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Ancient DNA suggests new hominid line
ScienceNews ^ | Apr 24, 2010 | Bruce Bower

Posted on 04/25/2010 8:28:57 AM PDT by decimon

A new member of the human evolutionary family has been proposed for the first time based on an ancient genetic sequence, not fossil bones. Even more surprising, this novel and still mysterious hominid, if confirmed, would have lived near Stone Age Neandertals and Homo sapiens.

“It was a shock to find DNA from a new type of ancestor that has not been on our radar screens,” says geneticist Svante Pääbo of the Max Planck Institute for Evolutionary Anthropology in Leipzig, Germany. These enigmatic hominids left Africa in a previously unsuspected migration around 1 million years ago, a team led by Pääbo and Max Planck graduate student Johannes Krause reports in a paper published online March 24 in Nature.

The researchers base their claim on DNA from a finger bone belonging to a hominid that lived in the Altai Mountains of central Asia between about 48,000 and 30,000 years ago.

Anthropologists have generally assumed that hominids left Africa in a few discrete waves, starting with Homo erectus about 1.9 million years ago. Neandertal ancestors left between 500,000 and 300,000 years ago, followed by humans around 50,000 years ago.

But the new genetic sequence supports a scenario in which many African hominid lineages trekked to Asia and Europe in the wake of H. erectus, Pääbo suggests.

(Excerpt) Read more at sciencenews.org ...


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: dna; godsgravesglyphs; newhominid
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Via blam.
1 posted on 04/25/2010 8:28:57 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv; blam

Welcome wagon ping.


2 posted on 04/25/2010 8:30:01 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

And he should pick up his Grant Money where???


3 posted on 04/25/2010 8:32:42 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (What)
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To: decimon

Almasty (or yeti) ping?


4 posted on 04/25/2010 8:34:45 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: decimon
Must have been global warming to cause them to leave, but this sounds like a money making scam, kinda like global warming.
5 posted on 04/25/2010 8:34:58 AM PDT by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: decimon

Makes lots of sense as Blam has postulated. Now we need to
find ruins under the gulf of Thailand. Most interesting news in a long
time.


6 posted on 04/25/2010 8:35:10 AM PDT by JimSEA ("A deeply, deeply troubled individual" per WJC)
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To: Sacajaweau

The new evolution family shall be called “El Liberals Erectus” and now we know where they came from.


7 posted on 04/25/2010 8:46:48 AM PDT by donhunt (I used to have a US senator who lived in a compound.)
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8 posted on 04/25/2010 8:48:29 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: decimon
I see this stuff as very similar to Global Warming computer models. We don't really understand the data. We like to pretend that we can predict the weather 100 years from now, and we like to predict that we have a deep understanding of genetics. I'm just not convinced. They are just taking a big pile of genetic data and -- Voila~! -- postulating a new kind of hominid.

Nice hypothesis, I suppose. But how will the idea ever be tested? How can this be substantiated in any way?

I see this as little better than stoned college freshmen sitting around saying, "Wow, wouldn't it be cool if ...". But real science should operate at a slightly higher level than that.

9 posted on 04/25/2010 8:56:21 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: decimon

10 posted on 04/25/2010 9:02:13 AM PDT by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective...)
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To: decimon
These enigmatic hominids left Africa in a previously unsuspected migration around 1 million years ago

Evidence supporting the Theory of Evolution is everywhere around us.

11 posted on 04/25/2010 9:03:08 AM PDT by OldNavyVet (One trillion days, at 365 days per year, is 2,739,726,027 years ... almost 3 billion years.)
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To: JimSEA

Very neat information thanks for the post


12 posted on 04/25/2010 9:04:25 AM PDT by trashcanbred2
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To: ClearCase_guy

No... actually mDNA has nothing to do with computer models nor with phony baloney predictions. It is at least an attempt to get at the truth which is more than I can say for other forms of beliefs.


13 posted on 04/25/2010 9:08:14 AM PDT by trashcanbred2
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To: decimon

Why is it a shock? These people claim to be scientists. Basic reason suggests that given the limited preservation of homanid remains it would be ridiculous to assume that the accumulated discoveries of the past 100 years would be all there is.


14 posted on 04/25/2010 9:13:45 AM PDT by Maelstorm (Some want to enslave your body others your soul.)
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To: OldNavyVet
Know what you mean. Several thousand people in New York were recently discovered to both be descendants and have descendants that are related to them at the same time!!

How amazing is that? And every one studied so far had DNA.

15 posted on 04/25/2010 9:16:02 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: BroJoeK

I've worked with all of these guys.

16 posted on 04/25/2010 9:19:11 AM PDT by decimon
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To: OldNavyVet
"Evidence supporting the Theory of Evolution is everywhere around us."

BTTT

17 posted on 04/25/2010 9:34:07 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Jim Wallis speaks for Christians the same way that Jesse Jackson speaks for all blacks.)
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To: decimon
Thanks. Same subject posted in Nature:

Fossil Finger Points To New Human Species

19 posted on 04/25/2010 10:21:11 AM PDT by blam
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To: ClearCase_guy

Assuming that any theory about the things we see from earth’s past can be substantiated today by the scientific method is folly. We can’t observe any of the actual phenomenon that caused these changes.

However, theories are postulated and then accepted as scientific fact. Those who argue those facts are labeled “flat earthers.” What is interesting is that over time, they often change the “facts” to fit new “discoveries.”

It does sound like global warming :)


20 posted on 04/25/2010 10:33:06 AM PDT by wastedpotential (McCain always said I was an agent of intolerance - but in 2008 those like me tolerated him most)
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