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Vietnam Plans Live Fire Drills (Relations with China Steadily Worsening)
South China Morning Post ^ | June 10, 2011 | Greg Torode

Posted on 06/10/2011 2:19:07 PM PDT by PGR88

Vietnam's navy will stage unprecedented live-fire drills off its central coast on Monday in an apparent escalation of Sino-Vietnamese tensions over the South China Sea - a dispute that has so far involved only civilian ships.

The announcement of two exercises over nine hours off Quang Nam province came as China intensified its condemnation of Vietnam over recent incidents. A Foreign Ministry spokesman said Hanoi had "gravely violated" China's sovereignty and endangered the lives of its fishermen in the latest incident on Thursday.

The Chinese statement contradicted Vietnam's protest about an "intentional" attack by a Chinese fishing boat on cables towed by an oil survey ship in its southern waters.

Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said China was the victim, adding armed Vietnamese ships chased away a Chinese fishing boat, whose net became entangled in a Vietnamese survey ship's cables. It was dragged for more than an hour as the fishermen tried to free their boat.

"The Vietnamese ship put the lives and safety of the Chinese fishermen in serious danger," Hong said. "By conducting unlawful oil and gas surveys in the seas around the Wanan Bank of the Spratly archipelago and by driving out a Chinese fishing vessel, Vietnam has gravely violated China's sovereignty and maritime rights. China demands that Vietnam cease all violations."

Vietnam accused Chinese maritime surveillance ships of cutting the cables of another survey ship on May 26 - an incident that sparked a series of diplomatic exchanges, with Beijing telling Hanoi to "refrain from creating trouble". Vietnamese survey ships are intensifying operations as foreign oil firms expand exploration under deals struck with Hanoi - despite Beijing's warnings to halt such activities.

The mounting tension is being monitored in the region and beyond. Washington angered Beijing last year by declaring that the US had a "national interest" in helping to ensure a peaceful regional solution to territorial disputes in the South China Sea.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: china; military; vietnam
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1 posted on 06/10/2011 2:19:11 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: PGR88

Like a turf war between two rival gangs of thugs. Just communist thugs this time.


2 posted on 06/10/2011 2:22:21 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

Vietnam is taking a lot of business from China and they are becoming a friend of the US! This is pi$$ing China off to no end.


3 posted on 06/10/2011 2:29:14 PM PDT by WellyP
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To: Last Dakotan

“Like a turf war between two rival gangs of thugs. Just communist thugs this time.”

Agree, let’m have at it. But, the root of issue is is oil.


4 posted on 06/10/2011 2:29:22 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: Last Dakotan

“Like a turf war between two rival gangs of thugs. Just communist thugs this time.”

Agree, let’m have at it. But, the root of issue is is oil.


5 posted on 06/10/2011 2:29:33 PM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: PGR88

Let’s see...Chinese business owners are closing their plants and moving them to Vietnam because they have to pay workers $300 a month in China but only $100 a month in Vietnam.

Comrade, do you hear the cry of the raven in the plains?
Comrade, do you hear the cry of your country in chains?

Uncle Ho sold your sorry asses to the Chinese. Have some more Moo Goo Gai Pan.


6 posted on 06/10/2011 2:31:25 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: PGR88

Where are the Russians going to come down on this. I bet that they sit this one out.


7 posted on 06/10/2011 2:43:05 PM PDT by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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To: PGR88

Is the term “Chinese Fishing Boat” going to enter naval lexicon along side “Russian Trawler”? (wink, nudge)


8 posted on 06/10/2011 2:48:13 PM PDT by Tallguy (You can safely ignore anything that precedes the word "But"...)
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To: PGR88
SWEET!!!!

My Maternal Grandfather fought in the British Army in the Korean War and killed alot of Chinese, Once my Father got U.S. Citzenship in 1972 he went into the Marine Corp went to was at the Fall of Saigon.

Didn't the Chicoms and Charlie fight a war in like 1979 too?

Either way, I can't wait to watch


GIFSoup

9 posted on 06/10/2011 2:48:40 PM PDT by KC_Lion (If Sarah can't be elected in 2012, then Phase II will fall into place, may G-D have mercy on us all)
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To: PGR88

I don’t think Vietnam cares for China. Realtives have told me so. I forget how many years that has been true.


10 posted on 06/10/2011 2:52:24 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: USMCPOP
According to Ho - Relating history and challenging - is it better to fight the French/Americans for a few years or the Chinese for centuries?
Ho understood the Chinese well.
11 posted on 06/10/2011 2:57:21 PM PDT by tbird-james
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To: PGR88
Guess what Vietnam, you're on your own this time!

Jackasses! You deserve every bit of what's coming your way.

12 posted on 06/10/2011 3:10:47 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

The U.S. was dumb enough to believe China and North Vietnam were allies. In 79’ the Chinese attacked to ‘teach them a lesson.’ What they didn’t expect was a butt kicking from the Vietnamese who had been fighting for 20 years.


13 posted on 06/10/2011 3:20:22 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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“The U.S. was dumb enough to believe China and North Vietnam were allies”

Sorry, but who would be f’ing stupid enough to believe the Chinese would be their allies? Ask anyone in Asia. I belive that is so.


14 posted on 06/10/2011 3:42:02 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: PGR88
China has serious strategic objectives at stake in the S China Sea. The S China Sea is Japan's jugular vein, and everyone knows it. For VietNam there are conflicting claims of major offshore oil deposits. This is not just a backyard squabble between neighbors.

If we had a president, he would be supporting VN about now, but sadly, we have no American leadership.

15 posted on 06/10/2011 4:01:23 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: PGR88

Article doesn’t mention the name, but I suspect this is about who controls the Spratley Islands..


16 posted on 06/10/2011 4:04:14 PM PDT by ken5050 (Save the Earth..It's the only planet with chocolate!!!)
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To: blueunicorn6
Well, last time they met at the border, Vietnam kicked the Chinese asses. IDK just what you think uncle Ho sold them. Maybe if anything it was a bill of goods.
17 posted on 06/10/2011 4:04:14 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: WellyP

Well Hells Bells WellyP,
Guess we all should go out and try to purchase something from Viet Nam instead of the usual crap from the Chi-Coms.
Love to see a real knock down drag out between the two.


18 posted on 06/10/2011 4:04:53 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Next time the Chinese go south it will be with a monster army, a huge fleet and nukes. Not going to be a good day for Vietnam.


19 posted on 06/10/2011 5:58:28 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Times have changed. Back then, Vietnam had a lot of tough combat veterans and lots of military equipment. I haven’t checked, but I bet Vietnam hasn’t been spending much for new arms. The Chinese have. And their combat experience is a draw. Numbers and equipment versus ?


20 posted on 06/10/2011 7:28:04 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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