Posted on 10/01/2012 11:16:12 PM PDT by Olog-hai
Over the past few centuries, science can be said to have gradually chipped away at the traditional grounds for believing in God. Much of what once seemed mysterious—the existence of humanity, the life-bearing perfection of Earth, the workings of the universe—can now be explained by biology, astronomy, physics and other domains of science.
Although cosmic mysteries remain, Sean Carroll, a theoretical cosmologist at the California Institute of Technology, says there's good reason to think science will ultimately arrive at a complete understanding of the universe that leaves no grounds for God whatsoever. …
Another role for God is as a raison d'être for the universe. Even if cosmologists manage to explain how the universe began, and why it seems so fine-tuned for life, the question might remain why there is something as opposed to nothing. To many people, the answer to the question is God. According to Carroll, this answer pales under scrutiny. There can be no answer to such a question, he says. …
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The Vedic religion allowed for some interpretations that there was no deity.
Essentially it states that karma defines everything -- and since there is karma, there is no need for a God as a governor. Furthermore it states that if God is an enforcer, God would be either egoistic or altruistic. Now, God's motives cannot be assumed to be altruistic because an altruistic God would not create a world so full of suffering. If his motives are assumed to be egoistic, then God must be thought to have desire, as agency or authority cannot be established in the absence of desire. However, assuming that God has desire would contradict God's eternal freedom which necessitates no compulsion in actions.
Yes, one day science will disprove the existence of God, that day will be April 1st, 2893 and God will give science a big old whupping they won’t forget on April 2nd, 2893.
Any other questions?
Science is God showing Man a little leg then kicking back with a laugh until time to show some more.
‘There was a group of scientists, and they were all sitting around discussing which one of them was going to go to God and tell him that they didn’t need him anymore.
‘One of the scientists volunteered and went to tell God he was no longer needed. The scientist says to God: “God, you know, a bunch of us have been thinking, and I’ve come to tell you that we really don’t need you anymore. I mean, we’ve been coming up with great theories and ideas, we’ve cloned sheep, and we’re on the verge of cloning humans. So as you can see, we really don’t need you.”
‘God nods understandingly and says, “I see. Well, no hard feelings. But before you go, let’s have a contest. What do you think?”
‘The scientist says, “Sure. What kind of contest?”
‘God replies, “A human-making contest where we make a human being.”
‘The scientist quickly agrees, “Sure! No problem.”
‘The scientist bends down and picks up a handful of dirt and says, “Okay, I’m ready!”
‘God shakes that divine head, “No, no, no…you go get your own dirt.”’
Just heard that joke from mynpastorvthe other day...;)
We were talking about educated fools and their wishful thinking and how stupid they were in not being able to understand that our knowledge is too limited and that our capabilities are too finite to be able to grasp how our very existence came to be. Here they are thinking that Christians believe God will be in a white robe flying around the sky in a chariot while we are thinking that He is an omnipotent being that does not have to travel from point A to B like we do, that He is the ultimate Scientist and Physician and has intellect far and above what any man can conceive. No, the educated fools aren’t thinking outside the box and being “intelligent”...lol
I have tried that before here. Doesn’t work - too many creationists on FR that will never entertain the idea that God put a system in place for evolution.
Isn’t that another form of creationism?
Evolution is pure chance right? Random mutation coupled with natural selection.
If you add in a dose of “God” in the mix - it is no longer random.
“Although cosmic mysteries remain, Sean Carroll, a theoretical cosmologist at the California Institute of Technology, says there’s good reason to think science will ultimately arrive at a complete understanding of the universe that leaves no grounds for God whatsoever.”
Book to follow, foundations of religion and science shaken by controversial new theory, ground breaking study, blah and more blah. Just a few a little details to be worked out like....like....where do they find these people?
Hmm. I think the Prodigal Son would disagree.
Since you cannot prove a negative, you cannot prove God does not exist.
No competent scientist would assert a null hypothesis.
God will “rule out” scientists with a mere flick of an inconsequential mile-wide asteroid someday.
Over the past few centuries, science can be said to have gradually chipped away at the traditional grounds for believing in God.
When the very first sentence is this idiotic there is little hope for the ones thst follow...
I think Darwin proved Adaptation but not Evolution. After all you don’t see cross-species breeding that I’m aware of.
“god created evolution. problem solved”
You’d think.
Scientist I know are fine with this.
Creationist may crucify you for suggesting it.
Why couldn’t He? Peronally I believe all we have seen is adaptation and the evolvement of species as they acclimate to their environment.
“Although cosmic mysteries remain, Sean Carroll, a theoretical cosmologist at the California Institute of Technology, says there’s good reason to think science will ultimately arrive at a complete understanding of the universe that leaves no grounds for God whatsoever.”
NEVER HAPPEN! As soon as it does all their funding will dry up and they will have to go out and work for a living.
We call them Pop Stars... :0)
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