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The climate just turned cold for non-physicists
Star Ledger ^ | 09.06.2009 | Paul Mulshine

Posted on 09/06/2011 7:14:57 PM PDT by Coleus

Henrik Svensmark on Global Warming (part 1)

Question: What could a climate scientist bring to the debate among physicists over the interaction of cosmic rays with the Earth’s atmosphere?

Answer: the coffee.

Physicists have long maintained that the question of climate change was properly within the realm of physics rather than that of those glorified weathermen who call themselves “climatologists.” Last week we got confirmation of that. It came in the form of a study by physicists in Switzerland .  The study, which was published in the prestigious peer-reviewed science publication Nature, gave support to an alternative theory of climate change first proposed in the late 1990s by a Danish physicist named Henrik Svensmark.

Svensmark proposed that the wild swings in climate over the eons could not be attributed to a cause as minor as slight increases in gases such as carbon dioxide. Instead, he theorized, those swings could be caused by solar activity. Cosmic rays from the sun might play a key role in cloud formation in the Earth’s atmosphere. Clouds can trap heat.  That was the theory. But like all theories, it had to be tested in the lab. The lab in question was the CERN particle accelerator in Geneva . And sure enough, the study showed that ionization increases the nucleation rate of condensation nuclei.

(Excerpt) Read more at blog.nj.com ...


TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; cosmicrays; globalwarming; henriksvensmark; mulshine; svensmark
Svensmark: “global warming stopped and a cooling is beginning” – “enjoy global warming while it lasts”
1 posted on 09/06/2011 7:15:03 PM PDT by Coleus
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To: Coleus
Question: What could a climate scientist bring to the debate among physicists over the interaction of cosmic rays with the Earth’s atmosphere? Answer: the coffee.
LOL!

I'm using that one in the liberal cesspool where I work!

2 posted on 09/06/2011 7:25:49 PM PDT by samtheman (Palin. In your heart you know she's right.)
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To: steelyourfaith

Ping.


3 posted on 09/06/2011 7:25:53 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Coleus

Awesome Post


4 posted on 09/06/2011 7:28:42 PM PDT by dila813
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; 75thOVI; agrace; ...

Thanks Coleus.


5 posted on 09/06/2011 7:32:56 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Coleus; Sidebar Moderator

Please adjust the article’s date back to 2009. Good article, btw.


6 posted on 09/06/2011 7:33:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Coleus

I remember reading about this back in the 1970’s.


7 posted on 09/06/2011 7:39:12 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (General James Mattoon Scott, where are you when we need you? We need a regime change.)
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To: samtheman
"A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee."

- Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy about Barack Obama

8 posted on 09/06/2011 7:50:16 PM PDT by JPG (Palin '12)
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To: Coleus
Cosmic rays from the sun might play a key role in cloud formation
Unless I'm much mistaken, it’s not the cosmic rays from the sun that play a role in cloud formation. It is the high-energy galactic cosmic rays originate from outer space, not the sun. The solar wind from an active sun tends to block the high-energy galactic cosmic rays that form the nuclei of water droplets that form clouds. When the sun is less active there are more clouds and a cooler climate.
9 posted on 09/06/2011 7:57:34 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Hiddigeigei

originate = originating


10 posted on 09/06/2011 8:03:03 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Coleus

Climatologists. Sounds too much like cosmetologists.


11 posted on 09/06/2011 8:16:13 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: Army Air Corps; proud_yank; Bockscar; grey_whiskers; WL-law; IrishCatholic; Whenifhow; ...
Thanx for the ping Army Air Corps & SunkenCiv !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

12 posted on 09/06/2011 8:18:20 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Thanx for the ping SunkenCiv !
13 posted on 09/06/2011 8:19:42 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (If it's "green" ... it's crap !!!)
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To: Coleus
I've been reading Svensmark's work for years, even paying beer money for science papers, because of an interest in the way solar cycles affect the incidence of cosmic rays.

I've rarely read the work of any scientist more cautious or exacting. Anyone with more than a Discovery Channel's knowledge of cosmology who has read his stuff reached their own conclusions.

Svalgaard's work is great, too.

This is why you should never let folks who prefer to look like they understand the science (instead of those unafraid to say 'I don't know') be in charge of who get's the money.

14 posted on 09/06/2011 8:28:23 PM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: Hiddigeigei
Unless I'm much mistaken, it’s not the cosmic rays from the sun that play a role in cloud formation. It is the high-energy galactic cosmic rays originate from outer space, not the sun.

You are right, as the article's linked piece by Professor Henrik Svensmark makes very clear.

15 posted on 09/06/2011 8:36:31 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Coleus

TPTB will never give up on regulating CO2 to mitigate global climate change. It allows them to much leverage to control every aspect of our life. (Just go here http://users.sisqtel.net/armstrng/agenda21.htm about 2/3 down the page to see how California liberals are using this to move people into densified urban areas and then to control them through layers and layers of regulation.)


16 posted on 09/06/2011 10:00:26 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Prospero

Perhaps you can explain where all these cosmic rays came from and why are there so many within the Milky Way ? If they all came from super novas, would that not require a significant amount of cosmic ray emissions from these super nova ? Also, are the cosmic rays affected by gravity, since they apparently have mass. Could their density be higher in the galactic plane due to the effects gravity has on space time ? And what speed are they traveling at ? Just curious. Was shocked to discover they have mass.


17 posted on 09/06/2011 10:43:01 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Coleus

This story has made it’s way to the Wall Street Journal:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424053111904537404576554750502443800.html?mod=WSJ_Opinion_LEADTop


18 posted on 09/07/2011 4:15:04 PM PDT by ChessExpert (The unemployment rate was 4.5% when Democrats took control of Congress. What is it today?)
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Landmark Study Links Cosmic Rays to Climate Change
19 posted on 09/07/2011 4:38:31 PM PDT by Coleus
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