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Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
Frugal Dad .com ^ | July 23, 2009 | Frugal Dad

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition Category: Roundups | Comments(15)

Did you hear about the guy that lives on nothing? No seriously, he lives on zero dollars a day. Meet Daniel Suelo, who lives in a cave outside Moab, Utah. Suelo has no mortgage, no car payment, no debt of any kind. He also has no home, no car, no television, and absolutely no “creature comforts.” But he does have a lot of creatures, as in the mice and bugs that scurry about the cave floor he’s called home for the last three years.

To us, Suelo probably sounds a little extreme. Actually, he probably sounds very extreme. After all, I suspect most of you reading this are doing so under the protection of some sort of man-made shelter, and with some amount of money on your person, and probably a few needs for money, too. And who doesn’t need money unless they have completely unplugged from the grid? Still, it’s an amusing story about a guy who rejects all forms of consumerism as we know it.

The Frugal Roundup

How to Brew Your Own Beer and Maybe Save Some Money. A fantastic introduction to home brewing, something I’ve never done myself, but always been interested in trying. (@Generation X Finance)

Contentment: A Great Financial Principle. If I had to name one required emotion for living a frugal lifestyle it would be contentment. Once you are content with your belongings and your lot in life you can ignore forces attempting to separate you from your money. (@Personal Finance by the Book)

Use Energy Star Appliances to Save On Utility Costs. I enjoyed this post because it included actual numbers, and actual total savings, from someone who upgraded to new, energy star appliances. (@The Digerati Life)

Over-Saving for Retirement? Is it possible to “over-save” for retirement? Yes, I think so. At some point I like the idea of putting some money aside in taxable investments outside of retirement funds, to be accessed prior to traditional retirement age. (@The Simple Dollar)

40 Things to Teach My Kids Before They Leave Home. A great list of both practical and philosophical lessons to teach your kids before they reach the age where they know everything. I think that now happens around 13 years-old. (@My Supercharged Life)

Index Fund Investing Overview. If you are looking for a place to invest with high diversification and relatively low fees (for broader index funds with low turnover), index funds are a great place to start. (@Money Smart Life)

5 Reasons To Line Dry Your Laundry. My wife and I may soon be installing a clothesline in our backyard. In many neighborhoods they are frowned upon - one of the reasons I don’t like living in a neighborhood. I digress. One of our neighbors recently put up a clothesline, and we might just follow his lead. (@Simple Mom)

A Few Others I Enjoyed

* 4 Quick Tips for Getting Out of a Rut * Young and Cash Rich * Embracing Simple Style * First Trading Experience With OptionsHouse * The Exponential Power of Delayed Consumption * How Much Emergency Fund is Enough? * 50 Questions that Will Free Your Mind * Save Money On Car Insurance


TOPICS: Food; Gardening; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: emergencypreparation; food; frugal; frugality; garden; gf; gluten; glutenfree; granny; hunger; jm; nwarizonagranny; prep; prepper; preppers; preps; starvation; stinkbait; survival; survivalists; wcgnascarthread
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To: nw_arizona_granny

You can get essential oils from these folks:

http://www.youngliving.com/en_US/index.html

They have a natural hand sanitizer called Thieves, too. It’s good stuff.


9,481 posted on 04/21/2011 9:34:27 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: DelaWhere; jessky; nw_arizona_granny

A goat from a local farm in Buckeye, Arizona. They have pictures on Facebook of all the 2011 kids and their mothers, but I can't figure out how to easily post them here.

What do they do with the little bucks?

9,482 posted on 04/21/2011 9:47:00 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Hi TAC,

Well, you asked for it.....

“What do they do with the little bucks?”

Chevon Meat Chili Recipe (makes about 14 cups)

2 T cooking oil
1 T salt
2 c chopped onions
3 lbs ground goat meat
1 T ground oregano
1/2 c + 2 T chili powder
2 T ground cumin
1/2 c masa flour
1 t garlic powder
8 c boiling water

In heavy pot, saute onions in cooking oil, add oregano, cumin, garlic powder and salt.

Stir and saute until onion is almost clear, then add ground meat and cook and stir until crumbly and almost gray.

Add chili powder and then flour, stirring vigorously until thoroughly blended.

Lastly, add boiling water, bring mixture to a boil, and simmer. Seasonings may be adjusted to individual taste. Pinto Beans are optional.

That’s just for starters.....


9,483 posted on 04/22/2011 11:30:03 AM PDT by DelaWhere (Better to be prepared one year early than one day late!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

yea they are cute as heck
tasty too


9,484 posted on 04/22/2011 4:49:15 PM PDT by jessky
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

yea they are cut as heck
taste good too


9,485 posted on 04/22/2011 4:54:04 PM PDT by jessky
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To: nw_arizona_granny

In case you check in, Granny, Happy Easter to you. Because He lives, we can face tomorrow.

Hugs from all of us...


9,486 posted on 04/22/2011 6:35:43 PM PDT by betsyross60
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To: nw_arizona_granny; All

Garden As If Your Life Depended On It, Because It Will

By Ellen LaConte

Spring has sprung—at least south of the northern tier of states where snow still has a ban on it—and the grass has ‘riz. And so has the price of most foods, which is particularly devastating just now when so many Americans are unemployed, underemployed, retired or retiring, on declining or fixed incomes and are having to choose between paying their mortgages, credit card bills, car payments, and medical and utility bills and eating enough and healthily. Many are eating more fast food, prepared foods, junk food—all of which are also becoming more expensive—or less food.

In some American towns, and not just impoverished backwaters, as many as 30 percent of residents can’t afford to feed themselves and their families sufficiently, let alone nutritiously. Here in the Piedmont Triad of North Carolina where I live it’s 25 percent. Across the country one out of six of the elderly suffers from malnutrition and hunger. And the number of children served one or two of their heartiest, healthiest meals by their schools grows annually as the number of them living at poverty levels tops twenty percent. Thirty-seven million Americans rely on food banks that now routinely sport half-empty shelves and report near-empty bank accounts. And this is a prosperous nation!

In some cases this round of price hikes on everything from cereal and steak to fresh veggies and bread—and even the flour that can usually be bought cheaply to make it— will be temporary. But over the long term the systems that have provided most Americans with a diversity, quantity and quality of foods envied by the rest of the world are not going to be as reliable as they were.

What’s for Supper Down the Road?

As they move through the next few decades Americans can expect

§ the price of conventionally produced food to rise and not come down again,

§ prices to rollercoaster so that budgeting is unpredictable,

§ some foods to become very expensive compared to what we’re used to

§ and others, beginning with some of the multiple versions of the same thing made by the same company to garner a bigger market share and more shelf space, to gradually become unavailable.

Tremors in food supply chains and pricing will make gardening look like a lot more than a hobby, a seasonal workout, a practical way to fill your pantry with your summer favorites, or a physically, spiritually and mentally healing activity, or all four. Gardening and small-scale and collective farming, especially of staple crops and the ones that could stave off malnutrition, could become as important as bringing home the bacon, both the piggy and the dollar kind. Why?

Why’s Gardening So Important Now?

There are at least five reasons why more of us should take up spade, rake and hoe, make compost and raise good soil and garden beds with a vengeance, starting this spring and with an eye toward forever.

1) Peak oil. Most petroleum experts agree that we shot past peak oil in the US around 1971. Lest you’ve missed the raging ( http://www.postcarbon.org ), that’s the point at which more than half the readily, affordably retrievable oil in reserves has been used up, what remains is more expensive to retrieve, and the dregs are irretrievable. We’ve shot or are about to shoot past peak worldwide, estimates of when ranging from 2007 to 2013, with many oil company execs agreeing to at least the latter. There are no new cheap-easy oil fields coming on line. Any new fields you hear about or new methods, like tar sands drilling are expensive, water guzzling, dangerous, environmentally disastrous and unlikely to produce more than a few years worth of oil, and that a decade or more down the line. That means abundant, cheap oil is about to be history. What difference does that make?

For one thing, there is no replacement for oil that can do all that oil has done as cheaply and universally as oil has done it. I offer an exercise in Life Rules, “The ABC’s of Peak Oil” which helps readers imaginatively subtract from their lives everything that depends in one way or another on cheap easy oil. It doesn’t leave much. (See Beth Terry’s website ( http://myplasticfreelife.com/plasticfreeguide/ ), for example, for what subtracting plastics may entail.)

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The global economy that presently supplies us with our food, runs on cheap oil and lots of it. It runs slower and less predictably on expensive oil that’s hard to get because it’s located in hard-to-reach or high-risk conflict-ridden zones. Cheap, abundant food on the shelves of grocery and big box stores and food banks, on our tables and in our bellies depends on cheap abundant oil for fertilizers, pesticides, and herbicides, and to power farm machinery and transport food from fields to processors and packagers and then to purveyors and consumers, around the world. Past peak, that system’s going to have the half-life of the strontium 90 that’s escaping the Fukushimi Dai-ichi reactor: 29 years, or there abouts. One good global crisis, and not that long.

2) Peak soil & space: A couple of links between peak oil and peak soil: First, it matters that one of the proposed alternatives to oil is biofuels. Acreage around the world is being converted from production of corn, wheat and soy for human and animal consumption—i.e., food—to production of ethanol and biofuels to put in trucks and cars and . . . Which makes remaining corn, et al, more expensive. Some energeconomy geniuses are proposing that Afghanis, for example, convert the fields of opium poppies that are their primary agricultural export, not to growing grains or legumes or other staple foods, but to biofuel ( http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/03/putting-poppies-in-the-gas-tank/8379/ ), which would, not coincidentally, make the gasoline that goes in American military equipment much cheaper and provide Afghanis with a profitable market item rather than food.

According to a 2009 National Geographic staff report, ( http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/06/cheap-food/bourne-text ), “The corn used to make a 25-gallon tank of ethanol would feed one person for a year.” Tell that to Archer-Daniels-Midland, Al Gore’s deep-pockets friend and mega-ethanol and corn products producer.

Second, the huge oil-gluttonous machinery that has made factory farming possible has compacted soils, literally crushing the life out of them.

Arable land in the developing or so-called Third World has been at a premium since time immemorial, thanks to geographic location and/or persistent plundering by empires old and new. Revolutions in north Africa and the Middle East are occurring not just to obtain more democratic governments but also to obtain more food and more affordable food. Revolutionaries are barking up a tree that’s seen better days.

In the United States and elsewhere in the developed, read “First” world, arable land has reached peak production. All those petroleum-based products that fueled the Green Revolution of the last century, also produce so many crops, constantly, with support from toxic chemicals and without concern for the microbes that make soil a live, self-regenerating system, that most American farmland—if its farmers didn’t go organic a while back—is comprised of dead soils. Peak oil makes a repeat of the petroleum-driven 20 th century Green Revolution impossible ( http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/06/cheap-food/green-revolution-illustration ), which is good for soil and other living things, not so much for food prices and supplies.

After peak, in soil like in oil, comes descent. Adding insult to injury, every year farmers lose thousands of acres of arable land to urban and suburban sprawl and more tons of topsoil than they produce of grain and other field crops to attrition. Half the Earth’s original trove of topsoil, like that which once permitted the American Midwest to feed the world, has been lost to wind and erosion. Millions of years in the making, it has been depleted and degraded by industrialized agriculture in only a couple of centuries. China’s soils ride easterly winds across the Pacific to settle out on cars and rooftops in California while the American Bread Basket’s soils are building deltas and dead zones at the mouth of the Mississippi. Like oil, that soil isn’t coming back. We can only build it, help it to build itself and wait.

3) Monoculture : We can cut to the chase on this one. The food we eat is produced on industrial-strength, fossil-fuel-driven super farms. Those farms practice monoculture: the planting one crop, often of one genetic strain of that crop, at a time and sometimes year after year over vast landscapes of plowed field. When thousands of acres of farmland are sown with the same genetic strain of grain, uncongenial bout of weather, disease or pest to which that strain is susceptible can wipe out the whole crop. At present the Ug99 fungus, called stem rust, which emerged a decade ago in Africa, could wipe out more than 80% of the world’s wheat crops as it spreads, according to a 2009 article in the L. A. Times ( http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/14/science/sci-wheat-rust14 ). Recent studies follow its appearance in other countries downwind of eastern Africa where it originated, including Yemen and Iran (where revolutionaries are already protesting rising prices and shortages), which opens the possibility of its emergence further downwind in Central and Eastern Asia. The race is on to breed resistant plants before it reaches Canada or the U.S. But it can take a decade or more to create a universally adaptable new genetic line that is resistant to a new disease like stem rust that can travel much faster than that. The current spike in the price of wheat is due in part to Ug99 which might properly be renamed “Ugh.”

4) Climate instability. Bad — uncongenial — weather has lately devastated crops in the upper Midwest, Florida, Mexico, Russia, China, Australia, parts of Africa and elsewhere. Many climate scientists believe we’ve passed the equivalent of peak friendly and familiar weather, too. And while increasing heat will bedevil harvests ( http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2009/06/cheap-food/stanmeyer-photography ), intense cold, downpours and flooding, drought and destructive storm systems will make farming an increasingly hellish occupation if profit is what’s being farmed for. The transitional climate will be unpredictable from season and will produce more extremes of weather and weather-related disasters which means farmers will not be able to assume much about growing seasons, rainfall patterns and getting crops through to harvest. If the past is precedent, the transition from the climate we’ve been used to for 10,000 years to whatever stable climate emerges out of climate chaos next, could take decades, centuries or even millennia. Especially if we keep messing with it. When a whole nation’s or region’s staple crops, especially grains, are lost or on-again-off-again, everything down the line from the crops themselves become more expensive, from meat, poultry and dairy to every kind of processed food. I.e., the food we shop for as if supermarkets were actually where food comes from.

5) The roller-coaster economy . This isn’t the place for me to offer my explanation for the probability of global economic collapse. (See ( www.ellenlaconte.com/excerpts-from-life-rules/#chpfour ) for that.) No pundits, talking-heads or economic analysts (well, very few) deny there are rough economic times ahead. Even many of the cautious among them acknowledge that we may be looking at five or six years of high unemployment and many of the lost jobs won’t be coming back. The less cautious, like me, predict the collapse of the whole fossil-fueled, funny-money, inequitable, overly-complicated global economic system in the lifetimes of anyone under 50. Well, at the rate we’re going in all the wrong directions politically and economically, I hazard the guess, anyone under 80.

Clearly, depending on the present system to provide us with most or all of our food reliably or long-term, is unwise in the extreme. Which is how we get back to why we need to garden as if our lives depended on it. Bringing food production processes and systems closer to home is going to prove vital to our survival. We need to take producing our own and each other’s food as seriously as we’ve taken producing a money income because growing numbers of us won’t have enough money to buy food in the conventional ways and there will be less of it to buy. So what’s our recourse?

Gardening Like Everybody’s Business

Under the influence and auspices of the prevailing economy, most Americans have forgotten how to provide for themselves. We’ve become accustomed to earning money with which we buy provisions. That process is about the have the legs kicked out from under it. Instead of earning money (or its funny-money kin like credit cards) to buy the things we need, we’ll need to start providing more of those things for ourselves and each other locally and (bio)regionally. Gardening — and small-scale farming — while they will need to be undertaken in a businesslike fashion will be less about doing business than about everyone’s having something to eat and more people being busy providing it. And while not everyone will be able to garden or farm, we are all able to get up close and personal with those who do.

In a subsequent column I’ll review five variations on the theme of gardening to counterbalance the five reasons I think we need to.

§ Back-yard, back-porch, back-40 gardening

§ Community gardens

§ Community Supported Agriculture

§ Urban gardening

§ Taking the ‘

Ellen LaConte, an independent scholar, organic gardener, freelance writer, speaker and editor, living in the Yadkin River watershed of the Piedmont bioregion of North Carolina, is a contributing editor to Green Horizon Magazine and The Ecozoic and Advisory Board member at the EarthWalk Alliance. She was assistant to the late homesteader and bestselling Living the Good Life author, Helen Nearing, and as Nearing’s executor helped found The Good Life Center at Forest Farm in Harborside, Maine. Her memoir of Nearing, On Light Alone was published in South Korea as well as the US. Her most recent book is the controversial Life Rules: Why so much is going wrong everywhere at once & how Life teaches us to fix it (Green Horizon/iUniverse, 2010) can be examined at www.liferules-thebook.info . LaConte publishes a quarterly online newsletter, Starting Point, and can be reached at ( www.ellenlaconte.com ).

Original at: http://pecangroup.org/?p=1503


9,487 posted on 04/23/2011 10:29:40 AM PDT by DelaWhere (Better to be prepared one year early than one day late!)
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To: jessky; CottonBall; nw_arizona_granny; All
There is a local site that I would recommend for everyone as a resource. If you would like information (as pdf files) on survival topics, changed almost daily, (the ones listed below are just till tomorrow 5/23/11) check out the downloads section of http://survival-training.info/

 Poultry - If you'd like to get started with chickens, here are the basics - Kepple

  Poultry - Start your own chicken flock - Charles A. Sanders

  Rabbits - Raising rabbits for meat and making money it's hard to beat this creature on the homestead - Thibodeau

  Rabbits - Waising wascally wabbits for din-dins - Don Fallick
  Swine - Consider small-scale hog production for delicious food and reliable income - Hooker
 Food Preservation - Slaughtering and butchering - Dynah Geissal

Oh, and if you want some other reading say George Orwell's 1984 - Yep, it's there too. I have saved quite a few very good books from his listings... Saved a bundle instead of buying the books (and it is free too!)

Check it out, I think you will like it. (remember changes daily!)

9,488 posted on 04/23/2011 1:24:58 PM PDT by DelaWhere (Better to be prepared one year early than one day late!)
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To: DelaWhere
it seems things are getting bad and are going to get alot worse
9,489 posted on 04/23/2011 2:29:00 PM PDT by jessky
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To: nw_arizona_granny

We’ll bake our potatoes on the hot ash of a fire pit. Start a nice campfire, and once you get a nice bed of hot glowing ash going, throw your foil-wrapped potatoes on them and turn them occasionally.


9,490 posted on 04/24/2011 12:05:42 AM PDT by Ladysmith ("There is no right that allows one person to place a burden on another." - Quinn)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion; nw_arizona_granny; CottonBall; DelaWhere; Quix; metmom; LibertyRocks; ...

All of you all, hope your wkd. was lovely. Thread’s within 500 plus change of hitting the big ten thousand, wow.

I am posting despite a migraine or some such, to say “howdy” to you hardy ones that do not have your heads buried in the sand.

As I rested earlier today I wondered where planet earth will be a year from now, the next time “Resurrection Day” is celebrated.

I guess this headache/queasy tummy is tending me toward maudlin.

FYI, here’s a thread might be of interest, to which I was pinged today:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2709980/posts

Love, Joya

(p.s. 10AChamp, nice to see you on this thread, I have missed you & I surely hope you are well.)


9,491 posted on 04/24/2011 9:43:24 PM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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‘Midwest Eats’ program to re-create Depression food(Booyah)
Chicago Sun Times ^ | April 20,2011

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2709980/posts


9,492 posted on 04/24/2011 9:45:59 PM PDT by Joya (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house ...)
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To: Joya

THX


9,493 posted on 04/24/2011 9:57:50 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

U

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Welcome


9,494 posted on 04/24/2011 10:02:47 PM PDT by Joya (Everything is ruined. Jesus is coming back. Something to look forward to, it is more than enough.)
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To: Joya

Hello Joya and all, I am fine - just busy!!

More DOOM!

China Proposes To Cut Two Thirds Of Its $3 Trillion In USD Holdings
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2709808/posts


9,495 posted on 04/24/2011 10:19:43 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Love your tagline.

REF:

‘(Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)’


9,496 posted on 04/25/2011 1:08:23 AM PDT by Joya (Everything is ruined. Jesus is coming back. Something to look forward to, it is more than enough.)
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To: DelaWhere

Ok, I wanted to get to the articles you listed.

How do I do that on that site?


9,497 posted on 04/25/2011 1:44:29 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: CottonBall

I’m sorry, it is the eBookDownload button down the left side, or you can click on the link below...

http://survival-training.info/ebookdownload.htm

I don’t know where he finds them all, but there is usually something there I find interesting. If you want it, grab it, because tomorrow it will be gone and something else will be up there. Sure keeps you coming back...


9,498 posted on 04/25/2011 3:15:30 PM PDT by DelaWhere (Better to be prepared one year early than one day late!)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Hmmmm, wonder what the Fed will be saying Wednesday? (I don’t EVER remember them holding a press conference before...)


9,499 posted on 04/25/2011 3:18:28 PM PDT by DelaWhere (Better to be prepared one year early than one day late!)
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To: Joya; DelaWhere; nw_arizona_granny

Thank you Joya, and thanks for the welcome. I’m glad to be back.


9,500 posted on 04/25/2011 8:51:56 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Darwinism is to Genesis as Global Warming is to Revelations.)
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