in Europe, antibiotics) and other people's ideas..not so much.


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To: trailhkr1

1 case of toilet paper. Another case of toilet paper. Another case of toilet paper.


181 posted on 10/14/2012 9:05:23 PM PDT by redhead (Guns don't kill people...Planned Parenthood kills people.)
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To: trailhkr1

1.Bible
2.wind up flashlight
3.water filter straw


182 posted on 10/14/2012 9:14:21 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: babble-on

“they had bibles in 742 AD!”

Not for the common people. The Gutenberg printing press made it’s debut in 1436.


183 posted on 10/14/2012 9:17:34 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: thecodont
Yes.

Not much of it survived but there was a lot of cheap fiction written and published back then. The idea that they sat around reading philosophy, history and what we would consider literature is based on the fact that those were the books that were copied onto parchment. “The Adventures of Zorbator the Great” was not worthy of being copied.

We do have a few of the most popular that survived like "Daphnis and Chloe" but mostly what we have are scraps.

184 posted on 10/14/2012 9:35:09 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: RJS1950; SunkenCiv; no-to-illegals; All

The best most accurate flintlock rifle made historically. Lead balls and gunpowder can be made, and with the flint and steel you can make fire.

The Army field manual on first aid & general medicine (I presume there is some such animal). Note, you can make your own penicillin by taking an orange or other citrus fruit and letting it spoil. You will get a fine green mold. That is raw penicillin. You can scrape it off an use it. Most bad germs grow in an alkaline environment. The citrus is acid. I have used this on minor cuts, pimples and sores. Works like a charm.

A comprehensive survivalist manual oriented to construction and engineering. My boys used to have things like the Anarchists Cook Book lying around. One son is now in special forces.


185 posted on 10/14/2012 9:36:44 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Old Retired Army Guy

Nah, all you need to do is stay away from rats and lice, and bathe.


186 posted on 10/14/2012 9:39:02 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear
Not much of it survived but there was a lot of cheap fiction written and published back then.

If someone had told me that there were gladiator "trading cards" (without the bubblegum) I'd have said they were crazy, then I read such things actually existed. Human nature doesn't change.

187 posted on 10/14/2012 9:40:49 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

If you planned to bring eyeglasses, you might be able to use that like a magnifying glass.


188 posted on 10/14/2012 9:41:45 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: svcw; All

Rose hips. Those little red/orange balls that are ripening up just now on a lot of rose bushes. Pick them, cut them up, dry or refrigerate, use for tea or soup. Drop into boiling water. Heating slowly will tend to destroy the vitamin C.

I debated saying a very large bottle of multivitamins and minerals.


189 posted on 10/14/2012 9:46:42 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: DManA; SunkenCiv; All

There is something called bog iron. We had it in New Jersey, it was smelted into iron and used for weapon and tool making. It is caused by the tannin from oaks and pines in the water interacting with iron deposits in the soil. Cakes up into hard chunks along water ways. I have seen old smelting chimneys constructed of stone in NJ about 15 or 20 feet tall.


190 posted on 10/14/2012 9:52:13 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: bigheadfred; All

Soap is not that hard. Basic ingredients, fat and lye from wood ash. Went to the fort at Boonesboro. There was a wooden box about 3 feet cubed. People in the fort brought their wood ash there and water was filtered through it and collected below for soap making. Beeswax makes the best candles, but tallow and lard will get the job done.


191 posted on 10/14/2012 9:58:12 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: RegulatorCountry; SunkenCiv; All

Someone else had the right idea with a Latin/English book. Latin was used by priests and a few literate people throughout Europe. With that you could find refuge in a monastery or nunnery until you learned the local language. I think in England they had Old Norse. I have a 15th century fascimile of a Spanish/English reader. In Spain they have had an academy for centuries to keep the language “pure”. Since I am fairly fluent in Spanish, it was actually easier to read and understand the Spanish than the English.


192 posted on 10/14/2012 10:09:41 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: thecodont
Shall I blow your mind and tell you that they did have chewing gum back then?

No bubblegum though.

193 posted on 10/14/2012 10:11:04 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
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To: trailhkr1
20 guys of the day rushing you in the woods out of nowhere and you would be dead meat...

I hate it when that happens.

194 posted on 10/14/2012 10:15:26 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: married21; All

Better have that letter written in Latin and Greek in ink on parchment.


195 posted on 10/14/2012 10:27:25 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

A two quart steel coking pot (to boil water), a magnesium flatrod for striking fire, a good Bowie knife. The next most valuable thing you would bring along is what is in your head ...


196 posted on 10/14/2012 10:27:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: MHGinTN

COOKING pot, not a coking pot. Time for bed ...


197 posted on 10/14/2012 10:28:37 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: trailhkr1
1) Realistic, valid history book
To set forth the coming Islam storm. To better prepare the Crusades for TOTAL success.

To instruct Europe of the necessary sanitary conditions, causes of the plague.

To set forth the concept, ideals, ideas of the Declaration of Independence/Constitution.

2) All inclusive medical book

3) Doug Henning's Wonderful World of Magic OR the Joy of Cooking (I'll need a job). ;)

198 posted on 10/14/2012 10:37:06 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen
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To: MHGinTN

“The next most valuable thing you would bring along is what is in your head ...”

Probably the MOST important thing. The pot, fire making tools and knife were around back then. Although good Bowie knife would be a lot better. But even basic knowledge would be helpful (as posted above - bathing, washing hands, clean hygiene, etc.), and of course even more knowledge such as steel fabrication, natural medicine, etc. would get you even farther.

I think it is the hippie on that “Dual Survival” show that says something like “The most important survival gear is what is in your head. And it’s extremely portable.”


199 posted on 10/14/2012 10:44:27 PM PDT by 21twelve (So I [God] gave them over to their stubborn hearts to follow their own devices. Psalm 81:12)
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To: 21twelve
I am assuming the most dangerous period is when first ‘on the scene’, so the basics to survive alone in the wild would be essential, to acclimate until ready to interact with the indigenous populace. Wouldn't want to be dropped int he middle of a village or town of 742AD. I would want to work my way slowly into the locale. Eventually, what is in my head would align me with 'The Church' or The Authorities, but not in any way a threat to their power.
200 posted on 10/14/2012 10:51:16 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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