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Weight of War: Gear that protects troops also injures them
Seattle Times ^ | 2/12/2011 | Hal Bernton

Posted on 02/12/2011 6:50:36 PM PST by Saije

Before venturing out on patrol in Iraq, Spc. Joseph Chroniger would wrap his upper body in armor, then sling on a vest and and pack that contained batteries for his radio, water, food, flashlight, ammunition and other gear. With his M4 rifle, the whole get-up weighed 70 to 80 pounds — and left him aching.

His body hurt the most when his squad came under attack and he tried to run or dive on the ground. His neck and shoulders would burn as if on fire.

Since returning to Western Washington 2 1/2 years ago, Chroniger has been diagnosed with bone spurs in the vertebrae of his neck caused by a degenerative arthritic condition. Sometimes, the pain is intense, and he dreads getting out of bed in the morning.

"This is ridiculous," Chroniger said. "I'm only 25 years old. Arthritis is supposed to happen when you get old. What's it going to be like when I'm 50 or 60?"

Chroniger's injury is a symptom of the overloaded U.S. combat forces that have served in the long wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

In 2001, an Army Science Board study, noting that weight carried by soldiers could decrease mobility and increase fatigue and injury, recommended no soldier carry more than 50 pounds for any length of time. The Army chief of staff hoped to approach that goal by 2010.

But the loads combat soldiers typically carry remain far above that goal.

That weight has helped fuel an avalanche of musculoskeletal injuries that are eroding the combat-readiness of the military. Long after the fighting ends, injuries such as Chroniger's will remain a painful and expensive legacy of these wars.

• Nearly one-third of all medical evacuations from Iraq and Afghanistan from 2004 through 2007 resulted from musculoskeletal, connective-tissue or spinal injuries...

(Excerpt) Read more at seattletimes.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; injuries; iraq; military
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I really don't know how they do it, carrying all that stuff around, especially when it's 120 degrees out there.
1 posted on 02/12/2011 6:50:42 PM PST by Saije
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To: Saije

They are some tough bastards; God love ‘em.


2 posted on 02/12/2011 6:56:57 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: Saije

My kit weighed easily about 70 pounds and I didn’t have to carry the real heavy stuff since I was never more than 100m or so from a Stryker.

I have some knee problems, but they tend to dissipate if I take chondroitin steadily for a few days. I really feel bad for the Afghanistan light infantry guys carrying all their gear up and down mountains. That’s gotta hurt.


3 posted on 02/12/2011 7:02:51 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: Saije

Another reason to not allow women in combat.


4 posted on 02/12/2011 7:12:31 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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To: MuttTheHoople

War is Hell, the men that fight it NEVER get the rewards they deserve from those they fight for.


5 posted on 02/12/2011 7:16:11 PM PST by JAKraig (Surely my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: Saije

Well, he better not seek his Sapper, Ranger, and/or Special Forces tabs because he’ll be in a wheel chair when it’s through.


6 posted on 02/12/2011 7:16:18 PM PST by Engineer_Soldier ("Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto." Thomas Jefferson.)
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To: Saije

I suppose the question comes down to: which is the greater risk. Lugging all that stuff into combat and slowing yourself down, or going in lighter but more vulnerable.

I don’t know the answer. Might not hurt to get some sergeants together and see what they think.


7 posted on 02/12/2011 7:21:28 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Saije

“Chroniger’s injury is a symptom of the overloaded U.S. combat forces that have served in the long wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. “

Arthritis is an auto-immune disorder. I don’t see how a heavy pack caused it. Aggravated it yes, but caused it?


8 posted on 02/12/2011 7:57:36 PM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: Future Snake Eater
Soldiers have been carrying roughly the same weight into combat for about the last 1500 years or so. The more the gear gets lightened, the more crap gets stuffed into it.

That is an immutable Law of War.

9 posted on 02/12/2011 8:03:16 PM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: headstamp 2
Arthritis is an auto-immune disorder.

Rheumatoid Arthritis is, but Osteoarthritis is not.

10 posted on 02/12/2011 8:04:19 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: Saije

This is a hit piece from a very liberal source. The gear that soldiers and Marines carry is by far better than what what we had 10 years ago. Is it heavy? Hell yes it’s heavy. But the trade off is better survivability in combat. Up untill the last 4 years of my 22 year Marine Corps career the only thing our body armor would was good for was to stop grenade fragments. Now there are ceramic SAPI plate inserts for everything. The helmet is very much improved also. Ask any warrior in Iraq or Afghanistan about his gear and he will tell you it works. Screw this reporter, the only thing he has ever had to hump was a laptop and his Starbucks cup.


11 posted on 02/12/2011 8:13:12 PM PST by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: Cicero

A large portion of injuries to our troops are injured in IED explosions where armor does them little good. However, in battle, I would bet that the armor has saved more soldiers than it has hurt.


12 posted on 02/12/2011 8:23:48 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Islam is the religion of Satan and Mohammed was his minion.)
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To: Saije

I wonder how fedex and ups guys don’d die from lugging all their packages (up to 75 lbs, too) they have to each and every day.

But then, if we wrote a story on that, it wouldn’t get us any political points


13 posted on 02/12/2011 8:25:23 PM PST by BereanBrain
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“I wonder how fedex and ups guys don’d die from lugging all their packages (up to 75 lbs, too) they have to each and every day.”

The ones I see usually have a dolly or a cart. It’s not really the same thing, is it?


14 posted on 02/12/2011 8:29:51 PM PST by Saije
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To: Saije
This article was obviously written by and directed toward those who have never served or who lack any physical conditioning what so ever. Yes, it is damn difficult to load up your combat gear, armor, and a 50 with a couple hundred rounds and head out on a forced march regardless of the temperature or weather conditions. You find strength and will in places you never knew existed.

There are a lot of physically demanding occupations out there - free climbing 1000 foot cell towers, hanging iron 75 stories in the air, welding 200' below the surface on an oil rig, the list is endless. What does the author expect? Should the DOD research lighter gear made out of renewable resourced materials so the libs can say they have done their part to "support" our troops? What a bunch of hippy blow hard knuckleheads.

15 posted on 02/12/2011 8:54:35 PM PST by RobertClark (On a long enough timeline the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.)
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What I was thinking is this is not really that hard on a twenty something guy in peak condition to do for 3 or 6 years. But a laborer that does the same dam labor for 40 years is going to be chewed up like a piece of meat in a meat grinder. Or a professional athlete that retires at 40.

This particular guy with the bone spurs isn’t typical. However, my chiropractor told me its not uncommon for a 20 year old to have bone spurs in his neck if he’s a football player. Maybe this kid played football in highschool.


16 posted on 02/12/2011 9:46:47 PM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Saije

I’ve got problems with one knee, my lower back, left shoulder and my neck. I am on leave and will be retired 30 April. Carrying the weight in Iraq was truly a pain but someone had to do it. I’d do it again if I had to. Now I plan on carrying the weight of speaking out against the domestic enemies of our constitution.


17 posted on 02/12/2011 9:49:40 PM PST by rfreedom4u ("A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.")
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To: Saije
While 45lbs of armor may be appropriate in an urban setting, I have to think they should make it optional for long deployments in the field.

Yeah, no matter how tough a man will break under these loads over time.

18 posted on 02/12/2011 10:48:04 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: MuttTheHoople
"Another reason to not allow women in combat."

Women don't carry loads like that, ever.

19 posted on 02/12/2011 10:49:29 PM PST by Mariner (USS Tarawa, VQ3, USS Benjamin Stoddert, NAVCAMS WestPac, 7th Fleet, Navcommsta Puget Sound)
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To: Saije
I served in Army bands from 1964 to 1967. My major instrument was Tuba but I also played French Horn, Baritone, and trumpet. I often volunteered to play Taps at funerals for the Vets killed in Viet Nam.

I fully understand this weight injury problem because a full size Sousaphone (tuba worn on the shoulder) easily weighs as much as 55 pounds and the better the instrument, the heaver it is.

A highest quality Sousaphone with 4 valves can weigh up to 75 pounds. All of that weight is carried on one shoulder which twists the spine. While going through the U.S.Navy School of Music at Little Creek Va, I was carrying a Sousaphone on my shoulder up to 8 hours a day along with playing and taking lessons on a string bass.

I woke up one day partially paralyzed from the waist down with massive muscle spasms. I could barely walk even with extremely small steps. After two days, I was sent to the base hospital where I was given a massive injection of Cortisone directly into a vein.

At that time, Cortisone was a new discovery and touted to heal any and all injuries. The theory of injecting it directly into a vein was that it would spread throughout the body and go where ever it was needed. It was recognized as very dangerous if injected too quickly or too much at one time. It took over 15 minutes to SLOWLY push the large dose they gave me into my vein.

After it was over, they gave me pain pills and muscle relaxants and placed me on two weeks light duty where I wasn't allowed to even touch or pick up an instrument.

All together, I was treated four different times over a three year enlistment for my back problems which continue still today even though I've been out of the Army for over 44 years now.

I am permanently disabled due to my back problems along with a left knee injury and cardiac arythmias which popped up in the army. The cardiac arythmias are probably a result of the Cortisone injection damaging my heart.

I have had three major operations on my left knee resulting from the injury while I was in the Army. Normally if one is carrying heavy weights, they try to keep the weight evenly split across the entire body, front to back and left to right. A sousaphone is not evenly split weight wise in either direction. There is more weight up front due to the large bell and all of the weight is carried on the left shoulder.

All the muscles in the back and especially on the right have to overcome the uneven weight distribution which leads to severe damage over time.

I have several hundred bone spurs on my spine and six bad discs to go along with the spurs. It is normal as one ages to develop these problems but the abuse endured in the army greatly accelerated the problems.

I have never been either thin or weak and I have always been heavily muscled and more than strong enough to be able to handle a Sousaphone and yet I still suffered from it.

I am very glad for and proud of being in the Army and if I could do it all over I would do it again. I would just be wiser about the injuries which accrue without one being aware of the damage being done.

When we are young and healthy, we think we can do things and get away uninjured but that isn't true.

It became recognized that sousaphones presented a high risk of injury and in an effort to prevent the back injuries the manufacturers first went to thinner and lighter metal which didn't sound very good at all and then finally went to Fiberglass Sousaphones which were terrible.

No great sounding band would ever use the fiberglass Sousaphones and any tuba player who was any good would shun them like the plague because they sounded so bad. However, they became almost mandatory in grammar school and high school bands due to the back injuries suffered.

During my time in the 5th Army band at Ft Sheridan Illinois, the band used the fiberglass Sousaphones due to the large number of parades we marched in.

However by that time the damage to my back had already been done and the last year and a half of my enlistment was spent in the 74th Army Band at Ft Benjamin Harrison IN. (Uncle Bennies Rest Home) where we still used the metal Sousaphones for all our parades and outdoor ceremonies.

20 posted on 02/12/2011 11:02:21 PM PST by dglang
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