Posted on 08/30/2011 8:16:45 PM PDT by decimon
New investigations at an iconic cave site on the Channel Island of Jersey have led archaeologists to believe the Neanderthals have been widely under-estimated.
Neanderthals survived in Europe through a number of ice ages and died out only about 30,000 years ago.
The site at La Cotte de St Brelade reveals a near-continuous use of the cave site spanning over a quarter of a million years, suggesting a considerable success story in adapting to a changing climate and landscape, prior to the arrival of Homo sapiens.
New investigations at an iconic cave site on the Channel Island of Jersey have led archaeologists to believe the Neanderthals have been widely under-estimated.
Neanderthals survived in Europe through a number of ice ages and died out only about 30,000 years ago.
The site at La Cotte de St Brelade reveals a near-continuous use of the cave site spanning over a quarter of a million years, suggesting a considerable success story in adapting to a changing climate and landscape, prior to the arrival of Homo sapiens.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
Jersey shore ping.
This cracks me up. If two creatures can mate and deliver fertile offspring aren’t they the same species? Apparently, from what I read, that is the case between Neanderthals and “modern” men.
Modern biology has about 1000 definitions of “species”. Based on whichever bit of evidence is being examined, they choose a definition of species which does not invalidate Evolution. It’s really more Art than Science.
Is that “The Situation”?
For sure these Big Media excuses for Science Reporting leave you dumber than you were before you read them.
Clearly our some of our ancient ancestors had more of a problem being inclusive than others.
You are 100% correct.
I did read the article before I posted this. Interesting. The Digging for Britain link at the article does not work. It sounds worth watching.
I believe that there is a problem in describing "species." I know that horses and donkeys can produce a sturdy work animal called a mule. Mules aren't supposed to be able to reproduce but, from time to time, they do reproduce.
But, in the case of traditional humans and Neanderthals, I believe that one would have to be very drunk to tie up with one of those.
I believe that there is a problem in describing "species." I know that horses and donkeys can produce a sturdy work animal called a mule. Mules aren't supposed to be able to reproduce but, from time to time, they do reproduce.
But, in the case of traditional humans and Neanderthals, I believe that one would have to be very drunk to tie up with one of those.
God, I hope Sunken Civ doesn’t drag out that worn-out quote about Neanderthal jawbones again. :-)
Guidos! Proof that Man hasn’t evolved.
but, from time to time, they do reproduce.
That is something I did not know.
Do you have a link to back the up (I’m not doubting you, I really am curious)
The Neanderthals still survive in the British Labor Party.
Their caves don’t have stalagtites but something of a similar name, Stalintites.
Mules and Hinnies have 63 chromosomes, a mixture of the horse's 64 and the donkey's 62. The different structure and number usually prevents the chromosomes from pairing up properly and creating successful embryos, rendering most mules infertile.
There are no recorded cases of fertile mule stallions. A few female mules have produced offspring when mated with a purebred horse or donkey. Since 1527 there have been more than 60 documented cases of foals born to female mules around the world. There are reports that a mule in China produced a foal in 1984. In Morocco, in early 2002, a mare mule produced a rare foal. In 2007 a mule named Kate gave birth to a mule son in Colorado. Blood and hair samples were tested verifying that the mother was a mule and the colt was indeed her offspring.
http://www.horseforum.com/horse-breeding/mule-reproduction-47843/
There seems to be a problem with disparate numbers of chromosomes between horses and mules, but apparently, this problem is "sidetracked" from time to time.
The question is posed at top of page and you'll have to cursor down about half a page to see the answer.
Thanks, I’ll look at it. These issues are not simple.
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