I like this one better:
Posted on 03/22/2009 9:32:50 PM PDT by Swordmaker
Microsoft's Internet Explorer 8 has now been available, downloaded, installed and tested around the world and, so far, the reviews have been OK if not mixed. But a mini-storm could be brewing on the horizon. When IE 8 dropped on Thursday, many in the development community rushed to download it, install it and try it out on the Acid 3 Test, developed by The Web Standards Project. All over the world, the score was turning up the same for almost everyone. Out of a possible score of 100, IE 8 rang up 20. It failed the test and failed it badly.
What's the early reaction to IE8's performance on Acid3? Well, on Twitter, there's this:
Ugh! Activating that ActiveX control did nothing. IE8 is still 20/100 on Acid3. What a waste.
Or this:
Acid3 test FAIL in Internet Explorer 8. Actually crashed the browser.
Or this:
I did the acid3 test on my wife's phone with 2.2 and got 74/100.
Or this:
So IE8 scores 20/100 on the Acid3 test. The next 8 years should be fun trying to work around the usual IE incompatibilities... :/
Is this all just a bunch of developer psychodrama?
Consider this: Developers cast a vote every day for the technology that will ultimately win out in the marketplace - - the technology that can more than most help them to be successful. Standards help them to be successful. And while IE 8 is scoring 20 out of 100 on the Acid 3 standards test, a company down the coast, in Cupertino, Calif., did just a tad better. Apple's Safari 4 browser scores 100 on Acid 3. They also have a little product called the iPhone that uses Safari, that's enjoying some success.
In and of itself, standards compliance for free software like a browser won't determine the king of the marketplace. But Microsoft is losing market share on the desktop, and its desktop business actually shrunk during its most recent quarter. Right now it could use all the friends it can get. And in a community critical to the technology industry, its longtime rival Apple now has a big advantage.
People still use internet explorer? I thought that went the way of netscape.
Or Firefox or Google Chrome even! (Google though is sooner and sooner becoming part of the Evil Empire).
I had a funny feeling this was a post from you. Acid3 isn’t all it’s cracked up to be as far as determining browser efficiency or performance. Since it is evaluating web standards there is a lot of Javascript testing. If the websites you frequent don’t use javascript there will be a skewed rating. Honestly in real world usage the numbers aren’t that different between IE8 and Safari. Hell the newest Safari 3.3.3 or whatever the Windows version is, talk about bloatware. The package is like 104MBs!!!! I though IE8.0 was bloatware and that is at something svelt in comparison at less than 20MB. Worse yet is Apple is slick with the try to trick you into installing iTunes or the Iupdater BS.
It's faster enough that I rarely use the others anymore.
I read recently somewhere that Netscape became Firefox.
Don't know the whole story, but the guy who developed Netscape was interviewed by Charlie Rose recently, and I think he told part of the story in that interview.
Wait until he starts praising Safari over how secure it is, but then fail to mention the hackers convention where they hacked it fairly quickly.
I saw an original of that where the kitten was wrapped around the other breast, like the Firefox logo.
Unless there were -two- kitties on -two- t*tties...
Netscape became SeaMonkey, also from Mozilla.
Firefox was a re-write, based on the design of Netscape.
Strawman. Acid3 is NOT a test of browser efficiency or performance... it is a test of how well it renders a page designed to international HTML code standards.
Acid3 is a test page from the Web Standards Project that checks how well a web browser follows certain web standards, especially relating to the Document Object Model and JavaScript.When successful, the Acid3 test displays a gradually increasing percentage counter with colored rectangles in the background. The percentage displayed is based on the number of sub-tests passed. It is not representing an actual percentage of conformance as the test does not keep track of how many of the tests were actually started (100 is assumed). In addition to these the browser also has to render the page exactly like the reference page is rendered in the same browser. Like the text of the Acid2 test, the text of the reference rendering is not a bitmap, in order to allow for certain differences in font rendering.
Acid3 was in development from April 2007,[1] and released on 3 March 2008.[2] The main developer was Ian Hickson, who also wrote the Acid2 test. Acid2 focused primarily on Cascading Style Sheets, but this third Acid test focuses also on technologies used on modern, highly interactive websites characteristic of Web 2.0, such as ECMAScript and DOM Level 2. A few tests also concern Scalable Vector Graphics (SVG), XML and data: URIs. It includes several elements from W3C CSS3 working drafts that have not made it to candidate recommendations yet.
Internet Explorer 8 scored only 20 out of 100.
All the browsers were hacked, within minutes. You can stop trolling now.
Read about how the hacks were done, and you'll learn that speed of EXECUTION of the hack has nothing to do with the MONTHS of research that went into BUILDING the hack.
The fact that hacks run quickly when executed means nothing. This is true of ALL the hacks done on ALL the browsers, BTW. I'm not defending Safari, I'm trashing how these bogus contests are done.
Of course browsers have vulnerabilities. Why act surprised???
Silliest of all, it was a human-engineering hack -- it hacked the PRESUMED-CLUELESS OPERATOR, not the browser, not the OS. That contest, and all like them, are meaningless with regard to the security of the browser, or the OS. They serve no useful purpose, other than to generate trashy, sensationalist headlines.
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Why would I not mention the CanSecWest? I posted the story on FR three days ago.
I might mention that Charlie Miller said he had been working on that flaw in Safari for over a year.
How come you aren't mentioning that Internet Explorer 8 fell just a couple of minutes later?
Strawman is right. In my eyes acid3 is meaningless. You heard correctly, I said meaningless. Web 2.0 and all that is bells and whistles and meaningless window dressing that maybe matters to HTML/XML and CSS and Java graphic designer geeks. Who cares if a browser can do that . I am more concerned with REAL WORLD performance. Again acid3 means nothing in regard to REAL performance.
Now, now, not nice to taunt the troll.... ;-)
I’m not a troll, but let me guess you’re an Apple groupie?
It's just a test of compliance (standards), not performance (speed). I agree it's meaningless with regard to speed.
But I think you're being silly saying that complex webpage formatting is not of interest to people surfing the web. Are you stuck in the mid-90's or something?
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