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Study: Global warming sparked by ancient farming methods
cnn.com ^ | August 18, 2009 | Shelby Lin Erdman

Posted on 08/19/2009 3:13:18 PM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

(CNN) -- Ancient man may have started global warming through massive deforestation and burning that could have permanently altered the Earth's climate, according to a new study by researchers at the University of Virginia and the University of Maryland-Baltimore County. Primitive slash-and-burn agriculture permanently changed Earth's climate, according to a new study.

The study, published in the scientific journal Quaternary Science Reviews and reported on the University of Virginia's Web site, says over thousands of years, farmers burned down so many forests on such a large scale that huge amounts of carbon dioxide were pumped into the atmosphere. That possibly caused the Earth to warm up and forever changed the climate.

Lead study author William Ruddiman is a professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia and a climate scientist.

"It seems like a common-sense idea that there weren't enough people around 5, 6, 7,000 years ago to have any significant impact on climate. But if you allow for the fact that those people, person by person, had something like 10 times as much of an effect or cleared 10 times as much land as people do today on average, that bumps up the effect of those earlier farmers considerably, and it does make them a factor in contributing to the rise of greenhouse gasses," Ruddiman said.

Ruddiman said that starting thousands of years ago, people would burn down a forest, poke a hole in the soil between the stumps, drop seeds in the holes and grow a crop on that land until the nutrients were tapped out of the soil. Then they would move on.

"And they'd burn down another patch of forest and another and another. They might do that five times in a 20-year period," he said.

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To: Reeses

It’s pretty well known that most primitive peoples set fire to the forests on a regular basis, and it wasn’t primarily for agricultural purposes.

The book 1491 shows how Indians in the Americas had been routinely burning the land for over ten thousand years, to the extent that a different ecology had developed. When this routine burning was withdrawn as a result of the 95% die-off in Indian populations during the 16th century caused by the merging of the American and Afro-Eurasian disease ecologies, massive changes occurred to the environment of the Americas.

The “natural wilderness” seen in most areas by the first white explorers had little in common with what had existed for many thousands of years before this die-off.


21 posted on 08/19/2009 5:56:17 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: SuzyQue

Actually, trees (and other plants) take in CO2 and give off oxygen.


22 posted on 08/19/2009 5:57:13 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: SuzyQue

Trees take in CO2 when alive and release CO@ when they are rotting dead.


23 posted on 08/19/2009 6:15:48 PM PDT by ThanhPhero (di tray hoi den La Vang)
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To: Sherman Logan
Be carefull there. You have just stated a human caused event. It may have have nothing to do with global warming but others might not see it that way.

don't you know the Amerindians lived in a pristine paradise unspoiled. SARC

24 posted on 08/19/2009 6:25:39 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: Free ThinkerNY

The American Indian owes everyone living here today restitution for their burning of the land to cause buffalo stampedes for hunting.

They destroyed millions of acres, caused global warming and owe us a ride - now it’s their turn.


25 posted on 08/19/2009 6:30:26 PM PDT by edcoil (If I had 1 cent for every dollar the government saved, Bill Gates and I would be friends.)
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To: ThanhPhero; Sherman Logan

Well, duh. I know that. I should think BEFORE I type.


26 posted on 08/19/2009 6:37:33 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: Sherman Logan; SuzyQue

Actually, they do both.

They ‘exhale’ O^2 during daylight; CO^2 at night. Generally, the younger they are, the greater the disparity between the two processes, though it “always” favors net O^2 production, while alive.

Living trees also contribute huge amounts of methane to the atmosphere; estimates range anywhere from 10% to 30% of annual atmospheric methane emissions.


27 posted on 08/19/2009 7:07:22 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The mob got President Barabbas; America got shafted)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thank you. I was wondering if anyone was going to post the general facts on plant CO2 and O2 production.


28 posted on 08/19/2009 7:40:19 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: ApplegateRanch

You are correct. I was referring to net effects.


29 posted on 08/19/2009 7:48:58 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Satire, right?


30 posted on 08/19/2009 7:50:53 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (CommieCare: Need a Stent, Take a Red Pill. Next!)
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To: nomorelurker

The book I mentioned was specifically written to refute that theory. In the author’s opinion, with which I agree, it degrades American Indians from humans to a species of wildlife that doesn’t impact the “natural environment” because they are part of it, unlike the rest of us who are somehow “non-natural.”


31 posted on 08/19/2009 7:53:14 PM PDT by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Dam* those city dwelling, cuneiform writing, farming Sumerians. /s


32 posted on 08/19/2009 9:26:14 PM PDT by A message (3 years 5 months 1 day until Jim Thompson is President)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; SunkenCiv

The author of that article needs a refresher course in math. I have heard there were 5-6 million people living 5,000 years ago. For them to have as much effect on the environment as today’s population, they would have to practice 1,000 times as much deforestation, not 10 times.


33 posted on 08/20/2009 2:51:37 AM PDT by Berosus (I wish I had as much faith in God as liberals have in government.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Thanks for bringing that up about the American Indians using fire so much. I found this website that suggests a list of reasons: http://www.wildlandfire.com/docs/biblio_indianfire.htm Surprisingly, one of the reasons was weather control, a technology we've forgotten about. I noticed after a hot summer wildfire in Southern California the smoke caused overcast clouds that cooled a huge swath of the LA area. It was about 15 degrees cooler than before the fire. The savings in air conditioning costs might have more than offset any damage costs from the fire.
34 posted on 08/20/2009 3:35:56 AM PDT by Reeses (The fundamental obsession of leftists is size envy.)
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To: KamperKen
More laughable nonsense paid for by we taxpayers.

Yeah. Just who the hell approves and funds these "studies" anyway?
35 posted on 08/20/2009 3:39:01 AM PDT by BikerJoe
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Bullshite begets more bullshite.


36 posted on 08/20/2009 4:06:37 AM PDT by Waco (OK Libs, stop emiting now.4)
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To: ApplegateRanch
since the beginnings of dry land vegetation . . .

. . . which there wouldn't have been any of in the first place without "greenhouse gases" (they call it "the greenhouse effect for a reason, ya know!) . . .

37 posted on 08/20/2009 5:32:09 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Free ThinkerNY

They still use slash and burn farming in Mexico and sometimes there is enough smoke in the atmosphere that it is visible in Texas when the wind is right and carries it north.


38 posted on 08/20/2009 6:10:48 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY; SunkenCiv
Are these people willfully ignorant???

The earth began warming after the last glacial cycle and, later, from the Younger Dryas, thousand of years before the advent of agriculture. Unfriggingbelieveable.

39 posted on 08/20/2009 1:13:48 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Martha's Vineyard is great! Hey, honey, let's take a drive . . . .)
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To: colorado tanker
They just have to find some way to blame it on Humans.

2 or 3 daya ago I read an aritlce, I think it was a Drudge Headline, where it was announced the Richard Lindzer of MIT was about to publish a study which debunks the CO2 myth once and for all. Been searching but can't find it.

40 posted on 08/20/2009 1:20:37 PM PDT by CaptRon
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