Emile Fradin, peasant-proprietor of the Glozel hoard, died on February 10th, aged 103

The Economist ^ | March 11th 2010 | unattributed

[SunkenCiv]

The finds were hugely intriguing. Visitors to Mr Fradin's museum, admission four francs, would find -- will still find -- masks and carvings of faces without mouths; bones pierced with holes, with the sun's rays scratched round them; ceramic pots, schist rings, polished stones. Some figures were hermaphrodite idols, with phalluses in their foreheads. Several bone carvings showed reindeer running, though reindeer were thought to have died out in that part of France 10,000 years earlier. But most exciting were the dozens of square clay tablets inscribed with letters which, if Neolithic, predated by many millennia the Phoenician characters from which Western alphabets were supposed to have come -- making Glozel, not the Middle East, the cradle of Western civilisation.

[SunkenCiv]

Emile Fradin, peasant-proprietor of the Glozel hoard, died on February 10th, aged 103

[SunkenCiv]

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[SunkenCiv]

Glozel hoard (images)

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[Waverunner]

OMG - The french are responsible for civilization....
That explains lawyers and politicians.

[afraidfortherepublic]

RIP, M. Fradin. Your story is very interesting.

[Bigg Red]

mark

[sueuprising]

What is puzzling is that the hoard seems to be the repository of someone else’s collection or that the field was the site of an earlier dumping ground that had received the refuse of other centuries. I have been reading about this and to accuse a Frenc peasant boy of 17 of counterfeiting authentic looking stone age heiroglyphics is absurd. How would he know? Unless he was in cahoots with the scholarly neighbor there seems no way he would be able to replicate these things. Another thing of interest was that it is possible that carbon 14 testing is not always as reliable as the experts wish us to think. If he was leaked out that this method is not always accurate, then it would cause an uproar amidst the establishment scientific community.

[DUMBGRUNT]

The site Glozel was a disgrace to French archaeology for around 50 years. The academics created a vicious circle of rivalry and accused the amateur finder and the amateur archaeologist for fraud and delayed the topic. Now technical analysis has proven that the artefacts are real. At the same time they have new finds of the same kind from at least five other sites in Middle France.

The site Glozel was a disgrace to French archaeology for around 50 years. The academics created a vicious circle of rivalry and accused the amateur finder and the amateur archaeologist for fraud and delayed the topic. Now technical analysis has proven that the artefacts are real. At the same time they have new finds of the same kind from at least five other sites in Middle France... more...

http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~catshaman/0earlyhis/0script.htm

[GSP.FAN]

It is a very interesting story..The Economist always does a good obituary..

[Kenny Bunk]

Why is this news?

Of course, the late M. Fradin is to be hailed and remembered for his interesting find. But really, he merely confirmed what every Frenchman already knows, and over a pastis on your tab, would only be too happy to tell you unfortunate citizens of a lesser place.

Mes amis, did we not already know that la belle France was the center, nay the cradle, nay the Ground 0, of all civilization on this planet?

[GSP.FAN]

Quelle merde!
Everyone knows Ireland is the cradle of civilization..:)
Slainte..

[Kenny Bunk]

Everyone knows Ireland is the cradle of civilization

The Bushmills Theory ... it is definitely better than most other theories, including Quantum Mechanics and Evolution. And, you can dance to it!

[GSP.FAN]

The Guinness theory..
God invented Guinness so that the Irish would not take over the world..
Slainte..

[Kenny Bunk]

The Guinness theory..
God invented Guinness so that the Irish would not take over the world.

(1)Switch to Smithwick's,
(2) Take over Ulster first.
(3)After that, taking over the rest of the world will follow easily.
(4) Get back to Guiness. It's Good For You.

[GSP.FAN]

Nah we done enough already sticking with a pint of the black stuff..:)........................................................ How The Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role from the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe is a non-fiction historical book written by Thomas Cahill. Cahill argues a case for the Irish people's critical role in preserving Western Civilization from utter destruction by the Huns and the Germanic tribes (Visigoths, Franks, Angles, Saxons, Ostrogoths, etc.). The book retells the story from the collapse of the Roman Empire and the pivotal role played by members of the clergy at the time. A particular focus is placed upon Saint Patrick and retells his early struggles through slavery; basically retelling portions of The Confession of Saint Patrick. Early parts of the book examine Ireland before Patrick and the role of Saint Augustine of Hippo. Particular focus is placed upon Saint Columba and the monks he trained and the monasteries he set up in the Hiberno-Scottish mission. In a sense, these holy men salvaged everything possible from the destruction of the Roman Empire. How the Irish Saved Civilization was first published in March 1995 and appeared on the New York Times Bestseller List for almost two years.

[pabianice]

Clicking on Google link gives us a Bush is a War Criminal page. Wonderful. Who the f%$# would take seriously anything on this post??

[SunkenCiv]

If you mean post #16, then nothing. I have NO IDEA why you posted that link, because I sure the Hell didn’t.

[stefanbatory]

you mean they would have us throw out data that does not fi their theory? That’s absurd! They would never do such a thing!

[fieldmarshaldj]

RIP.

[colorado tanker]

What say we go back to the auberge and let a bottle of wine help us decide just what is really in Glozee?