Lost World Shropshire? Mammoths In England Found To Be Most Recent Yet

Scientific Blogging ^ | June 17th 2009 | News Staff

[decimon]

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"Mammoths are conventionally believed to have become extinct in North Western Europe about 21,000 years ago during the main ice advance, known as the 'Last Glacial Maximum'" said Lister. "Our new radiocarbon dating of the Condover mammoths changes that, by showing that mammoths returned to Britain and survived until around 14,000 years ago."

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[decimon]

This is kinda, almost post-pre-historical.

[decimon]

Wooly Bully ping.

[chuck_the_tv_out]

They’ll figure out that they’re about 4400 years old, once the dating methods are actually accurate.

[decimon]

They’ll figure out that they’re about 4400 years old, once the dating methods are actually accurate.

How do you know?

[Vaquero]

How do you know?

Why....the bible is his science textbook. flat earth, geocentric, Luddites need to believe the earth is only 6000 or so years old. Of course advances in medicine that discover and kill the microbes, that are giving them relief from their colds, rashes, etc. are exempt from their scrutiny.

[demshateGod]

Post 5 = Talking points that get pulled out and debunked on all of these threads.

[agere_contra]

The ages of some of the remains of mammoths on Wrangel Island (an island in the Arctic Ocean) fall in the range 3730 BC to 7390 BC.

[agere_contra]

Sorry, did I say BC? I meant BP, so 2009 years later :0)

This means there is radiocarbon dating evidence of Mammoths on Wrangel Island as little as 4000 years ago. The Shropshire Mammoths are hardly the most recent remains.

[Vaquero]

Post #6 = talking points by peope who cant accept that God wants them to learn about his entire creation and not be bound by superstitions.

"Methodical research in all branches of knowledge, provided it is carried out in a truly scientific manner and does not override moral laws, can never conflict with the faith, because the things of the world and the things the of the faith derive from the same God. The humble and persevering investigator of the secrets of nature is being led, as it were, by the hand of God in spite of himself, for it is God, the conserver of all things, who made them what they are" (CCC 159). The Catholic Church has no fear of science or scientific discovery.

[Tainan]

I did a quick ixQuick on that. Thats some interesting stuff. Holocene dwarf mammoths isolated there from the Siberian peninsula.

Abstracts: Holocene dwarf mammoths from Wrangel Island in the Siberian ** However, radiocarbon-dating of mammoth fossils gathered from Wrangel Island in the Siberian Arctic shows that a subpopulation of wooly mammoths survived up to 7,000-4,000 years ago.
www.faqs.org/ abstracts/ Zoology-and-wildlife-conservation/ Holocene-dwarf-mammoths-from-Wrangel-Island-in-the-Siberian-Arctic.ht ml

"It is generally agreed that the wooly mammoth became extinct about 10,000-12,000 years ago. However, radiocarbon-dating of mammoth fossils gathered from Wrangel Island in the Siberian Arctic shows that a subpopulation of wooly mammoths survived up to 7,000-4,000 years ago. Analysis of teeth fossils showed that this subpopulation consisted of normal-sized mammoths and a dwarfed form. The dwarfed form may be the result of insular dwarfing, when Wrengel Island separated from the mainland about 12,000 years ago."

[decimon]

The Shropshire Mammoths are hardly the most recent remains.

Yeah, this seems limited to known remains in Europe.

[Vaquero]

I believe the article was talking about the mammoths of North Western Europe and not about Wrangel island or the world in general.

[JoeProBono]

[agere_contra]

I admit it, I didn't read the article! Please don't tell anyone!

[decimon]

That’s a tusky sucka.

[decimon]

agere_contra didn't read the article!

[agere_contra]

(blushing with shame) This is why Huffington Post gets all the hits. Its people like me lousing up the all-important Mammoth-dating threads :0(

[decimon]

(blushing with shame) This is why Huffington Post gets all the hits. Its people like me lousing up the all-important Mammoth-dating threads :0(

Doesn't Huffington Post concentrate on contemporary mammoth louses?

[Grizzled Bear]

"Mammoths are conventionally believed to have become extinct in North Western Europe about 21,000 years ago...

It was the "Shropshire Slasher!"

***Ducks and Runs***

[agere_contra]

LOL!

No, they became extinct because of the lack of Mammoth-dating agencies.