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Big Breaking News: Michelle Obama Confirms Obama was Born in Kenya
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Posted on 04/03/2010 10:59:46 AM PDT by U.S. Army Retired

Here is a newly released video of Michelle Obama stating that she and Obama visited his home country in Kenya - she was speaking to a group during the Democratic Convention in Denver in 2008 when she made the revelation.Video link: She tells about their visit to her husband's home country at 42 seconds into the video. What more proof do we need now. This is ample evidence Obama is not a Natural Born Citizen. Michelle Obama says at 42 seconds into the video this:

"Barack has led by example, when we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in, Kenya."

Okay I got a transcript and a 15min video.

http://www.traditionalvalues.org/2008-pvr/video/vid60.php

He also supported, in his career, full funding for the Ryan White Care Act and has pledged…(Applause) a national HIV/AIDS strategy to combat this continuing epidemic right here in the United States. (Applause)

He has also spoken out against the stigma surrounding HIV testing, which is still plaguing so many of our communities, which you all know---a lot of that is due to homophobia. Barack has led by example. When we took our trip to Africa and visited his home country in Kenya, we took a public HIV test----for the very point of showing folks in Kenya that there is nothing to be embarrassed about in getting tested. We did it….. (Applause)

Barack has also worked to expand healthcare, pass welfare reform. He’s worked to ensure that the brave men and women who serve this country…that they don’t have to fight a new battle when they come back from service. That battle to get healthcare, to get to the front of the line and to get the services they need to live a full and healthy life. And, that includes mental healthcare. Barack has been fighting for…(Applause)…


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To: Drew68; Fred Nerks; null and void; stockpirate; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; rxsid; MeekOneGOP; ..

Nothing more than a figure of speech regarding his heritage.

Whoa, hold the phone ... I thought Obama's "heritage" was the United States, Hawaii specifically. I thought Obama's "home country" was AMERICA.

BUT let's go with your theory for a minute ... that the slip up was a "figure of speech regarding his heritage."


Obama seems very Conflicted, Confused & Divided — and his wife concurs.

EVERYONE'S bloodline and "heritage" comes from somewhere: England, Spain, France, India, etc. But Obama is ZERO generations removed.

Obama was a Kenya Citizen from Dec. 12, 1963 to Aug. 4, 1982 — nearly 19 years. The only reason he wasn't BORN a Kenyan citizen is that Kenya did not gain its independence from the UK until December 1963. You can take the boy out of Kenya — but IT'S OBVIOUS — that you cannot take the Kenya out of the boy.

Further, Obama was born a British Subject, which is BIG problem too, as the Framers feared a future foreign President who could have divided loyalties to another nation — in Obama's confused mind, perhaps even the nation of Islam.

Obama obviously feels a strong ancestral tie to another "heritage" ... another country other than Americathe nation of Kenya. This BOND is MUCH stronger than Americans who feel a mild ancestral connection to a "home country" by way of the Mayflower, Ellis Island or the Rio Grande River.

Since Obama feels a STRONG connection to a "heritage" — in his "home country in Kenya" — it obviously must, at least on SOME level, affect his JUDGMENT in his dealings with our country.

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221 posted on 04/04/2010 12:16:22 PM PDT by BP2 (I think, therefore I'm a conservative)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

As much as I hate to side with you know who I’m going to have to on this. Call me racist and un-PC or whatever but to many blacks, Africa IS their homeland. They call it, “Mother Africa” and get all glassy eyed and have warm fuzzies just thinking of it. Granted, you don’t refer to yourself as European American but they call themselves African Americans despite 90% of them or their ancestors for the past 150 years
ever setting foot on the continent. Of course O. Sr. was Kenyan making Jr. Kenyan and in no way shape or form eligible but whether or not the usurper was born in the Lincoln Bedroom or in a hut in Africa this homeland stuff is much ado about nothing.


222 posted on 04/04/2010 1:11:24 PM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: U.S. Army Retired

Though it is emotionally satisfying to denounce the Commander and Thief, it is nugatory. Over 300 million “human resources”, duly enrolled and enumerated, are more a threat to the republic than any one man, even the president.

Without the consent of those “contributors”, the socialist / usurer alliance would have little power nor wealth to manipulate the masses.

As the Declaration of Independence reminds us, government has two jobs:
1. secure rights, and
2. govern those who consent.
Once consent is given, job #1 is waived.
Until consent is withdrawn, no objection will stand.
He who consents cannot complain.


223 posted on 04/04/2010 2:02:24 PM PDT by jetgraphics
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To: LucyT

Or, they understand the Constitution and may be a fool, but support 0bama and want to undermine any serious discussion.

Ridicule - Alinksly tactic.


224 posted on 04/04/2010 3:36:08 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: jetgraphics

A sleeping giant is awakening. It ain’t over.


225 posted on 04/04/2010 3:36:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: U.S. Army Retired; BP2; pissant; Beckwith; Candor7; george76; Red Steel; David; GreatOne; ...
Michelle is not the only person who would be expected to have intimate knowledge of Barack’s birth, to say or strongly imply that he was born in Kenya. Others are the Kenyan ambassador to the US (in a radio interview with a Detroit station the day after O’s election), Obama’s paternal grandmother (who was recorded - in translation - saying she witnessed his birth), and three different Kenyan parliamentarians (according to a transcript of the Kenyan parliamentary proceedings the day after the ‘08 election in the US). In addition, at a meeting with Hispanics at that same Dem convention in ‘08, Gov. Bill Richardson specifically stated in Spanish that Obama was an immigrant.
226 posted on 04/04/2010 3:37:49 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: thecodont

“Do you suppose he would add as a parting shot, “And John McCain was too,...”

One can only hope so, as that is exactly why the Republicans never contested Obama’s eligibility.


227 posted on 04/04/2010 4:15:55 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Grunthor

I refer Scandinavia as my “former” home countries!!!


228 posted on 04/04/2010 5:01:44 PM PDT by danamco
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To: justiceseeker93

Obama is a Marxist/Muslim usurper pos but there’s not a thing we can do about it.
The ‘Rats are having wet dreams because they got a ‘bro in the White House, and the Republicans know he’s not elgible but don’t have the spine to do anything about it.
They’d rather have an alien userper destroy America than risk being called RAY-CESS.


229 posted on 04/04/2010 5:08:17 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: U.S. Army Retired

Are you kidding??? She said this in 2008 and this is breaking news???

She hated America then, remember? (Like she cares for it now, right?) She probably only married Barack because A) he was from the Holy Motherland, even if only through his Dad’s one night stand and B) he was Going Somewhere. [It was not for his exuding masculinity.]

She is not saying he was BORN there. But his father is from there. This is no proof of anything.


230 posted on 04/04/2010 5:11:13 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

I think one of the reasons the right leaning talking heads suddenly threw the “birthers” under the bus was because they considered what would happen if it turned out to be true.

Biden would become President with Pelosi next in line.

There would be blood in the streets, and as a result we would be creamed in the next election.

Having said that, I still think something’s mighty fishy. I thought nothing of this issue until I saw the strength of the cover-up.


231 posted on 04/04/2010 6:29:34 PM PDT by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: jetgraphics

Welcome to FR.

jetgraphics
Since Apr 4, 2010
http://www.freerepublic.com/~jetgraphics/

Interesting topic you chose.


232 posted on 04/04/2010 7:45:47 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: U.S. Army Retired
Here is Gov (commerce secretary elect)Bill Richardson saying in Spanish that Obama is an "immigrant." (So he understands understands "immigrant" issues.)The context suggests that by "immigrant" bill richardson means "illegal immigrant"



Here in plain English is the Kenyan Ambassador saying that Obama is born in Kenya.



Obama's own flacks deny that obama was born in Kenya but do acknowledge that he had a dual citizenship up until 1982

from obama's own site factcheck.org(this is cached as the original was taken down) by way of fightthesmears on his dual citizenship at birth

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically expired on Aug. 4,1982.”(Someone will want to cache the above web page because it will be taken down eventually. Ah here is the cached version.) Here is a better cached versionHere's a third Kindly cache these too.

Here is the problem with fighthesmears narrative: We already have recorded that Obama's wife michellle said Obama's mother was "very young and very single" when obama was born. British law at the time of obama's birth only gave citizenship from the father to the son in the case that the father is married to the mother:ie the son is legitimate. See wikipedia 2.4.3Since obama's parents were NOT married -- how did obama get his British/Kenyancitizenship? Its not unreasonable to think that he got his British/Kenyan because he was born there--and not because of his parentage. As to the famous newsclipping in Hawaii that states that bama was born there in 1961--there is evidence to suggest that the house named as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by someone else besides his parents. Once again, Just one piece of evidence could easily be dismissed. It is the accumulation of evidence that is troubling.
It is well established that Obama did travel to Indonesia and Pakistan in 1981. In a tape of his speech at this April 6, 2008 San Francisco Fundraiser, Obama discloses his trip to Pakistan (40:17) when he was in college. On what passport did he travel?

A last arguement for baraks people might be that of course the Kenyans would have an interest in claiming that obama was a "son of the soil" both as a matter of pride and as a matter of bucks coming their way. However, if Obama was not born in Kenya -- then why wouldn't Obama release his original long form birth certificate. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. On top of that according to the LA Times since the election -- the Kenyans feel that Obama has gone out of his way to snub/ignore/distance-himself them. The Kenyans are putting up reasons like perhaps they are insufficiently perfected for him to notice them--but here in the USA we have seen Obama throw a number of embarrasing people from his past under the bus. Obama is going to Africa. Will he visit Kenya? Nope. Exactly What IS a Natural Born Citizen?

The thing has become a joke in washington. Joe Biden Joked at the Gridiron Dinner in March 09.

After mentioning one of the Republican speakers for the evening, Arnold Schwarzenegger, was born in Austria and that one of the Democratic speakers, Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm, was born in Canada, Biden chortled: "Folks, this is going to be Lou Dobbs' worst nightmare. "

From there, Biden transitioned to the birth certificate controversy.

Les Kinsolving asked the Presidential Press Secretary Gibbs to release the long form birth certificate. The press secretary suggested mockingly that the copy of the short form birth certificate supplied online is Obama's long form birth certificate. Not so.(However, as of july 2009--eight months after the election-- Hawaii changed their rules so as to make the short form legal.There is even evidence to suggest the online "certification of live birth"--ie not a birth certificate--obama presented... was a forgery. See the press conference out take here.

Its not a difficult issue to understand. Helen Thomas in a subsequent white house question and answer seemed to suggest that she understood that there was a constitutional question involved.

The White House 'dialogue' site has to be scrubbed regularly because of long form birth certificate eligibility posts.

Rush Limbaugh joked several times on his radio show on 6/10/09: "What do God and Obama have in commen? (Answer) Neither have birth certificates."

Even the liberal LA Times on June 30, 2009 in an article dripping with contempt--conceded that the thing Obama's people posted online was "technically... not a birth certificate".

A bill in the US congress with 10 backers currently -- calls for future presidential candidates to be required to show a birth certificate.

The library of congress has recently started including the Obama File in its historic collections of Internet materials related to the Presidential Transition during a Time of Crises. The Obama File holds that Obama's birth certificate as presented online is bogus.

Now this story is starting to change. Some liberals in an open acknowledgement of Obama's problems are starting to call for a change in the constitution.Liberal defenders of Obama in full retreat on Birth CertificateNow The LA Times Wants To Amend the Constitution Rather Than Have Obama Show His Birth Certificate. (Translation: Yeah he’s not a Natural Born Citizen — As the Constitution Requires.) Finally here is Gibbs inadvertantly confessing that Obama is not born in the USA.

Gibbs 8.12.09 Daily Press Briefing (Youtube)

“... I can't tell you why somebody believes, despite all preponderance of the evidence, that the president was born umm ... in uh ... uh ... is born here and not somewhere else ...
233 posted on 04/04/2010 8:58:00 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: U.S. Army Retired
A detroit radio station called the Kenyan embassy after the election of Obama. After a a few minutes they get through to the ambassador of Kenya.

The ambassador of Kenya says that obama was born in Kenya and that his birth place has become a national shrine.

Listen to the recording here. (Please save & cache the recording)

The quote is around 12:35, so if you don’t have time to listen to the whole thing, you can jump ahead.
Don't click through the link to utube on WND but rather listen to the recording on site. The transcript reads:

Radio Jockey: President elect Obama's birth place over in Kenya -- is that going to be a national spot where he was born

Ambassador Peter Ogego: its already an attraction. his paternal grandmother is still alive

Radio Jockey:But his birth place...they'll put up a marker there

Ambassdor Peter Ogego: It would depend on the government. Its already well known.

Here is an abridged Utube version of the the radio interview. So you can hear just the relevant parts. (be sure to save & cache this if you know how--because obama's people are actively hunting this stuff down)

It can be reasonably pointed out that the DJ was trying to entrap the Ambassador and that the Ambassador fell into his trap.
However, if you listen to the long version of the radio interview --you’ll notice he used the same strategy on two different occasions and the ambassador gently brushed him off.

First, he tried to force the ambassador to sing the Kenyan national anthem. The ambassador referred him to the kenyan website.

Second he tried to push the ambassador into saying something about maybe Kenya becoming the 51st state. Again the ambassador said that Kenya was a sovereign country. ie No.

He used the same technique on the question of Obama’s birth place. This time the ambassador did not brush him off. Rather in answer to the question as to whether Obama was born in Kenya --he says "It is well known."

Because the ambassador answered no in the two previous examples -- you can't say that the ambassdor was either a fool or ill advised.

Finally, you might ask well doesn't he know that saying Obama is born in Kenya would make trouble for Obama? The answer there is why should he be concerned? He has heard no suggestion in the mainstream media that there might be a problem there. So to say what is already well known--as he says--would be no problem.

Here is a utube video of Ambassador Peter Ogego speaking at a conference. Ambassador of Kenya H.E. Peter Ogego To verify that the voice on the radio is Ambassador Ogego-- compare the radio voice with the DJ to the voice on the Utube that goes with Ambassador Ogego. Ambassador Peter Ogego is introduced a bit after minute 18..

They are the same.


Subsequently, the Kenyan ambassador said that he meant Obama's father was born in Kenya. However, when pressed about Obama's birth place:

"I don't know," he said with a tone of irritation. "You should ask your government. I know his father is Kenyan."

However, that's not what the original transcript suggests. clear="all" /> Finally, there is a Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae which is part of the Berg case. The Bishop says pretty much the same thing as the Ambassador.

"Additionally, it is common knowledge throughout both the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya, that contrary to news media propaganda here in the United States, US Senator Barack Obama is a Muslim and not a Christian, and that he was born in Mombasa, Kenya and not in the State of Hawaii as falsely purported by the Obama campaign for presidency of the United States."

While you cannot impeach the ambassador's character, you can impeach McCrae's character. After all, he's just an itinerant preacher. But McCrae has been to Kenya. Still that makes two people who say that it is common knowledge in Kenya that Obama was born in Kenya.
Then of course there is a video of Obama's grandmother saying that Obama is born in Kenya
There is a case to be made that Obama mother didn't mean Obama was born in Kenya but rather that he is a "son of this village". However, witnesses insist that she said she was present at obama's birth in Kenya. If taken alone, perhaps she could well be ignored. However, her take is in keeping with others both high and low.

Again here is a pdf transcript of Kenyan National Assembly on Nov 5, 2008, the day after Obama was elected. Over and over again there are references to Obama being a "son of the soil" of Kenya and a Kenyan. On page page 3275 there is this passage:

HOUSE SHOULD ADJOURN TO DISCUSS ELECTION OF MR. BARRACK OBAMA

Ms. Odhiambo: On a point of order, Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir. It is not on this issue. I stand on a point of order under Standing Order No.20 to seek leave for adjournment of the House to discuss the American presidential election results.

(Applause)

Mr. Deputy Speaker, Sir, the President-elect, Mr. Obama, is a son of the soil of this country. Every other country in this continent is celebrating the Obama win. It is only proper and fitting that the country which he originates from should show the same excitement, pomp and colour.



Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

In July 2009 a Ghanian newspapersays of Obama that ""For Ghana, Obama's visit will be a celebration of another milestone in African history as it hosts the first-ever African-American president on this presidential visit to the continent of his birth," Here is a story from an American who says he met Obama in 1980 in Hawaii. He says Obama said he was born in Mombassa. The American Thinker explains here why Obama's short form released by fightthesmears is not sufficient for Hawaii. There is evidence to suggest that the home named in the newspaper archived article as the place where Obama was born -- was lived in by a couple not Obama's parents. Even the Honalulu Advertiser has a different address of record for Obama's father than the one listed newspaper birth listing. The hospital where Obama claims he was born--refuses to either confirm or deny that he was in fact born there--and that despite the fact that Obama has said he was born there in writing--and presented the hospital a memo to that effect...right after he was elected. What's more newspaper accounts of his birth place him in other hospitals around Hawaii. None of these will comment either.

Again. It is not the one thing. Rather it is the tide.

The Obama administration could put this to rest by releasing his long form birth certificate. But he doesn't. Instead of just releasing his long form birth certificate he has paid his lawyers over 1 million dollars from campaign contributions since Sept 08 to squash the suits brought on the issue. Why bother?

This post does a very very good job of showing how the information from kenya, hawaii, citizenship rules and presidential "natural born" rules fit together.

The Arnold would have run for president long ago and likely won if he were a "natural born" american. He's not. He's naturalized. So he can't run. And he knows it. (though there were some trial balloons sent up a couple years back about changing the law--that went nowhere.)

Like the Arnold, Obama looks to be a naturalized citizen--but maybe he's not even that. Here's a footnoted timeline of obama's life 1961-2008. Its especially helpful to look at 1961 and 2008. Of interest is this: Interesting timeline with footnotes of obama's life.

of note

On April 10, 2008 Senator Claire McCaskill (D-MO) introduces Senate Resolution S. Res. 511 to “recognize that John Sidney McCain is a natural born citizen.” The resolution is allegedly meant to clarify that McCain is eligible to be President even though he was born in Panama. Because McCain’s parents were both Americans and he was born in Panama because his father was stationed there while in the military, existing law already covers McCain and he is eligible to be President. McCaskill’s resolution thus serves no purpose – except that language is included to try and provide a “blanket cover” for other foreign born candidates without military backgrounds, in order to enable Obama to be eligible to be President. This is the language that Obama inserted “Whereas previous presidential candidates were born outside of the United States of America and were understood to be eligible to be President;” This Clause has no particular relevance to McCain [The language is inserted by Obama.][301,303]

301# http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/2008/10/11/obama-born-in-kenya-new-information/#more-3844

303 # http://watchdog.net/b/us/110/sr511

Obama's Senate efforts to airbrush his past were augmented by his top Intelligence Advisor in March 2008. Obama's Intelligence Adviser Involved in Security Breach. Obama’s top terrorism and intelligence adviser, John O. Brennan, heads a firm that was cited in March [2008] for breaching sensitive files in the State Department’s passport office, according to a State Department Inspector General’s report released this past July. The security breach, first reported by the Washington Times and later confirmed by State Department spokesman Sean McCormack, involved a contract employee of Brennan’s firm, The Analysis Corp., which has earned millions of dollars providing intelligence-related consulting services to federal agencies and private companies. During a State Department briefing on March 21, 2008, McCormack confirmed that the contractor had accessed the passport files of presidential candidates Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton, and John McCain, and that the inspector general had launched an investigation. Sources who tracked the investigation tell Newsmax that the main target of the breach was the Obama passport file, and that the contractor accessed the file in order to “cauterize” the records of potentially embarrassing information. In this video of Obama's reaction to the break in...he says twice that his reason for being concerned about the matter is not that he is concerned about what the records may reveal about himself...but rather etc. One denial is ok. Two denials in short order is of a piece with the other anomolies in his record. Especially since it seems Obama's people instigated the break in. Here is a copy of a puported kenyan birth certificate An eBay seller who claims he has a birth certificate of Barack Obama issued in Kenya continues to maintain the document is authentic, despite evidence it is a forgery. Obama’s Kenyan birth certificate alleged in O.C. lawsuit Here are some proof documents that affirm the veracity of the kenyan birth certicates. This article includes maps dating back 100 years that show that Mombassa was a part of the British Protectorate. Here is more historical detail with proof documentsas to changes in the Mombasa's status during the early 1960's This case is now in court. The Obama justice dept filed to have the case dismissed. Their plea was denied. The case is going forward:Federal judge allows Obama eligibility case to go forward Proof Positive : An Introduction
234 posted on 04/04/2010 8:58:54 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer; LucyT; rxsid; JustPiper; butterdezillion

nice


235 posted on 04/04/2010 9:51:30 PM PDT by bitt ("WE THE PEOPLE" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVAhr4hZDJE)
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To: bgill; TheDotte

:-) It is open to interpretation. I have to take into consideration thst Michelle doesn’t hsve much going for her in the intellectual department. She is a product of affirmative action.

I do find it disturbing thst the wife of the presumptive Democrat candidate speaks of another country as his Home Land. Might be a trivial matter to some, but it doesn’t sit well with me.

The bottom line is no matter what area of Obama’s life we examine the conclusion is always the same: He is a fraud. everything is a lie.

Remember this one?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1992602/posts

Posted on Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:36:25 PM by TheDotte

A year ago, Barack Obama addressed a group in Selma, AL commemorating the 1965 voting rights march. He credited the event with giving his parents the idea that they could have a child. The result was him—Barack Obama, Child of Destiny. The only problem is he was born in 1961.

“What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation...This young man named Barack Obama...came over to this country. He met this woman...(who) had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided...it might...be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama... So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don’t tell me I don’t have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don’t tell me I’m not coming home to Selma, Alabama.

I’m here because somebody marched.” http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/04/selma_voting_rights_march_comm.php


236 posted on 04/04/2010 10:36:46 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: jetgraphics; STARWISE

And, that’s the only comment jetgraphics has made.


237 posted on 04/04/2010 11:08:22 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Asato Ma Sad Gamaya Tamaso Ma Jyotir Gamaya)
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To: PghBaldy

Definition of “home country”

The country in which a person was born and usually raised, regardless of the present country of residence and citizenship

http://www.allwords.com/word-home+country.html


238 posted on 04/05/2010 3:33:40 AM PDT by Beckwith (A "natural born citizen" -- two American citizen parents and born in the USA.)
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To: milford421; DelaWhere; Velveeta; struwwelpeter

Ping.


239 posted on 04/05/2010 4:56:37 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( garden/survival/cooking/storage- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2299939/posts?page=5555)
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To: Beckwith

Fine. I still don’t believe that is what pandering MO was trying to say.


240 posted on 04/05/2010 8:25:40 AM PDT by PghBaldy (Like the Ft Hood Killer, James Earl Ray was just stressed when he killed MLK Jr.)
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