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The proton - smaller than thought
Max Planck Society ^ | July 12, 2010 | Unknown

Posted on 07/12/2010 1:55:19 PM PDT by decimon

An international team measures the charge radius of the hydrogen nucleus and stumbles across some mysteries of physics

Big problems sometimes come in small packages. The problem with which physicists must now concern themselves measures a mere 0.0350 millionth of a millionth of a millimetre. This is precisely the difference between the new, smaller, dimension of the proton, the nucleus of the hydrogen atom, and the value which has been assumed so far. Instead of 0.8768 femtometres it measures only 0.8418 femtometres. At the Paul Scherrer Institute in Switzerland, an international team of researchers including physicists from the Max Planck Institute of Quantum Optics has now measured this in experiments which are ten times more accurate than all previous ones. They thus present physics with some tough problems: at least one fundamental constant now changes. And physicists have also to check the calculations of quantum electrodynamics. This theory is assumed to be very well proven, but its predictions do not agree with these latest measurements. (Nature, July 8, 2010)

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TOPICS: Science
KEYWORDS: physics; proton; protonradius; protons; science; stringtheory
Smaller than my thoughts? Doubtful.
1 posted on 07/12/2010 1:55:22 PM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Petering particle ping.


2 posted on 07/12/2010 1:56:08 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
Let me be the first: Bush's fault!
3 posted on 07/12/2010 1:57:55 PM PDT by FroggyTheGremlim (He promised hope; he gave us hype. He promised change; he gave us chains!)
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To: decimon

“The problem with which physicists must now concern themselves measures a mere 0.0350 millionth of a millionth of a millimetre.”

By atomic standards that’s hugh!


4 posted on 07/12/2010 2:04:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: decimon
Ai-EEEEEEEEEE!! My entire theory has just been rendered a nullity.
5 posted on 07/12/2010 2:06:32 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: decimon

I was up all night worrying about all those protons shrinking away to nothing.


6 posted on 07/12/2010 2:10:44 PM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (liberalism: severe deterioration of the thinking apparattus)
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To: eCSMaster

Nonsense! It is Obama’s ill-conceived Porkulus which is leading protons everywhere (and not just the bare proton of the hydrogen atom) to postpone investment in radii until the effects of excessive spending and the increase in arbritary government regulations can be understood.


7 posted on 07/12/2010 2:33:46 PM PDT by bagman
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To: Jack Hydrazine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhbqIJZ8wCM


8 posted on 07/12/2010 2:36:51 PM PDT by wally_bert (It's sheer elegance in its simplicity! - The Middleman)
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To: decimon

Was it in the water?


9 posted on 07/12/2010 2:39:33 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: decimon

Whoa! The discrepancy was over 5 times the calculated margin of error for the previous measurement. Thats pretty friggin big man. One wonders what repercussions this will have as the results filter down and are confirmed.


10 posted on 07/12/2010 2:41:22 PM PDT by Paradox (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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To: decimon

Sounds like another serious problem in their never ending conjecture upon conjecture that requires adjustments of previous guesswork in an attempt to make the math work. Oh, and by the way, we were only kidding about the dark matter thingy. ‘Wonder if the two are related?


11 posted on 07/12/2010 2:42:10 PM PDT by rsobin
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To: decimon
An international team measures the charge radius of the hydrogen nucleus and stumbles across some mysteries of physics

And some other mysteries of physics solved by the fractional ground states of hydrogen.
12 posted on 07/12/2010 2:44:17 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: decimon
You can probably win a lot of bar bets with this info— until it becomes common knowledge...
13 posted on 07/12/2010 2:45:56 PM PDT by johnandrhonda (have you hugged your banjo today?)
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To: decimon
At that scale, Nature can be pretty quarky...
14 posted on 07/12/2010 3:56:38 PM PDT by mikrofon (Pretty flavorful)
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To: decimon
Thanks decimon.

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15 posted on 07/12/2010 4:58:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: decimon

So does that mean I now have more room to store stuff? My attic & garage are getting pretty full.


16 posted on 07/12/2010 5:02:40 PM PDT by P.O.E. ("Now who's being naive, Kaye?" - M. Corleone)
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To: P.O.E.
So does that mean I now have more room to store stuff? My attic & garage are getting pretty full.

Get rid of any power outlets. Those durned electrons are orbiting everywhere.

17 posted on 07/12/2010 5:34:35 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
The proton - smaller than thought

Seriously, my proton was just in some cold water. Its normally much bigger...

18 posted on 07/12/2010 7:17:16 PM PDT by Onelifetogive (I never make the mistake of arguing with people for whose opinions I have no respect.)
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