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Mom, Boy Who Fled Cancer Treatment Found
cbsnews ^ | May 25, 2009

Posted on 05/25/2009 3:39:41 PM PDT by JoeProBono

A woman and her 13-year-old son who were on the run from court-ordered cancer treatment for the boy have returned to Minnesota, the Brown County Sheriff's Office said Monday.

"Daniel Hauser and his mother have been returned to Minnesota," according to a news release. It did not reveal any additional details, but said there would be a news conference Monday evening.

The FBI's affidavit in support of an arrest warrant for Colleen alleges she fled the state Tuesday to avoid being prosecuted on two state counts of depriving another of custodial or parental rights in Brown County.

The FBI said the pair flew from Minnesota to Los Angeles last Tuesday on Sun Country Airlines. Investigators suspected they might have headed to one of a number of alternative cancer clinics in northern Mexico.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: cancer; minnesota
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To: Sherman Logan

The issue here is whether the state trumps parent rights and responsibiliites. Stop moving the question.
Nope. The issue is when the state trumps parental rights. Almost everyone agrees that the state must “rescue” the child (or other family member) under some circumstances, so the only issue is where to draw the line. This is not an either/or binary problem.

For instance, I assume you would be opposed to forced clitorectomy of young Muslim girls. If parental control is absolute, it’s nobody else’s business.

You still moved the question.

I am not sure that the state’s involvement has been a good thing for families.

It really doesnt matter to me what Muslims to their daughters. I know it sounds cold. But Jews cut off their son’s forskins, Muslims do too now that I think of it. Parents inflict their culture and their beliefs on their children

I do not, however, think that it is a state issue.


301 posted on 05/26/2009 8:31:38 AM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Chickensoup

You’re at least consistent. But I think most Americans are unwilling to give that much power to parents over their children.

Female genital mutilation, BTW, is not, or anyway is not always, comparable to circumcision of males. Some versions are a lot more analogous to castration.


302 posted on 05/26/2009 8:35:12 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: Chickensoup

OK, let’s move it a little farther.

In ancient Carthage, parents offered their children as sacrifices when the city was in peril.

Do you have any objection to that, or should parental rights allow for human sacrifice?

If human sacrifice of children should be prohibited by the state, you’re not in favor o an absolute limitation on state power over families. You’re just wanting to draw the line where the state intervenes at a different location.


303 posted on 05/26/2009 8:41:39 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: Caramelgal

The BS is entirely yours.

Type II diabetes has been successfully eradicated through control of biofilm bacteria for many years.

You paid deceivers here need to at least get up to speed on reality.


304 posted on 05/26/2009 9:21:12 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: freedumb2003

Cut the comic relief.

This is a serious thread that leaves no room for a doofus like you. Grow up and get a life.


305 posted on 05/26/2009 9:27:30 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Sherman Logan

OK, let’s move it a little farther.

In ancient Carthage, parents offered their children as sacrifices when the city was in peril.

Do you have any objection to that, or should parental rights allow for human sacrifice?

Bit of a drama queen here...human sacrifice versus not treating a sick child in traditional manner.

I never said any child should be killed. Withholding or choosing different modes of therapy is not killing.


306 posted on 05/26/2009 9:32:16 AM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Teacher317

Merk


307 posted on 05/26/2009 9:37:05 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Sherman Logan

Female genital mutilation, BTW, is not, or anyway is not always, comparable to circumcision of males. Some versions are a lot more analogous to castration.

I understood this. It is certainly not something I would do for my child, however I dont think this is a State issue.


308 posted on 05/26/2009 9:47:18 AM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Chickensoup

You don’t seem to understand the concept I’m trying to get across.

You’re opposed to all state intervention overriding parental rights, except when you aren’t.

There is a spectrum, running from the state prohibiting spanking or parents smoking around the kid, to the state prohibiting murder.

Unless you agree to allow murder, you believe in state intervention at some point on that spectrum. IOW, as I stated several posts ago, the question is not whether you disapprove of state intervention, it’s one of where you draw the line.


309 posted on 05/26/2009 9:50:36 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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To: Sherman Logan

Unless you agree to allow murder, you believe in state intervention at some point on that spectrum. IOW, as I stated several posts ago, the question is not whether you disapprove of state intervention, it’s one of where you draw the line.

That is your castle in the sky. I do not believe in state intervention for medical care of minors. If you read upthread, you will find that I believe in hanging parents who kill their children.


310 posted on 05/26/2009 9:57:26 AM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: Chickensoup
Regarding female mutilation I understood this. It is certainly not something I would do for my child, however I dont think this is a State issue.

That's really the crux isn't it? We're at a fundamental disagreement. You don't think it's a state, and I absolutely believe that the prevention of a crime this heinous is absolutely a state issue. We shall never agree.

311 posted on 05/26/2009 12:55:53 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Melas

That’s really the crux isn’t it? We’re at a fundamental disagreement. You don’t think it’s a state, and I absolutely believe that the prevention of a crime this heinous is absolutely a state issue. We shall never agree.

Probably right.


312 posted on 05/26/2009 1:38:01 PM PDT by Chickensoup ("Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it.")
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To: JoeProBono

The Daniel Hauser family surrendered to law enforcement officials today. Watch NaturalNews for updates on this breaking news situation...

In the mean time, Daniel Hauser isn’t the only teen who had to flee the law in order to save his own life from aggressive chemotherapy docotrs: Another young man named Billy Best also had to flee authorities fifteen years ago! And guess what? Today he’s alive and thriving, living on superfoods, herbs and natural remedies! (So much for the myth that if they don’t take chemo, they’ll die, huh?)

Read that astounding story here:
http://www.naturalnews.com/026329.html

(Contains a link to a video featuring Billy Best...)


313 posted on 05/26/2009 7:28:53 PM PDT by Scythian
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To: Scythian

Thnx!


314 posted on 05/26/2009 7:44:48 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: editor-surveyor
Type II diabetes has been successfully eradicated through control of biofilm bacteria for many years.

Would you care to site a source for the above claim?

I think you are confusing things here. People with Diabetes, both Type I and II are prone to bacterial infection and have difficulty with wound healing because of the effect of nerve damage and circulatory problems that are a side effect of Diabetes not the cause.

http://forecast.diabetes.org/magazine/ada-research-profile/biofilm%E2%80%99s-nemesis

For people with diabetes, biofilms can be especially dangerous. “One of the reasons [diabetic] wounds are so hard to heal is that the diabetic wound environment contributes to the formation of biofilms,” Rumbaugh says. Specifically, the circulation problems and nerve damage that can occur with diabetes make wounds particularly prone to infection and can foster biofilms.,

A diabetic who has a wound that becomes infected with biofilm bacteria needs immediate treatment because otherwise those wounds can necrotize and amputation or death can result. But the successful treatment of the infection does not cure the Diabetes. The underlying disease still remains.

You paid deceivers here need to at least get up to speed on reality.

I’d like to know who is paying me because they are doing a lousy job. Maybe they just don’t know where to send the check. (sarasm)
315 posted on 05/27/2009 5:47:31 AM PDT by Caramelgal (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: Scythian
Billy Best received chemo and radiation therapy, his cancer was near remission when he refused additional treatment.

Claims that he cured his cancer with diet and natural medicine are completely spurious.

316 posted on 05/27/2009 7:28:30 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Always be prepared to make that difference.)
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To: Caramelgal

I’m not talking about “wounds.”

The proximate cause of insulin insensitivity at the cellular level is a severe endocrine malfunction brought on by the cessation of production of a number of hormones, due to the biofilm damage to various glands.

Diabetics are getting cured every day through attacking the biofilms with natural agents, such as alicin. Alicin is vastly more effective in killing bacteria than any antibiotic because it can be used continually in fairly high doses without destroying the digestive process as antibiotics do.


317 posted on 05/27/2009 11:52:20 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: editor-surveyor
I’m not talking about “wounds.”

The proximate cause of insulin insensitivity at the cellular level is a severe endocrine malfunction brought on by the cessation of production of a number of hormones, due to the biofilm damage to various glands.

Diabetics are getting cured every day through attacking the biofilms with natural agents, such as alicin. Alicin is vastly more effective in killing bacteria than any antibiotic because it can be used continually in fairly high doses without destroying the digestive process as antibiotics do.


Again with the Garlic – are you sure your not mixing up Diabetes with Vampirism?

I asked you for a source to back up these claims. Do you have one or not? – Aside of course from the various voices in your head.
318 posted on 05/27/2009 12:16:29 PM PDT by Caramelgal (When the past no longer illuminates the future, the spirit walks in darkness.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Take a hike you wacko loony-tune misquoting hypocrite.

People want real people with real world opinions to respond, not some sort of insane anti-science ignorant Luddite.


319 posted on 05/27/2009 4:10:58 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Caramelgal

Not “garlic,” but the alicin from garlic.

Its a process that feeds the alicin to lactobacillis which results in a stable form of alicin, unlike from just fresh garlic, which oxidizes too quickly to store.


320 posted on 05/27/2009 5:10:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bummer administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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