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Students Recall More Hollywood than History
livescience ^ | 12 August 2009 | Jeremy Hsu

Posted on 08/20/2009 12:30:12 PM PDT by JoeProBono

If you thought Tom Cruise's character in "The Last Samurai" represented a real figure from history, you were wrong. But don't feel ashamed. A new study shows that even students, with facts staring them in the face, tend to substitute Hollywood fiction for historical fact in their minds.

"What we found is that there's something really special about watching a film that lets people retain information from that film, even when they had read a contradictory account in the textbook," said Andrew Butler, a psychology researcher at Washington University in St. Louis during the time he and his colleagues conducted the study.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Education; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: culturewars; godsgravesglyphs; history; historyeducation; hollywood; movies
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To: B-Chan
"Most people who think of Patton think of George C. Scott. I know that I do. From what I’ve read, however, I’m pretty sure that the man himself was quite different."

I've seen/heard "talkie" news reel footage of St. George. His voice was nowhere near as gruff as Scott, nor was his demeanor anywhere near as dour. Actually, I thought he sounded kind of like Tony Snow did when he would loosen up as Rush's guest.

21 posted on 08/20/2009 1:08:07 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SJSAMPLE
"The Cruise character was the biggest fabrication."

Cruise is a pretty big fabrication in real life, too.

22 posted on 08/20/2009 1:09:34 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: SJSAMPLE

Really? The rebellion it was based on was put down by a conscript army rather easily, and at the direction of Emperor Meiji[The Samurai rebelled because: (1) they were to be denied the right to carry the two swords, and: (2) The Army, including the officer corps was to be opened to the middle class]. And Cruise’s character would have gone from helpless drunk, tortured by the demons of indigenous aboriginal genocide; to training officer of the Japanese Army, within a month of the Last Stand. Pretty good, even for Tom.


23 posted on 08/20/2009 1:15:52 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr

1. (And I need to repeat this) IT’S A MOVIE.

2. They took A LOT of liberties to make this movie. It’s inaccuracies are why we’re ripping it apart, but it’s still a good movie.


24 posted on 08/20/2009 1:18:48 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: GeronL

When I was in Fifth grade, back in 1956, I got in a heated argument with my teacher over Blackbeard’s death. She insisted he was buried up to his neck at the low tide mark and drowned by the incoming tide. How’d she know? Saw it in a movie! [And Blackbeard looked just like Robert Newton, and Lt. Maynard bore a striking resemblance to Keith Andes].


25 posted on 08/20/2009 1:20:04 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Aside from the Japanese lead, and a couple of his lieutenants, the acting was atrocious. As Dorothy Parker said about an actress, Tom Cruise has an emotional range from “A” to “B”. Someone should tell him looking constipated and mumbling is not emoting. He would have been great as one of the dead Indians he drank himself into a stupor over. Tony Goldwyn was wasted as the senior advisor, as was the Zaibatsu bad guy. The female lead looked like she decided to play her character as Cruise in drag.

But the scenery and cinematography were good.

By the bye, one of the liberties they took was having Americans there at all. The Japanese Navy was trained by the British. the Japanese Army was trained by the Germans.

26 posted on 08/20/2009 1:30:52 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: JoeProBono
I have to say, this series(Shaka Zulu) opened up an area of history that I hadn't looked at before.

However, for female pulchritude, this put a century of National Geographic Magazines into the shade. /grin

27 posted on 08/20/2009 1:43:57 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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To: PzLdr

I went through all that myself, when deciding wether or not to watch it on cable. I hated “U571” for recasting the Brits role as an American one.

I have to suspend reality in The Great Escape, but it’s still a GREAT MOVIE.

And you forgot Billy Connely as Cruise’s Sergeant Major.


28 posted on 08/20/2009 1:58:46 PM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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29 posted on 08/20/2009 2:06:36 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
Feh. Who says Hollywood never gets it right? This one is durn near a documentary:

Bortai (Susan Hayward): For me, there is no peace while you live, Mongol.
Temujin (John Wayne): Yer beautiful in yer wrath.

30 posted on 08/20/2009 2:14:57 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: SJSAMPLE
It was a really good movie, though.

It was Dances With Wolves in Japanese clothing.

31 posted on 08/20/2009 2:23:56 PM PDT by TChris (There is no freedom without the possibility of failure.)
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To: Billthedrill
"Yonder lies the castle of my fadda."


32 posted on 08/20/2009 2:26:20 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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33 posted on 08/20/2009 5:00:03 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: JoeProBono

I happened to see about a half hour of “King Richard and the Crusaders”, which is on a number of worst-movies lists. It wasn’t that bad, for the most part played tongue in cheek. There are *so many* movies that are really lousy, that just stink, suck, and {fill in the blank} so much that no one puts them on such lists because they don’t want anyone else to know they actually watched them. :’)

“War! War! That’s all you think of, Dick Plantagenet! You burner! You pillager!”

Of course, the Liz Taylor “Cleopatra” (I think Rex Harrison was in both) is right at the boundary between unsatisfactory and awful, but pulls me back in because of the costuming, sets, and (mostly unintentional) humor.


34 posted on 08/20/2009 5:13:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: JoeProBono

There are many Freepers who seem to get their history from John Wayne movies.


35 posted on 08/20/2009 5:18:08 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: JoeProBono

There are many Freepers who seem to get their history from John Wayne movies. That’s as ridiculous as me getting history about John Wayne from “Repo Man.”


36 posted on 08/20/2009 5:18:48 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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37 posted on 08/20/2009 5:22:32 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: SunkenCiv
Yup. Nice sets.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 5:26:49 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: B-Chan

The real Patton had a high-pitched, whiny voice.


39 posted on 08/20/2009 5:26:56 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: JoeProBono

I’ve never thought she was pretty. :’)


40 posted on 08/20/2009 5:53:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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