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Nasa raises hopes of finding extra-terrestrials, discovery of 'alien' bacteria, survives in arsenic
Daily Mail ^ | 12/1/10

Posted on 12/01/2010 9:34:48 AM PST by LibWhacker

Incredible microbe found in California lake

Nasa scientists are set to announce that bacteria have been discovered that can survive in arsenic, an element previously thought too toxic to support life, it can be revealed.

In a press conference scheduled for tomorrow evening, researchers will unveil the discovery of the incredible microbe - which substitutes arsenic for phosphorus to sustain its growth - in a lake in California.

The remarkable discovery raises the prospect that life could exist on other planets which do not have phosphorus in the atmosphere, which had previously been thought vital for life to begin.

But it will come as a major disappointment for those who had hoped Nasa was about to announce that it had found life on other planets.

Nasa sparked alien hysteria around the world with its announcement of a major press conference to be held tomorrow.

It induced feverish debate as to whether scientists were about to announce that they had discovered life on other worlds.

But after The Sun broke the embargo on the story this morning, it can be revealed that the truth is rather closer to home.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: arsenic; astrobiology; bacteria; exobiology; extraterrestrials; lake; panspermia; xplanets
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To: LibWhacker

But how will this help build up the muslims self-image????


21 posted on 12/01/2010 10:13:55 AM PST by texson66 (Congress does not draw to its halls those who love liberty. It draws those who love power .)
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To: Williams

“Fairly weak”

I would guess that anything that thrives in arsenic is fairly strong.

This is a good find, and expands the possibility of discovering life in places we never would have considered looking at.


22 posted on 12/01/2010 10:28:11 AM PST by mmercier (where there is the possibility of life, there will be life.)
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To: allmendream

Archebacteria is a good example of an unrelated class of life.

It has a sulfur electron transport system, instead of oxygen, and is therefore unrelated to all life with an oxygen based electron transport system.

This bacteria lives at deep ocean volcanic vents. I studied it for a bit.


23 posted on 12/01/2010 10:36:17 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Triple
Just because it uses sulfur instead of oxygen is not evidence that it is unrelated to all life with an oxygen based electron transport system.

Are anoxyic bacteria that don't use oxygen at all (and find it quite toxic) unrelated at all to aerobic bacteria? Not according to anybody I have ever read on the subject.

Citation please, and can you address the universal DNA code and variants of the same ubiquitous “housekeeping” genes that are present with variation in ALL living species found upon the Earth?

24 posted on 12/01/2010 10:39:43 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: LibWhacker

YAWN

51,318th alien life found announcement, god is dead, go ahead and vote for democrats, and on and on ....
25 posted on 12/01/2010 10:54:33 AM PST by Scythian
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To: allmendream

“Archaea are members of the domain Prokarya and are in a kingdom of their own: Archaea” - first summary point of Link:

http://plantphys.info/organismal/lechtml/archaea.shtml

Where I tend to differ in my thinking from what is illustrated at the link - is that there was one “original cell.”

In any case it cleary shows that archaebacteria are very different - and deserve their own Kingdom of life.


26 posted on 12/01/2010 11:02:12 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: April Lexington

NASA now has an entire bureaucracy dedicated to the field of astrobiology, but it’s main mission is to make the Islamic world feel good about itself. See http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/.

Your tax dollars at work.


27 posted on 12/01/2010 11:04:14 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: Skepolitic

Wrong link on earlier post. It should be to NASA Astrobiology Institute (NAI).

http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/nai/about/


28 posted on 12/01/2010 11:06:11 AM PST by Skepolitic
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To: Triple

Very different is not uniquely different and unrelated.

A different Kingdom, but like Plants and Animals, they share the same “Universal Code” that translates DNA genes into functional molecular machine proteins, and have the same ubiquitous “housekeeping” genes.

Now the genes that they share in common have more (mostly) superficial differences that accumulate, but they share genes in common with all other living things on Earth. The most parsimonious explanation for this is they once shared common ancestry.

The “original cell” idea is pretty much discarded. LUCA - the last universal common ancestor is no longer thought of as a particular species or type of cell, but a community of slightly different cellular organisms that swapped genes with each other.


29 posted on 12/01/2010 11:25:23 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

So, allow me to expand on ‘very different.’

Archaea are at least as biologically different from bacteria as you are from a coconut tree.

Have a nice day.


30 posted on 12/01/2010 11:31:32 AM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: LRS

Just what we need — alien invaders who can’t be poisoned.


31 posted on 12/01/2010 11:50:20 AM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Triple
Yes, but all animals and all plants are NOT thought to be unrelated to eachother, so we are related to both the Archaea and the coconut tree.

You as well.

32 posted on 12/01/2010 11:56:41 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: mmercier

Maybe I’m narrow minded, but if you can’t talk to it, pet it, or at least watch it running around, I’m not sure finding microbial life elsewhere is going to ring my bell.

OK, it will be a huge deal but some bacteria swimming in arsenic well, it only goes so far.


33 posted on 12/01/2010 12:06:45 PM PST by Williams (It's the policies, stupid.)
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To: Williams
A thing swimming in arsenic only goes so far, unless they bear a DNA strand that can cure cancer or diabetes or Alzheimer's or liberalism.
34 posted on 12/01/2010 12:15:17 PM PST by mmercier (never give up the dead)
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To: zot

Here’s NASA’s “big story” about extraterrestrial life.


35 posted on 12/01/2010 12:20:16 PM PST by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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To: Williams
Maybe I’m narrow minded, but if you can’t talk to it, pet it, or at least watch it running around, I’m not sure finding microbial life elsewhere is going to ring my bell.

If they do indeed find it somewhere other than on earth, that would be interesting, but I see no reason to be optimistic about any life elsewhere in our solar system.
36 posted on 12/01/2010 12:22:05 PM PST by ZX12R (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!)
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To: LibWhacker

NASA breathlessly announces they’ve found life on Earth!


37 posted on 12/01/2010 1:11:07 PM PST by eclecticEel (Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness: 7/4/1776 - 3/21/2010)
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To: LibWhacker

I knew it was a trump. Look that word up. All the PR bluster of a big announcement. Stirring up the old black magic UFO fever!

An interesting announcement stunk up by the faux fanfare.


38 posted on 12/01/2010 1:15:07 PM PST by bvw
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To: Interesting Times
Here’s NASA’s “big story” about extraterrestrial life.

Yeah, it's just another NASA hype, as you said it would be.

39 posted on 12/01/2010 1:54:03 PM PST by zot
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Thanks LibWhacker. Astrobiology, panspermia, arsenic, exobiology...
 
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40 posted on 12/06/2010 5:28:58 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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