***Sad But True: O'Reilly Says Oswald Shot JFK***

Stardate: 1210.5

[The Wizard]

While both my Aunt and I watch Bill O'Reilly every weeknight, I was very disappointed to hear him say that his new book says that Oswald shot JFK......

While I will continue to watch the show because there are things I like, my confidence and trust in the things he says has been greatly diminished.

You cannot shoot a man in the front from the back.

There is no need to go into everything we have written about here many times before, I just thought that rather than have some of you waste your money on the book, I'd share one of the erroneous conclusions contained within, and save you the time and money, it's just more cover up and misinformation, and I am truly sad to say so......

[navyblue]

The ratings for rifle are expert, sharpshooter and then marksman. Marksman is the lowest rated. Even I qualified as a marksman. It’s on my DD-214. And that was with only two times at the range in San Diego.

[doc1019]

Read all the books and other information I have read and gather your own conclusion. Don’t base your conclusions on a few books and newspaper articles by those with an agenda.

I have read everything I can get my hands on regarding this event (I was seventeen at the time) wishing to learn the truth. I read everything with an open mind, wishing that Oswald did, in fact, do it. The more I read, the less I see Oswald as the assassin.

[yarddog]

It was O’Reilly who shot Kennedy. He is now trying to put the blame on Oswald.

[Seizethecarp]

“I visited the MLK museum and studied the James Earl Ray items that were encased. It screamed Soviet agent to me.”

I like it! Care to elaborate on the items?

[ETL]

From the Wall Street Journal
NOVEMBER 24, 2007

Oswald was a dedicated communist who had defected to the Soviet Union in 1959 out of disgust with American capitalism. After becoming disillusioned with Soviet life, he returned to the U.S. in 1962. In early 1963, he bought a scoped rifle through the mail and soon used it to fire a shot (which missed) at retired general Edwin Walker, the head of the John Birch Society in Dallas. In the summer of 1963, Oswald was active in street demonstrations in support of Castro. In September 1963, he visited the Soviet and Cuban embassies in Mexico City seeking a travel visa that would allow him to travel to Cuba.

Oswald was among the radicals of the time who saw Third World revolutionaries like Castro as the wave of the communist future. He was well aware of Kennedy's efforts to overthrow Castro's regime. As a Senate investigative committee suggested in 1975, Oswald shot Kennedy to interrupt his administration's plans to assassinate Castro or to overthrow his regime in Cuba.

Ignoring Oswald's communist links, journalists and political leaders quickly claimed the president was a martyr to civil rights. Earl Warren said that Kennedy had "suffered martyrdom as a result of the hatred and bitterness that has been injected into the life of our nation by bigots." Martin Luther King said the assassination had to be viewed against the backdrop of violence against civil rights marchers in the South. James Reston wrote in the New York Times that "something in the nation itself, some strain of madness and violence, had destroyed the highest symbol of law and order."

The consensus opinion was that Kennedy was a victim of hate and bigotry, a casualty of his support for civil rights. The Cold War and Kennedy's ongoing feud with Castro were rarely mentioned as factors behind the assassination. The reasons? Mrs. Kennedy wanted her husband remembered as a modern-day Abraham Lincoln. Lyndon Johnson feared complicating relations with the Soviet Union. Liberals feared a replay of the McCarthy period, when the Wisconsin senator inflamed public opinion about fears of domestic communism.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB119586848318702756.html

[ETL]

Lee Harvey Oswald
From Wikipedia (with lots of references at site) :

Around the age of fifteen, he became an ardent Marxist solely from his private reading on the topic. He wrote in his diary, "I was looking for a key to my environment, and then I discovered socialist literature. I had to dig for my books in the back dusty shelves of libraries."[13] At 16 he wrote to the Socialist Party of America, stating that he was a Marxist who had been studying socialist principles for "well over fifteen months," and asked for information about their youth league.[14]

While in the Marines, Oswald was trained in the use of the M1 Garand rifle. Following that training, he was tested in December of 1956, and obtained a score of 212, which was 2 points above the minimum for qualifications as a sharpshooter. In May 1959, on another range, Oswald scored 191, which was 1 point over the minimum for ranking as a marksman.[17]

Small and frail compared to the other Marines, he was nicknamed Ozzie Rabbit after the cartoon character. His shyness and Soviet sympathies alienated him from his fellow Marines. Ostracism only seemed to provoke him into being a stauncher, more outspoken communist. For his steadfast beliefs, his nickname ultimately became Oswaldskovich.

Life in the Soviet Union

In October 1959, Oswald immigrated to the Soviet Union. He was nineteen, and the trip was planned well in advance. Along with having taught himself rudimentary Russian, he had saved $1,500 of his Marine Corps salary,[19] got an early "hardship" discharge by (falsely) claiming he needed to care for his injured mother,[20] got a passport, and submitted several fictional applications to foreign universities in order to obtain a student visa (and possibly help avoid Marine Corps reserve duty).

After spending only three days with his mother in Fort Worth, he departed by ship from New Orleans on September 20, 1959, for the Soviet Union, first arriving in Le Havre in France, then to London,England and eventually Oswald to a Finnair flight to Helsinki, Finland as part of a package tour. Oswald landed to Helsinki airport in October 10 at 23.30 a.m. he registered at the Hotel Torni but two days later , he moved to the Kurki Hotel.Oswald applied for a visa at the embassy on October 12, his first business day in Helsinki. Oswalds visa was issued on October 14. It was valid until October 20 and permitted him to take one trip of not more than 6 days to the Soviet Union. He left from Helsinki Central Railway Station by train next day on October 15 to Moscow and when he crossed the Finnish-Russian border at Vainikkala, he arrived to Moscow on October 16." [21] When he arrived in the Soviet Union and showed up unexpectedly at the Embassy in Moscow, he said he wanted to renounce his U.S. citizenship.[22][23] When the Navy Department learned of this, it changed Oswald's Marine Corps discharge from "hardship/honorable" to "undesirable."[24]

Oswald told a reporter in Moscow, "For two years I've had it in my mind, don't form any attachments, because I knew I was going away. I was planning to divest myself of everything to do with the United States."[25] To another reporter he said, "I would not consider returning to the United States," and referred to the Soviet government as "my government."[26] His wish to remain in the Soviet Union was initially applauded by the Soviets, but although he had some technical knowledge acquired in the Marines they soon discovered he had little of real value to offer the Soviet Union and his application for Soviet residency was rejected.[27] In response, Oswald made a bloody but minor cut to his left wrist in his hotel room bathtub. After bandaging his superficial injury, the cautious Soviets kept him under psychiatric observation at the Botkin Hospital.[28][29] Although this attempt may have been no more than an attention-getting ruse, the Soviet government feared an international incident if he were to attempt something similar again.

New Orleans

Oswald returned to New Orleans, arriving on the morning of April 25, 1963 looking for work. After Oswald got a job as a machinery greaser with the Reily Coffee Company in May, Marina was driven there by family friend Ruth Paine. Oswald was fired for inefficiency and dereliction of duty on July 19.

During this period, Oswald began to consider returning to the Soviet Union or going to Cuba.[57] He had Marina write to the Soviet Embassy in Washington, D.C. about the possibility of their returning to the Soviet Union.[58] His Marxist ideals became focused on Fidel Castro and Cuba and he soon became a vocal pro-Castro advocate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Harvey_Oswald

[SkyDancer]

Scary.

[The KG9 Kid]

An average Marine rifleman who’s initial qual’ed 212 on the KD course (second highest rating) like Oswald did is a shooter superior to just about every other American male.— even those who might consider themselves good shots with a rifle. That’s what ‘mediocre’ means in the ‘Corps.

I qualified Expert rifleman just ten points higher than Oswald. Got the little medal and everything.

[CodeToad]

Anyone that has actually reviewed the data and seen the re-enactments knows Oswald did, indeed, shoot JFK. I’ve stood in that window and realized I could have made that shot with a pistol, a slingshot, and even thrown a rock and hit JFK, maybe even with a spitwad.

[Oztrich Boy]

[ElectionInspector]

.he was shot in the back of his head

...oh yeah, that must be why the back of his head exploded all over the backseat and trunk!

try Tex Marr if you want to get something other than Snarlin’ Arlin Spector’s take on things...

ymmv

[fatman6502002]

“Which is funny, because the range NCOs and his battle buddies have repeatedly said he was one of the worst marksmen they’ve ever seen. And one of his qualification scores was within two points of being a no-go.”

None of his score cards show poor marksmanship, in fact they all show very high scores. Again take off the tinfoil hat and accept reality. You’re continuing to fight a lost battle. I’m just a deer hunter but with a properly sighted rifle with a scope I, and most other deer hunters, could make those shots, let alone someone with professional Marine Corps training. Especially considering that the limousene was travelling at about 5mph and moving straight away from Oswald at the time of the fatal head shot. Sorry, not a real difficult shot. All Oswald had to do was aim one or two dots above the middle of Kennedy’s head and the the relative motion of Kennedy (straight away from Oswald) combined with the downward ballistic arc of a bullet travelling at approx 1200 fps adds up to the bullet and Kennedy’s head occupying the same space at the same time. In fact when one looks at the entrance wound at the rear occipital region of Kennedy’s head, it was just slightly under center in the vertical plane and slightly to the left in the horizontal plane (probably due to windage), of course all of this has to be measured taking into consideration relative position of Kennedy, slightly hunched over with arms locked at about the height of his throat and twisted slightly to the left. Also the exit wound is above his right eye and if one watches the slow motion frame by frame Zabruter film and the other one from ground level to Kennedy’s left one will see the brain matter and pieces of his skull exit from the front. This is really not rocket science it just takes one to acknowledge the actual physical, video and photographic evidence and then the truth shall set ye free once and for all.

[Peter ODonnell]

It was Dick Cheney, oh sorry, wrong conspiracy. Well he did shoot somebody in Texas.

[Oztrich Boy]

bullet travelling at approx 1200 fps

2200 fps

[Last Dakotan]

Thank you for well made points

[bgill]

All you have to do is go to the book depository site in Dallas, to the same window where Oswald supposedly shot Kennedy, and see if you believe it was Oswald who did it. Now maybe some sharpshooters could do it but Oswald was no sharpshooter. Oswald was a patsy - otherwise there was no reason to kill him.

BTDT. Standing at that window was one of those earth shattering moments and it told me everything. Oswald did not shoot Kennedy. No way. No how. That angle was all wrong.

[STD]

Who’s kidding who! It was a necessary evil. Drugged out pervert If he didn’t fall apart from his depravity first.

[STD]

Yes, I taped that show.

[DesertRhino]

46 yards, head shot at about 90. Easy easy easy. Not at all a difficult shot. But that said, i think he was in on it, but not alone. Like in that Oliver Stone move JFK, “who did the shooting is less important than the why”. I think the CIA was bitterly angry from the firing of Dulles, and also from not invading Cuba. The Mob basically lost a carribean Las Vegas when they lost Havana.

SO i think some unholy fusion of mob, CIA, and others did some combination of making it happen, covering it up, and burying it till 2028 or whatever. And it stinks to high heaven that he’s telling everyone he’s a patsy, and the BAM, a “patriotic mobster” kills him before he can talk. JFK and his brother were not exactly on good terms with the mob. It also stinks to high heaven that when the house had it’s committee to reopen the case in 75, suddenly a new wave of mobsters was killed. Sam Giancana was one, right before he was going to appear.

I think Oswald was involved in something, and probably even one of the shooters. But we were lied to badly about this. I doubt we will ever know the truth.