Modern humans crowded out Europe's Neanderthals

AFP ^ | July 28, 2011 | Unknown

[decimon]

A swell of modern humans outnumbered Neanderthals in Europe by nearly 10 to one, forcing their extinction 40,000 years ago, suggested a study of French archaeology sites on Thursday.

Scientists have long debated what caused the Neanderthals to die off rather suddenly, making way for the thriving population of more advanced Homo sapiens who likely moved in from Africa.

The latest theory, published in the journal Science, is based on a statistical analysis of artifacts and evidence from the Perigord region of southern France, where lies the largest concentration of Neanderthal and early modern human sites in Europe.

Researchers at the University of Cambridge found more sites where modern humans settled, larger settlement areas, greater densities of tools and bigger amounts of animal and food remains, suggesting Neanderthals were crowded out.

Homo sapiens also likely had more elaborate social networks and possibly sharper brains, as evidenced by the stone tools, jewelry and artwork they left behind which was much more advanced than Neanderthal creations.

[mamelukesabre]

A shortage of massive prey and the invention of the bow and arrow made extreme physical power obsolete. Even today you can find a small percentage of people who are capable of bench pressing 400-500+ pounds(even before steroids in fact) but these people do not have any measurable competitive advantage over us regular guys who max out at 225-275 lb bench press capabilities.

[mountainlion]

It seems like every week there is a new theory on that we are apes or something.

[OldNewYork]

Wait, does this mean I’m entitled to reparations from the Homo Sapiens that left Africa?

Haha, winning post.

Of course it does.

[Sacajaweau]

That's funny....Reminded me...Me and my OLDER bro had soup slurping contests. I had to put my hair in a pony tail.

Took me a while to figure out that he just enjoyed seeing "little miss perfect"...all slopped with soup.

[Sacajaweau]

Axctually....still a lot of guessing going on..

[mamelukesabre]

the weakest??

doubtful. They had to be stronger than the neanderthal woman or it wouldn’t have happened.

[allmendream]

What is NOT a guess is that the same markers indicating some 1-4% of Neanderthal ancestry is in ALL non-African populations, not just “white folks”.

Keep guessing.

[swamprebel]

"Scientists have long debated what caused the Neanderthals to die off"

Are you sure they are not hiding out in DC?

[count-your-change]

Latest Theory: Modern man displaced Neanderthals.

Modern man killed all the neanderthals

Modern man adsorbed Neanderthals

Modern man IS Neanderthals (Manderthals?)

Modern man missed Neanderthals

But wait! There's more!

[Flash Bazbeaux]

Charles Fort had the same idea.

“Throwbacks, translated to this Earth, would not, unless intensely atavistic, take to what we regard as vices, but to what their own far-advanced people regard perhaps as unmentionable, or anyway, unprintable degradations.

They would join our churches, and wallow in the pews. They’d lose all sense of decency and become college professors. Let a fall start, and the decline is swift. They’d end up as members of congress”

[CharlyFord]

I’ve read claims that H. sapiens sapiens interbred with H. sapiens neaderthalensis, and vice versa. We will probably never know the truth.

Which begs the question, has anyone checked the Muslim population for goat DNA?

[enduserindy]

“Which begs the question, has anyone checked the Muslim population for goat DNA?”

Nope but they did pass a new safe sex law, “..any goat that kicks must be labeled as such.”

Just for kicks since no one else said it on the postings, “there goes the neighborhood.”

[bcsco]

Kinda like pie eating contests. Fun to watch...

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

If the Neanderthal were close enough genetically to crossbreed with Homo Sapiens, being outnumbered they would disappear in a few generations.

Compare it to dog breeds. If you take 10 corgis and surround them with 100 dachshunds, in a few generations you will have only dachshunds. Granted some of them will have corgi blood in them, but from that point, the further you go, the more dachshund they are.

[SunkenCiv]

GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach	join list or digest view topics view or post blog bookmark post a topic subscribe
Thanks decimon. The Neandertal Enigma by James Shreeve in local libraries Frayer's own reading of the record reveals a number of overlooked traits that clearly and specifically link the Neandertals to the Cro-Magnons. One such trait is the shape of the opening of the nerve canal in the lower jaw, a spot where dentists often give a pain-blocking injection. In many Neandertal, the upper portion of the opening is covered by a broad bony ridge, a curious feature also carried by a significant number of Cro-Magnons. But none of the alleged 'ancestors of us all' fossils from Africa have it, and it is extremely rare in modern people outside Europe." [pp 126-127] To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.

[MNJohnnie]

Considering what passes for leadership in Europe these days, the Neanderthals were merely hiding

[Matchett-PI]

"There was a thread a week or so ago that claimed we all have some neanderthal genes."

Here's how.

[Squawk 8888]

“Closing Time” by Leonard Cohen

Ah we’re drinking and we’re dancing
and the band is really happening
and the Johnny Walker wisdom running high
And my very sweet companion
she’s the Angel of Compassion
she’s rubbing half the world against her thigh
And every drinker every dancer
lifts a happy face to thank her
the fiddler fiddles something so sublime
all the women tear their blouses off
and the men they dance on the polka-dots
and it’s partner found, it’s partner lost
and it’s hell to pay when the fiddler stops:
it’s CLOSING TIME
Yeah the women tear their blouses off
and the men they dance on the polka-dots
and it’s partner found, it’s partner lost
and it’s hell to pay when the fiddler stops:
it’s CLOSING TIME

Ah we’re lonely, we’re romantic
and the cider’s laced with acid
and the Holy Spirit’s crying, “Where’s the beef?”
And the moon is swimming naked
and the summer night is fragrant
with a mighty expectation of relief
So we struggle and we stagger
down the snakes and up the ladder
to the tower where the blessed hours chime
and I swear it happened just like this:
a sigh, a cry, a hungry kiss
the Gates of Love they budged an inch
I can’t say much has happened since
but CLOSING TIME

I swear it happened just like this:
a sigh, a cry, a hungry kiss
the Gates of Love they budged an inch
I can’t say much has happened since
CLOSING TIME

I loved you for your beauty
but that doesn’t make a fool of me:
you were in it for your beauty too
and I loved you for your body
there’s a voice that sounds like God to me
declaring, declaring, declaring that your body’s really you
And I loved you when our love was blessed
and I love you now there’s nothing left
but sorrow and a sense of overtime
and I missed you since the place got wrecked
And I just don’t care what happens next
looks like freedom but it feels like death
it’s something in between, I guess
it’s CLOSING TIME

Yeah I missed you since the place got wrecked
By the winds of change and the weeds of sex
looks like freedom but it feels like death
it’s something in between, I guess
it’s CLOSING TIME

Yeah we’re drinking and we’re dancing
but there’s nothing really happening
and the place is dead as Heaven on a Saturday night
And my very close companion
gets me fumbling gets me laughing
she’s a hundred but she’s wearing
something tight
and I lift my glass to the Awful Truth
which you can’t reveal to the Ears of Youth
except to say it isn’t worth a dime
And the whole damn place goes crazy twice
and it’s once for the devil and once for Christ
but the Boss don’t like these dizzy heights
we’re busted in the blinding lights,
busted in the blinding lights
of CLOSING TIME

The whole damn place goes crazy twice
and it’s once for the devil and once for Christ
but the Boss don’t like these dizzy heights
we’re busted in the blinding lights,
busted in the blinding lights
of CLOSING TIME

Oh the women tear their blouses off
and the men they dance on the polka-dots
It’s CLOSING TIME
And it’s partner found, it’s partner lost
and it’s hell to pay when the fiddler stops
It’s CLOSING TIME
I swear it happened just like this:
a sigh, a cry, a hungry kiss
It’s CLOSING TIME
The Gates of Love they budged an inch
I can’t say much has happened since
But CLOSING TIME
I loved you when our love was blessed
I love you now there’s nothing left
But CLOSING TIME
I miss you since the place got wrecked
By the winds of change and the weeds of sex.

[Squawk 8888]

Always will be more. The good Lord has this cool habit of leaving us obscure clues and watching us try to put the puzzle together.

[Average Al]

The good old days of youth....